I really don't think you slimboli warrant any more of MY time, but I will post one thing to you...you are the one who is predictable. Maybe transparent is a better word.



I can come and go as I please and at the ire of you pleases me to no end, you ruthless SOB.

Oh gosh Wally, I'm starting to feel all warm and fuzzy here. Geez 'chick, grow up!!!

E-chick, you should stick to the picture post forum. You are a fine looking woman, but your whining tendencies are annoying.

Ya SURE this isn't Crimmins?

whatthehellisgoingon?

E-Chick

any flowers yet?

E-Chick ... I'm not angry. I have no reason to be angry.

Annoyed with you? Yes ... you are a 'flake' ... you don't know what you want.

I hold people accountable for what they say, and you can't be trusted to be true to your word.

Either that, or I was right in the first place ... and you like to be the center of attention with your 'drama queen' act ...

I have no idea what you're talking about (again)...If you cannot give SPECIFICS as to this problem you're experiencing (like I asked in my first post) then please give it a rest...These constant attempts to be the center of every single conversation wears thin...This site isn't Oprah...You claim theres a double standard but yu don't tell us anything else to specify what your problems are...What's with your constant need to use sexual innuendos and flirting in every thread?....Slim is absolutely correct...Marla, I have no problem with you personally, but posting rambling BS doesn't help your credibility much...If Bikenic says your a great person, I'm absolutely sure you are, but try to think about what you're posting (content) BEFORE clicking on the "post message" button

Rereading you last post, I gotta ask...Seriously...Are you on meds for some type of problem?..There's a definite aroma of paranoia there..My brother suffers from a similar condition and does take meds to control it and your post is very similar to his past rantings

I don't have any trouble understanding what e-Chick's saying ... I'll admit, I've only been around for about a year, so there may well be some issues from before that which I'm unaware of, but I gotta agree with a lot of what she's saying right now ...

There's plenty of examples of so-called 'thread-jacking' that go on here every day and no end of 'innuendo' as well that come from a LOT of different people here, not just her ... but she's been singled out and, in my judgement, unfairly targeted for criticism ...

In an exchange of personal e-mail yesterday with another of the regular posters here, I commented on the recent outbreak of open hostility on the board ... he responded "I don't like all the hostility ... it isn't my style. I just want to have a good time" ... I couldn't agree more.

No one here enjoys their cigars more than I do ... no one here is more interested in learning more about them, about their care, about their storage, proper lighting, etc ... none of you takes more enjoyment in a good quality lighter, a sharp cutter that works as it should, a convenient carry pouch or any other accessory ... I came to this forum because those are areas of genuine interest to me ... I value the accumlated knowledge and wisdom that this group has and I enjoy the interaction among everyone here as much as anyone else does ... WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS!!

I agree completely with the sentiment of my fellow poster here ... "I don't like all the hostility ... it isn't my style. I just want to have a good time" I don't want to see one of our number threaten to punch another, I don't want to see one flame someone he/she happens to disagree with ... there's no one here that I agree 100% with and I am keenly aware that none of you (or anyone else, for that matter), agree with ME 100% ... Rickamaven and I, for example, could not have more disparate political views, but could not be in more complete and absolute agreement when he says that how we treat one another is the most important thing ...

In my post (above), I mentioned being in complete agreement with Rick's sentiment about how we treat one another ... I find I did not quote him accurately and want to correct myself, since his statement is really even more to the point than I had remembered it ...

"If we are kind to each other, life works."

One other point I'd like to make about your 'double standard' claim.

I don't know how others view this situation, but a room full of guys talking and making jokes about about women (locker room talk) is what normal males do. And I've not really seen anyone let that get out of hand (well, most of the time, minus a few posts that have gone down the gutter).

But ... if you brought a woman into that situation, and she tries to be 'one of the guys' with the same type of converstation ... it turns into a whole different animal. All the attention would then be focused on the woman, and it takes on a whole new meaning, hence, she becomes the center of attention.

There is no double stand here ... since this forum is 98% men, and that is what men do when they get together.

You don't see maggiepond chiming in at every opportunity to turn peoples heads, do you? She's earned ... and deserves, everyones respect here. She has been able to fit right in without drawing attention to herself, and her posts have been a joy to read.

On the same token, a bunch of women together doing the same thing, with one male doing what you do here ... wouldn't that annoy you after awhile? Be honest with yourself ...

SteveS --- you seem to have missed the point that myself, and a few others, have been trying to make here.

It not about the 'threadjacking', as everyone here does it from time to time, includiinng myself.

I'll leave it to you to figure it out ... but then, you may not. Don't take this personal, as to each there own, but you seem to be one that that gets a 'kick' out of the 'thrill' it gives you. Nothing wrong with that ... it just gets a little old after so many years ...

SLIM/ROOKIE: Everyone else can quit reading at this point, so do yourself a favor...



Slimboli, opps, my bad, didn't realize this was actually a boys locker room! Thanks for finally pointing it out to me.



I did announce that I was in the (cigarbid) room seeking cigar info and that I wasn't a feminist so you wouldn't need to disrupt your boy's club mentality and watch your words - from the beginning...I know that most men are gentlemen and would anyway, but I truly never meant for any censorship to take place. I say what comes to mind, and unfortunately for some of you, you can't handle it and don't like to have fun with me.



And furthermore, every post of mine as you put it has NOT been a sexual innuendo. Maybe the smoke is too thick around your computer for you to see clearly. I am sick of hearing about it too and want it to stop, but I don't have a problem discussing it.



As far as being a flake is concerned, YOU sir don't know me. You know characters on a BB...which 9 times out of 10 are exaggerations of the REAL people, their thoughts, their inhabitions, their world. Slim, I thought you of all people would be aware of that. Of course we all know that you are the 10th one that wears his heart and soul on his sleeve (I don't mean that in a bad way. You are able to stand up for what is important to you and CB obviously is your baby.), but do you think that most other posters here are completely accurate or that they would do exactly as they post?



I mean by that, just reread some of the playful things that have been said here by some (other than me of course).



For you to call me a flake or otherwise over my real feelings being hurt, wanting to leave this site, and then truly missing some of you and even numerous emails for me to return (some from several lurkers who've said that they've given up and won't post specifically because of you Slim - honest), that I in fact chose to come back...is just plain stupid from you. When will it end from you? You need to be honest with yourself and ask WHY you even care?



I do enjoy your knowledge, but like I've said before not your humor or lack thereof IMO. You may very well be hysterical in person, but I don't read you that way. I don't get you and vice versa. We don't even need to get along. Just play nice. Just because we're bi-polar opposites doesn't mean I'll call you out and intimidate you in this forum. I'm a person that laughs easily and finds humor in the remotest of things. I apologize that you're annoyed by the fact that my sense of humor conflicts with yours and a handful of others. That's life. Maybe that's the difference of a man in his 50's and a woman in her 30's...a generational thing...wait Rookie is not in his 50's. Damn, that blows that theory. Let's just say we are all wired differently. Man, I thought we'd buried that hatchet a LONG time ago...



Slim, I don't have a problem with you or your character here, just that you can't seem to let go of the fact that my WORD isn't my word IYO on a silly little internet forum. I'm not trading things, I'm just interjecting thoughts and culling knowledge from a source that interests me. I'm not, nor will I ever be a technical, cut & dried sort of person, so don't expect me to be. If I were trading things here, you would KNOW that I'm very trustworthy. But as you are so quick to point out, I don't smoke enough IYO to actually have things to trade. I don't plan on changing those habits either. And you STILL haven't aswered my Q re how many cigars one has to smoke to qualify to be worthy to post here. You brought my smoking habits into it, so please enlighten me.



FYI, anyone who actual knows me, Marla the person not E-Chick the BB character, will tell you that I am the most honest, upstanding person that will go to the ends of the earth for you. If by typing on my keyboard that I've been personally insulted and had enough here and then daily prodded to please come back by many because they miss and enjoy my input, that you consider me a flake, then so be it. I won't change your opinion. I'm not trying to. I know who I am and the people who matter to me know who I am. I am confident WE'LL never truly know each other or care to for that matter on either side.

And to Rookie: Just like a cop to not get what someone is trying to say and to assume that they're on drugs and paranoid...So, how do YOU like being lumped into a stereotype?



Please spare me any more of your condesending banter. Would you please back off...At least Slimboli STILL gives me cigar advice and was even willing to teach me/us some basic HTML stuff...I'll never change, it's too bad you have. I DON'T have a problem with such and such or so and so. I've kept from responding to the continual threads that just won't let it end as long as I could. I'm not the one who's started them. I toped THIS thread to show approximately when I initially posted and that I am still the same poster as I was 2 years ago since my validity as a poster/lurker has been called into play.



Someone writes and I respond...and this having to write a novel to explain myself is getting old since you ask me Q's and don't seem to get what I'm saying...so if you or Slim have further questions, accusations, or plain old **** that you'd like to say to me via real life voice...please email me and I'd be more than happy to give you my number so we can discuss this further and put it to bed. Everyone here would thank you and Slim for not inciting more response from me, right?



Best to all and let's keep it simple from now on, please...E



ps. Maggiepond is very quiet. She may have learned that as a woman here, she'd quickly be put on trial if she were to have a personality. I'm not knocking her by any means, I just know little of her. Like I said, she's very quiet and may very well have a totally different type of personality than me or you. But I'll certainly not freak out that we don't talk to each other or that she ONLY posts about cigars and not funny asides or ideas. To each her own.

RICK: no flowers


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I'm ever hopeful though!

"I am a relative newbie here. I have been catching up on the past postings and I have to admit I find E-chick's ramblings to be very disruptive to the flow of a thread. I do enjoy the humor and banter at this site but the constant switch of subject is a little disconcerting. I was for the most part ambivelent at her signing off and now I am sorry to see her return. Either she should start lighting up some stogies and sharing those experiences or just stay out of the conversation."
That was a repost from another thread. In reading what has been flying around today I want to agree with echick, lets keep it simple. Echick, keep your word, don't go away mad, just go away.

Well said Slim! re: the "double-standard"...As I said Marla, you STILL refuse to answer my question about who you have problems with..Nuff said...I'm done posting on this subject..Good luck with everything Marla (and I AM being very sincere)...Gotta go and enjoy a nice Monte #5 ISOM before dinner

I gotta say one thing, whoever posted that repost that Sammydaddy posted (man this is getting confusing) I completelydisagree with...Why does she have to "smoke cigars and post her experiences or get out"??...Why can't she post about other subjects if she wishes...after all, WE post about some of the most mundane things quite often ourselves...Is this the double-standard you're referring to?..I really do want to understand your view on this Marla..JUST posting about cigars gets really old on ANY cigarboard.
Keith

Sorry...I paraphrased..Here's the quote I was referring to: "start lighting up some stogies and sharing those experiences or just stay out of the conversations"...See?...I'm not a man of my word since I said I was done posting on this subject..LOL

E-Chick -- I am the same person online, as I am in real life. I amazes me that some people think this is not a 'real world'. I don't lie, exaggerate, or try to be someone I'm not. My concience would not allow that.

Sorry to hear you have to take on a phony persona to go online. Try being yourself ... maybe more here would take a liking to you.