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Occupy Wall Street
DrMaddVibe Offline
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SoCal Street Cart Vendors Hurting After ‘Occupy’ Group Splatters Blood, Urine
November 7, 2011 2:14 PM

SAN DIEGO (CBS) — A pair of Southland street cart vendors who were forced to shut down their businesses after “Occupy” protesters vandalized their carts are hoping to get some help from local residents.

KNX 1070′s Tom Reopelle reports a fundraiser in the Gas Lamp district in San Diego on Monday night is aimed at helping two vendors get back on their feet.

The coffee and hot dog carts were located in Civic Center Plaza, the same location as the Occupy San Diego protesters.

That group first settled in to the plaza Oct. 7 and set up a tent city which has since twice been taken down by police.

Coffee cart owner Linda Jenson and hot dog cart operators Letty and Pete Soto said they initially provided free food and drink to demonstrators, but when they stopped, the protesters became violent.

And according to one city councilman, bodily fluids were used in the attacks.

“Both carts have had items stolen, have had their covers vandalized with markings and graffiti, as well as one of the carts had urine and blood splattered on it,” said Councilman Carl DeMaio.

The damages will likely require at least a complete cleaning if not a replacement of the cart covers, DeMaio said.

In addition to the attacks, the vendors also said they recently received death threats.

Proceeds from the fundraiser will go directly to help the two business owners.

After a relatively peaceful start, the “Occupy” movement has sparked violent clashes with police in Oakland and recently saw protesters push an elderly woman down a flight of stairs in D.C.


http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/socal-street-cart-vendors-hurting-after-occupy-group-splatters-blood-urine/



Doesn't that kinda sum up the whole occupooper movement? When the "free stuff" gets shut off...they get violent!horse
teedubbya Offline
#552 Posted:
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I was at the Republican Straw Poll in Ames one year when some Pat Buchanan (or maybe it was phil graham sp?...I don't remember) supporters tipped the Lamar Alexander porta potties which in turn made them shut down the grills they were providing free food to anyone that would vote for him. That is how those things work, whomever can bus in the most people win.... unless another canidate has a better band, and better free stuff and can draw them away....... personally.... I voted for Dole because they took pretty good care of me.

But I never much thought the idiots that tipped the porta potty represented Buchanan, the party or anything other than a small group of idiots.
CROS Offline
#553 Posted:
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If you wanna make an omelette you gotta crack a few eggs.
HockeyDad Offline
#554 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I was at the Republican Straw Poll in Ames one year when some Pat Buchanan (or maybe it was phil graham sp?...I don't remember) supporters tipped the Lamar Alexander porta potties which in turn made them shut down the grills they were providing free food to anyone that would vote for him. That is how those things work, whomever can bus in the most people win.... unless another canidate has a better band, and better free stuff and can draw them away....... personally.... I voted for Dole because they took pretty good care of me.

But I never much thought the idiots that tipped the porta potty represented Buchanan, the party or anything other than a small group of idiots.




Flyover state poop.
DrafterX Offline
#555 Posted:
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no omelette for X.... Sad
DrMaddVibe Offline
#556 Posted:
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Occupy Oakland Protesters Deposit Funds At Wells Fargo After Bank Attacks
November 9, 2011 3:37 PM

Protestors run by a defaced sign at a Wells Fargo Bank during Occupy Oakland’s general strike on November 2, 2011.

OAKLAND (CBS/AP) — A group of Oakland anti-Wall Street protesters who blame large banks for the economic downturn have decided that one of those institutions is the best place to stash their money for now.

Protesters at an Occupy Oakland meeting Monday voted to deposit a $20,000 donation into a Wells Fargo account. The move comes just days after one of Wells Fargo’s branches was vandalized during a massive downtown demonstration.


An Occupy statement said the money only will be with Wells Fargo temporarily while they work to establish an account with a credit union or community bank. Protesters said it was the easiest way to access the money to bail out people from jail.

Wells Fargo spokesman Ruben Pulido said the move demonstrates that Occupy Oakland recognizes the value and service the bank provides its customers.

(Copyright 2011 by CBS San Francisco. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.)



At least all they had to do was walk out of their tents and stumble past their poo to deposit other people's money.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#557 Posted:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Qx7VWXmjwIo#!


And "D"...Shelby



can pee and poop




on the street



just like us.






UP TWINKLES....UP TWINKLES....UP TWINKLESGonz
jetblasted Offline
#558 Posted:
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Dead man in Salt Lake City...
Tuberculosis in Atlanta...
'Zuccotti Lung' on Wall Street...
Suicide in Vermont...
Murder in Oakland...

nnightmar Offline
#559 Posted:
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And you probably still can't smoke a cigar in peace at one of these things either...
elk hunter Offline
#560 Posted:
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The Mayor of Portland Oregon has given the deadline of midnight Saturday to leave the parks.... Gonna get REAL interesting around these parts....
DrMaddVibe Offline
#561 Posted:
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jetblasted wrote:
Dead man in Salt Lake City...
Tuberculosis in Atlanta...
'Zuccotti Lung' on Wall Street...
Suicide in Vermont...
Murder in Oakland...




See the difference between the Tea Party and the occupoopers now Jet?

Clear as night and day.
Kawak Offline
#562 Posted:
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A Liberal Democrat walks into the local welfare office to pick up his check.

He marched straight up to the counter and said, "Hi.. You know...., I just HATE drawing welfare. I'd really rather have a job."

The social worker behind the counter said, "Your timing is excellent. We just got a job opening from a very wealthy old man who wants a Chauffeur and bodyguard for his beautiful daughter. You'll have to drive around in his 2011 Mercedes-Benz CL, and he will supply all of your clothes.

"Because of the long hours, meals will be provided. You'll also be expected to escort the daughter on her overseas holiday trips. This is rather awkward to say but you will also have as part of your job assignment to satisfy her sexual urges as the daughter is in her mid-20's and has a rather strong sex drive."

The guy, just plain wide-eyed, said, "You're bull****tin' me!"

The social worker said, "Yeah, well ... You started it."
dpnewell Offline
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jetblasted wrote:
Dead man in Salt Lake City...
Tuberculosis in Atlanta...
'Zuccotti Lung' on Wall Street...
Suicide in Vermont...
Murder in Oakland...



Local news reported that a Philly occupooper was raped last evening in her tent. I guess her attacker felt he was "entitled".
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#564 Posted:
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Philly's Demo-rat Mayor, Mike Nutter had a press conferance this afternoon. Claims that the occupoopers have violated the terms of their permit. Occupoopers are blocking a renovation to City Hall that the mayor claims will create 1,000 high paying union construction jobs. Philly may soon be cleaning house like some of the other cities.
FuzzNJ Offline
#565 Posted:
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dpnewell wrote:
Philly's Democrat Mayor, Mike Nutter


'Philly's Democratic Mayor, Mike Nutter' that should read. It's not Republic Mayor, and it's not Democrat mayor.
robertknyc Offline
#566 Posted:
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Right, so we say Republicanic right?
FuzzNJ Offline
#567 Posted:
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robertknyc wrote:
Right, so we say Republicanic right?


I am positive my post was sufficient for anyone with an iq over room temperature to understand completely.
dpnewell Offline
#568 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
'Philly's Democratic Mayor, Mike Nutter' that should read. It's not Republic Mayor, and it's not Democrat mayor.


Fixed it Fuzz. Happy?
ZRX1200 Offline
#569 Posted:
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You gave to say it that way so it sounds tolerable.
FuzzNJ Offline
#570 Posted:
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dpnewell wrote:
Fixed it Fuzz. Happy?


Happy that you are acting like a child? Doesn't bother me at all.
HockeyDad Offline
#571 Posted:
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You people pissed off FuzzNJ again?
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FuzzNJ wrote:
'Philly's Democratic Mayor, Mike Nutter' that should read. It's not Republic Mayor, and it's not Democrat mayor.



Fuzz says "Everyone look at me!"

snowwolf777 Offline
#573 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I am positive my post was sufficient for anyone with an iq over room temperature to understand completely.


You sound like an arrogant prick.

dpnewell Offline
#574 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Happy that you are acting like a child? Doesn't bother me at all.


Just doing my part.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#575 Posted:
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GTFO!!!




http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/nypd-clears-out-zuccotti-park-ncx-20111115
HockeyDad Offline
#576 Posted:
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NYC has apparently exceeded their poop limits.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#577 Posted:
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UP TWINKLES!whip
yardobeef Offline
#578 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
NYC has apparently exceeded their poop limits.


Won't this just flush all of the protestors into New Jersey?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#579 Posted:
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yardobeef wrote:
Won't this just flush all of the protestors into New Jersey?



No. They just sit on the couch and up twinkle all day in support of the occupoopers.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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“All property, including personal property, must be removed immediately,” they read from a script. “This is a health hazard. If you refuse to leave the park, you will be subject to arrest.”
DrMaddVibe Offline
#581 Posted:
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Now what Tea Party rally or member stated they were going to throw a molotov cocktail into a retail store?


Oh that's right...it's the occupoopers!

MikeyRavioli Offline
#582 Posted:
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There has been a lot of disruption and a little violence in NYC. The right to protest is one thing. Disrupting businesses, peoples commute, and assaulting police is another.
Since there never has been a message or a point it may be irrelevant but the thing they are forgetting is when people are pissed off they stop listening.
Any gain or momentum they had they will lose when they start affecting average citizens ability to get home after a day of work or to pick up their kids from the babysitter on time.
For a while they were tolerated becuase they were only a nuisance to those around the area of the park.
dpnewell Offline
#583 Posted:
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Philly posted an eviction notice last night. The city wants them to more across the street, so a 50 million dollar, union labor renovation project can start on the square. Some of them crashed into City Hall, disrupting a City Council meeting today, vowing to stay no matter what, while another group applied for a permit for the site across the street, and started to pack up. Looks like there may be a big divide between the ones who wish to remain peaceable, and the ones looking for a fight.
HockeyDad Offline
#584 Posted:
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Release the hounds!
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#585 Posted:
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[color=gret
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nubber wrote:
[color=gret
en][/color]Sarcasm


Now that has to be the most unique first post ever....
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http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=6471315


I'll take a side of fries with that too please.whip
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http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/11/protest-as-identity.html

Protest as Identity The assorted "Occupations" may be drawing to a close as even liberal mayors have lost patience with the occupation of public space and the budget drain created by aging radicals, wannabe hippies and random homeless people, hucksters, scammers and professional activists, but it isn't over because it never really began.


To the left protest is an identity, which is also why the Occupations never seemed to have much of a coherent message. The purpose of their protests is to protest, the romance of the protest is all the justification that it really needs. Creating permanent protest encampments turned protests from an occasional activity into a theme park, and that was what Zuccotti Park really was, a protest theme park for overgrown children too old to go to Disneyland, who instead tried to go back to the seventies.

The left is one long permanent protest by useful idiots whose dissatisfaction makes them seek out alternative societies in the guise of denouncing this one. Zuccotti Park was Neverland, as it would be in the real world, complete with disease, rapes and a rising body count. Peter Pan had a bong, Wendy had body piercings, the Lost Boys had game consoles and no desire to go to work tomorrow. Together they recreated the same old narrative of Woodstock to Altamont.

Today's Peter Pans and Wendys are as likely to be successful professionals as the old stereotype of dropouts who couldn't hack it. They have degrees, often more than one, many of them have jobs that the actual 99 percent would kill for, and family backgrounds in the upper and upper middle-class. What they aren't is adults. And that is an indictment of a culture whose top 9 percent sees no reason to keep going.

Generations of the left have produced children who are trained for success, who have the right tools and the right background, but who have also imbibed the idea that hard work is drudgery and that the only thing worth doing well is trying to overthrow society centered around some incompatible combination of the pleasure principle and social welfare for everyone. Those brats aren't just squatting in dirty tents, many of them are lawyers, public officials and cabinet members.

The history of the left is of childishly naive ideals fought for with ugly tactics and implemented as totalitarian dystopias. "Everyone should have things and no one should feel bad" quickly morphs into "Off the pigs" and finishes as "Starve the Kulaks" and "Bring on the Gulags". What begins with flowers ends with bombs and bullets, and depending on the outcome, sobs and bitter recollections of how the revolution was crushed, or revisionist history that denies everything that happened since the revolution succeeded.

The modern left's strange combination of lotus eaters and fire breathers, freeloaders and fanatics, isn't a split personality, it's the identity of people who have been deprived of every other form of identity, who romanticize alienation even when they are actually insiders, because they are no longer members of a nation, a nationality, a religion or even a professional class. They are the lost boys and girls still looking for happiness long after their grandparents failed to find in drugs and communes, and their great-grandparents failed to find it in psychoanalysis and decadence, and their great-great-grandparents failed to find it in spirit rapping and unstructured poetry.

Those for whom happiness is escape briefly found it in a cluster of dirty tents, volunteerism, drugs, communal sleeping arrangements and the collapse of societal boundaries as the edge of a new world. Neverland with drugs, casual sex and a feeling of self-satisfaction at one's own self-righteousness. It wasn't a new discovery. The Lotus was known for thousands of years along with its bitter aftertaste. What follows after all the rules are broken is the discovery of how bad life can be without them.

At Zuccotti Park, the professional activist, working for unions and community groups, encountered the professional protester, who goes to a bewildering mix of rallies to spew his hate at his favorite targets, and together they ran into the lost boys and girls who confused anti-capitalism with utopia, and they all met the homeless and the huckster-- the men and women living in actual poverty on the edge of their shining societies out of view of their parents' mansions.


If that encounter taught them nothing else, it may have taught them that the left's romance with poverty is a foolish thing. Poverty doesn't mean seventy thousand dollars in student debt and a job at Starbucks. It means looking at a trash can and wondering if there's something good to eat inside. It means being cold and hungry, and it also often means being greedy and manipulative.

The streets of New York City are not all that bad, but surviving them still doesn't breed philanthropic traits. New York's homeless are often mentally unstable or suffering from drug and alcohol problems. They are violent or have learned to be in self-defense. The occupiers may have begun by feeling empathy for them, but they quickly learned that the empathy was not reciprocated. This may be the fastest that the left has ever learned this lesson, which it has thus far failed to do with every single minority it glommed onto and tried to organize for their own good.

The segregation of gentrification meant that even the occupiers who have moved into the formerly grungy parts of downtown Manhattan and Brooklyn had never really lived side by side with people on the edge. And shacked up next to people who didn't even have a place in housing projects quickly brought out their own selfish side. Confronted with people who only knew how to take taught them how to hold on to what they had. And in learning that lesson, they absorbed the ugliest part of capitalism that they had come to denounce. Faced with greed, they became greedy. Confronted with the reality of surviving in an environment with no rules, the occupiers became propertarians.

Then there were the hucksters, con artists, gang members, drifters who don't qualify as homeless, but are a long way from solid citizens. Some came to deal drugs, others to take advantage of whatever was offered, from food to smartphones to sleeping women. Alternative societies attract dealers and scammers, not to mention wannabe muscle, wannabe cult leaders, the pathologically insane and the violently deranged.

These are the people you quickly pass by when you see them standing around, the ones who try to lure you into a conversation that escalates into a scam or a shakedown, or those who stare at the passing sheep with wolfish eyes waiting for one of them to be alone in the right place at the right time. You see them on camera walking away from an armed robbery, a rape or a mugging. Many of them are smarter than that. They brush against the law, but they don't go down for anything serious. Strange names, shadows of Riker's Island on them, they are the ghosts haunting this city and all cities.

They see themselves as men of honor who have gotten the short end of the stick, they have tales of their parents, their girlfriends, parole officers, employers all took advantage of them. And they had no choice but to stand up for themselves. Look back through and the parents lock their doors at night, the ex-girlfriends wear burns and bruises to bed, the parole officers sigh and the employers fired them for stealing or violent outbursts on the job. They're not the dangerous criminals that Hollywood is fascinated by, they are actual criminals.

And when you create a revolution, the best and worst of them are the ones who eventually take over. Hitler and Stalin, Manson and Saddam, dark-eyed men who are always angry over perceived injustices, who have learned to charm the birds down from the trees right before they crush them to death. Power consumes them. Power is their obsession. How to get it. How to keep it. When movements begin planning revolution they show up and sooner or later, they get to the top, if they don't sideline themselves into a commune or a cult.

Persuasiveness is their biggest asset, they are romantics at heart and capable of dreaming big. But their only real dream is absolute power for themselves. Give them a revolution and they'll knock off everyone who stands between them and the big chair, and then purge the idiots who made it happen. That was the fate of the SA at the hands of Hitler, of the old Bolsheviks at the hands of Stalin and the Baath Party at the hands of Saddam. If the American left ever got its act together enough to pull off a violent revolution and take over-- sooner or later their own Stalin would show up with a cold smile and even colder amusement in his eyes.

The Occupiers don't know how lucky they are, because despite all their degrees they have forgotten how revolutions, real revolutions, end. They end when the people holding up the ridiculous signs, the petty criminals and the mentally unstable, whom no one took seriously, become the secret police for one of those charming outsiders who wandered in and now owns the place. The fellow with the dark eyes who excels at taking control of meetings and driving out people who don't agree with him. Who despite his poor literacy speaks so magnetically that it seems impossible to believe that's he's a lunatic who dreams nightly or killing everyone who ever offended him.

Unluckily they'll have another shot at it, as many as they can take. The left has defined itself by opposition, protest is its identity, if you aren't outraged then you aren't paying attention. Even when it is in power, it tries to position itself as the courageous underdog battling the forces of people who just want to eat lunch in a public park and the people who want to sell them their lunch. Capitalism, in other words.


The theme of 99 percent and 1 percent emphasizes the schizophrenic universalization of alienation. We are all on the outside... together. But you can't build a society of outsiders, much as the left has tried with its programs of multiculturalism and borderless nations. Making alienation your identity is fine for teenagers who are still busy rebelling against conventions and expectations, but there's no future in it for anyone but musicians and community organizers.

When people gather to be alone together, to eat of the lotus of a new world without worrying who where the money will come from or how the place will smell after a week, they are not protest against the way things are, but against the way they are. Protest is always personal and those who make protest their identity are really protesting against themselves.
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