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Leading’ the GOP in Da House be Hard
8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted:
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This is going just like I planned. A winter recess and when we return, we have a whole three business days to come up with a package to avoid a government shutdown. I don’t care, Shut It Down! Wait…… a government shutdown actually adds to the deficit? Oh ohhh.

Wait. Financial overages will add to the deficit, BUT it will add to the deficit under Biden. It’s a win. I’m a wizard!


-Speaker of the House, Harry Potter.
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How about that 100 billion to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.

More fraud, waste, and war while our country struggles.
deadeyedick Offline
#3 Posted:
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"A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon we are talking real money."

~Everett Dirksen
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#4 Posted:
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Now all the Dems need to do is sit back calmly and wait for MTG (Massive Tantrum Girl) to go head hunting for Potter to demonstrate Republicans are truly unfit to govern in time for the home stretch of the election cycle.

Of course the upcoming DNC in Chicago ChitShow should help sink the Dems as fast as the hot-blooded, angry white trash element of the Republican Party.

The race to the bottom is getting closer, and closer to the bottom each day.
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Yeah I’m sure it was MTG that broke promises…..

Did you think it was strange that a freedom caucus member with no previous chair experience had no massive yells from the left?

When you are so far off the rails that you threaten Massey with fines for a tweet, and Massey is tired of your 💩 I wonder why you always go to the Republican can’t govern. Some seem to have consistency in their principles……right or wrong. And those are the ones you like name calling the most it seems.

Ok bro.
Abrignac Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yeah I’m sure it was MTG that broke promises…..

Did you think it was strange that a freedom caucus member with no previous chair experience had no massive yells from the left?

When you are so far off the rails that you threaten Massey with fines for a tweet, and Massey is tired of your 💩 I wonder why you always go to the Republican can’t govern. Some seem to have consistency in their principles……right or wrong. And those are the ones you like name calling the most it seems.

Ok bro.



Well she did insert around 12 earmarks in the spending bill then throws a tantrum about excess spending before she filed a motion to have a vote to vacate the speaker for passing that bill so she has that going for her. Of course it’s also ironic that Matt Gaetz inserted the largest earmark, $90M, in the same bill even though he led the revolt against McCarthy a month or so before for the spending bill he got passed.

So it’s pretty safe to say it has zero to do with principles and everything to do with grandstanding.
RayR Online
#7 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Well she did insert around 12 earmarks in the spending bill then throws a tantrum about excess spending before she filed a motion to have a vote to vacate the speaker for passing that bill so she has that going for her. Of course it’s also ironic that Matt Gaetz inserted the largest earmark, $90M, in the same bill even though he led the revolt against McCarthy a month or so before for the spending bill he got passed.

So it’s pretty safe to say it has zero to do with principles and everything to do with grandstanding.


She knows how the crooked game is played.
If you don't earmark da money for domestic pork, the Demo-Bolsheviks will earmark da money for fraud, waste, and war. Its not like the money won't get spent on something. There is no such thing in da swamp where if you don't spend da money on one thing, it won't get spent. They'll even give some to Joey B. to subsidize Hamas.
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MTG is the worst type of opportunist. What she does is gaslighting and grandstanding. The Democrats will support the speaker the first time because he chose country over party, as it should always be. The second time who knows? If Johnson is removed from the speakership, I think this will devastate the Republicans in the election. The Democrats will vote for their leader in a united manner. The house could be shut down for a long time. They will need to choose a Pro Tem speaker. Americans are tired of the disfunction in the Republican party. It will be almost impossible for the Republicans to choose a permanent speaker because they are so polarly divided. Even if you hate everything Democrat and liberal, surely you can see the problem with such divisiveness.
rfenst Offline
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RayR wrote:
She knows how the crooked game is played.
If you don't earmark da money for domestic pork, the Demo-Bolsheviks will earmark da money for fraud, waste, and war. Its not like the money won't get spent on something. There is no such thing in da swamp where if you don't spend da money on one thing, it won't get spent. They'll even give some to Joey B. to subsidize Hamas.

Isn't she brilliant too?
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Speyside2 wrote:
MTG is the worst type of opportunist. What she does is gaslighting and grandstanding. The Democrats will support the speaker the first time because he chose country over party, as it should always be. The second time who knows? If Johnson is removed from the speakership, I think this will devastate the Republicans in the election. The Democrats will vote for their leader in a united manner. The house could be shut down for a long time. They will need to choose a Pro Tem speaker. Americans are tired of the disfunction in the Republican party. It will be almost impossible for the Republicans to choose a permanent speaker because they are so polarly divided. Even if you hate everything Democrat and liberal, surely you can see the problem with such divisiveness.

Divisiveness = BINGO!
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Brilliant can be so situational. At a minimum she is brilliant to her constituents and others with a mindset similar to her constituents.
RayR Online
#12 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Isn't she brilliant too?


I think even though Mr. Jones doesn't like her hair, she's smarter than she looks.
jeebling Online
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Speyside2 wrote:
MTG is the worst type of opportunist. What she does is gaslighting and grandstanding. The Democrats will support the speaker the first time because he chose country over party, as it should always be. The second time who knows? If Johnson is removed from the speakership, I think this will devastate the Republicans in the election. The Democrats will vote for their leader in a united manner. The house could be shut down for a long time. They will need to choose a Pro Tem speaker. Americans are tired of the disfunction in the Republican party. It will be almost impossible for the Republicans to choose a permanent speaker because they are so polarly divided. Even if you hate everything Democrat and liberal, surely you can see the problem with such divisiveness.


I would rather see the Republicans fix their broken party and leadership problems than line up like sheep heading for the gulag. They will take heat from both sides and people will be impatient with their brokenness. That should not deter those Representatives who were sent to Congress to “fix” things on behalf of their constituents. Too many campaign one way then vote another. Going along with the crowd and obeying the party bosses may spin into a nice country over party story but that is just more gaslighting and deception. That’s how I see this dysfunctional system.
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Well stated, I hope most people see the true problem as you have jeebz.
jeebling Online
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Thank you Spey. I appreciate the conversation.
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jeebling wrote:
I would rather see the Republicans fix their broken party and leadership problems than line up like sheep heading for the gulag. They will take heat from both sides and people will be impatient with their brokenness. That should not deter those Representatives who were sent to Congress to “fix” things on behalf of their constituents. Too many campaign one way then vote another. Going along with the crowd and obeying the party bosses may spin into a nice country over party story but that is just more gaslighting and deception. That’s how I see this dysfunctional system.


There is a certain amount of truth in what you say. However, change comes about incrementally. Wars are won by being victorious in some battles and mitigating damage in others. If leaders lead their troops into a slaughter none will be left standing to continue the fight.

That’s the problem with people like MTG. She presents an all or nothing attitude. Doing so paints one into a corner and anything less than a full victory is viewed by bystanders as a total defeat. Unfortunately the fallout is an appearance of ineptitude which leads voters to seek an alternative.

At the moment House Republicans should be trying to come together so they can convince voters that they are capable of managing the House and should be rewarded with at least as many seats as they currently have. The reality however is an appearance of a party in chaos which is far from desirable.
jeebling Online
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I can’t argue with that. I’d love to see consensus among the Republicans. I’d also love to see a Democrat or two start asking a few tough questions. I’m not saying this as though that’s how I hope they destroy their party. I’d rather see voters make a choice that forces that level of change. I only mean that I think it’s good for either party to have some loud mouth policing their own. If that makes sense?
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#18 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Yeah I’m sure it was MTG that broke promises…..

Did you think it was strange that a freedom caucus member with no previous chair experience had no massive yells from the left?

When you are so far off the rails that you threaten Massey with fines for a tweet, and Massey is tired of your 💩 I wonder why you always go to the Republican can’t govern. Some seem to have consistency in their principles……right or wrong. And those are the ones you like name calling the most it seems.

Ok bro.


By all means, tear Potter down. 6 Czarist Squad members are sinking the Republicans ship.
The Dems have a leash and muzzle on their Squad.

And as Evangelicals are hearing more about the Hush Trial, more are looking in the mirror and starting to flake off support Humpy Trumpy.

They are finally asking themselves “I’m suppose to be a Christian, what is Christian about supporting a Grab Em By the *****, convicted sexual assaulter, and a guy paying off Playboy models and a Porn Star?”

With the primaries over, it is a heck of a time to have that epiphany.
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Speyside2 wrote:
MTG is the worst type of opportunist. What she does is gaslighting and grandstanding. The Democrats will support the speaker the first time because he chose country over party, as it should always be. The second time who knows? If Johnson is removed from the speakership, I think this will devastate the Republicans in the election. The Democrats will vote for their leader in a united manner. The house could be shut down for a long time. They will need to choose a Pro Tem speaker. Americans are tired of the disfunction in the Republican party. It will be almost impossible for the Republicans to choose a permanent speaker because they are so polarly divided. Even if you hate everything Democrat and liberal, surely you can see the problem with such divisiveness.


Excellent post.
Imagine Trumpers being in denial of the above. Smdh
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Speaker Johnson yesterday on Biden’s Border Executive Order….

“… it’s too little too late now.”

So Mr. Johnson would rather not have the border flow slowed because it’s too late?

This, after he and other Republicans have been angered because Biden wouldn’t take Executive Action?

Guess Republicans are now the party of open borders.

HockeyDad Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Speaker Johnson yesterday on Biden’s Border Executive Order….

“… it’s too little too late now.”

So Mr. Johnson would rather not have the border flow slowed because it’s too late?

This, after he and other Republicans have been angered because Biden wouldn’t take Executive Action?

Guess Republicans are now the party of open borders.



What is being trial ballooned in the media is basically Biden is going have someone at the door of Costco with a clicker counting people and once it gets to a certain number, everyone else has to come back tomorrow.

Yup, Republicans are the party of open borders. Democrats have once again solved a problem they manufactured.

Four more years! Four more years! Lock him up.

This is why I bet with the Democrats. Don’t bet against the casino.
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who fired the guy who counted to 11 million?
jeebling Online
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I think this is the traditional method of kicking the can that got us here in the first place. One party then the other tries to roll out some crappy policy change with a flourish, pretending victory and lording it over the losing minority party at election time. Frankly, both parties have a base that seems to be satisfied with this. The other maneuver is to blame the opposition for not working in bipartisan agreement and abdicating leadership while doing so. That is why I’m not complaining about MTG trying to tear down certain factions of her party yet I can still complain about her hypocrisy when it comes to her ear marks in the spending bill. If she can’t remain loyal to conservative values when it comes to spending bills then I’m happy to see her voted out as well. So, in short, I think she’s useful in some ways and useless in other ways. The Republican Party needs to be dismantled and put back together properly regardless of the name calling that the opposition will engage in. It is pointless and childish to be overly concerned with short term optics in my personal opinion. I’d rather see action that fixes the problem for long term improvement. Again, just my opinion.
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Until there are term limits on the house and senate we shall all sit back and enjoy our bread and circuses.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Until there are term limits on the house and senate we shall all sit back and enjoy our bread and circuses.


*Insert Morgan Freeman's "He's right, ya know" meme right here*
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HockeyDad wrote:
Until there are term limits on the house and senate we shall all sit back and enjoy our bread and circuses.


It's time to build a French machine.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Until there are term limits on the house and senate we shall all sit back and enjoy our bread and circuses.


No guarantee that term limits will change anything. Nothing but lipstick on a pig.
rfenst Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
No guarantee that term limits will change anything. Nothing but lipstick on a pig.

There is a down-side to term limits that no one factors in when they cheer on limits.
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Abrignac wrote:
No guarantee that term limits will change anything. Nothing but lipstick on a pig.


It is prolly best that we do nothing different until we have a guarantee. Fortunately we will never have term limits.

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HockeyDad wrote:
What is being trial ballooned in the media is basically Biden is going have someone at the door of Costco with a clicker counting people and once it gets to a certain number, everyone else has to come back tomorrow.

Yup, Republicans are the party of open borders. Democrats have once again solved a problem they manufactured.

Four more years! Four more years! Lock him up.

This is why I bet with the Democrats. Don’t bet against the casino.


It is simpler than all that.

-98.2% of Trumpublicans have been screaming about Biden having the ability to slow/close the border.

-The senate had a bipartisan (meaning Republicans and Democrats came up with an agreed upon plan) until the Diet Coked Up Cheeto told his lap dogs to Sit and Stay, because he was going to win the election and really solve the problem.

-The Executive Action Biden took is actually stricter than the senate agreement.

It's probably temporary. A five month bandaid vs. what has been happening over the last 3+ years is welcome.

Entered into evidence, yet another case of the Dems outflanking and outsmarting Trumpublicans.

Interested in hearing the reactions of this order from Senators H. Walker & M. Oz.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Until there are term limits on the house and senate we shall all sit back and enjoy our bread and circuses.


And there is no bigger circus than the Trump Chhit Show.
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Gene363 wrote:
It's time to build a French machine.


A French Airbus vs a Boeing product?

Viva Le France!
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rfenst wrote:
There is a down-side to term limits that no one factors in when they cheer on limits.


Short term focus & lack of the intelectual experience.

Term limits are good enough for the president, but not for House or Senate folks? Why?

The only reason the 22nd amendment was made in 1947 was the Republicans got schlonged by Roosevelt four times.

I'm absolutely for term limits.
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