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Occupy Wall Street
FuzzNJ Offline
#451 Posted:
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MikeyRavioli wrote:
They have created conversation. It may be a little more in the news here in NY NJ than it is in other parts of the country. Even here it has cooled a little. But it has created conversation. There is no denying it.

Sadly, conversation doesn't "pay the bills". A bunch of fat people can converse about diet and excersize. All the fatties agree their weight is a problem. The conversation won't make them weigh less.

A bunch of hippies talk about the need for economic reform. People agree that economic reform is needed. The conversation won't bring any reform.

Supporting candidates with new ideas beings reform. Sadly Obama vs whomever the Republicans put up will be devoid of new ideas.



I'm glad Tories like you guys didn't win the argument in 1776.
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http://www.unionvillageltd.com/colonial-reproduction-furniture/country-sofas.cfm


I wonder which style of couch FuzzNJ would be sitting on in 1776.
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#453 Posted:
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I thought I was a centrist until you told me I was a blue dog. Now I am a Torie? I flip flop a lot.
FuzzNJ Offline
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MikeyRavioli wrote:
I thought I was a centrist until you told me I was a blue dog. Now I am a Torie? I flip flop a lot.


Both don't like change. ;)
HockeyDad Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Both don't like change. ;)



Good thing we have not had any change for three years!
FuzzNJ Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Got thing we have not had any change for three years!



Pretty horrible actually. Bernie Sanders for Pres!
MikeyRavioli Offline
#457 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Pretty horrible actually. Bernie Sanders for Pres!


I loved him on the Detroit Lions back in the day. Sad he never was on a good team



Sarcasm
FuzzNJ Offline
#458 Posted:
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MikeyRavioli wrote:
I loved him on the Detroit Lions back in the day. Sad he never was on a good team



Sarcasm


Every damn Thanksgiving for years he was on my tv, Barry, not Barnie.
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Why OWS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wK1MOMKZ8BI#!

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You there yet?
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OWS's Beef: Wall Street Isn't Winning – It's Cheating

I was at an event on the Upper East Side last Friday night when I got to talking with a salesman in the media business. The subject turned to Zucotti Park and Occupy Wall Street, and he was chuckling about something he'd heard on the news.

"I hear [Occupy Wall Street] has a CFO," he said. "I think that's funny."

"Okay, I'll bite," I said. "Why is that funny?"

"Well, I heard they're trying to decide what bank to put their money in," he said, munching on hors d'oeuvres. "It's just kind of ironic."

Oh, Christ, I thought. He’s saying the protesters are hypocrites because they’re using banks. I sighed.

"Listen," I said, "where else are you going to put three hundred thousand dollars? A shopping bag?"

"Well," he said, "it's just, they're protests are all about... You know..."

"Dude," I said. "These people aren't protesting money. They're not protesting banking. They're protesting corruption on Wall Street."

"Whatever," he said, shrugging.

These nutty criticisms of the protests are spreading like cancer. Earlier that same day, I'd taped a TV segment on CNN with Will Cain from the National Review, and we got into an argument on the air. Cain and I agreed about a lot of the problems on Wall Street, but when it came to the protesters, we disagreed on one big thing.

Cain said he believed that the protesters are driven by envy of the rich.

"I find the one thing [the protesters] have in common revolves around the human emotions of envy and entitlement," he said. "What you have is more than what I have, and I'm not happy with my situation."

Cain seems like a nice enough guy, but I nearly blew my stack when I heard this. When you take into consideration all the theft and fraud and market manipulation and other evil **** Wall Street bankers have been guilty of in the last ten-fifteen years, you have to have balls like church bells to trot out a propaganda line that says the protesters are just jealous of their hard-earned money.

Think about it: there have always been rich and poor people in America, so if this is about jealousy, why the protests now? The idea that masses of people suddenly discovered a deep-seated animus/envy toward the rich – after keeping it strategically hidden for decades – is crazy.

Where was all that class hatred in the Reagan years, when openly dumping on the poor became fashionable? Where was it in the last two decades, when unions disappeared and CEO pay relative to median incomes started to triple and quadruple?

The answer is, it was never there. If anything, just the opposite has been true. Americans for the most part love the rich, even the obnoxious rich. And in recent years, the harder things got, the more we've obsessed over the wealth dream. As unemployment skyrocketed, people tuned in in droves to gawk at Evrémonde-heiresses like Paris Hilton, or watch bullies like Donald Trump fire people on TV.

Moreover, the worse the economy got, the more being a millionaire or a billionaire somehow became a qualification for high office, as people flocked to voting booths to support politicians with names like Bloomberg and Rockefeller and Corzine, names that to voters symbolized success and expertise at a time when few people seemed to have answers. At last count, there were 245 millionaires in congress, including 66 in the Senate.

And we hate the rich? Come on. Success is the national religion, and almost everyone is a believer. Americans love winners. But that's just the problem. These guys on Wall Street are not winning – they're cheating. And as much as we love the self-made success story, we hate the cheater that much more.

We cheer for people who hit their own home runs in this country– not shortcut-chasing juicers like Bonds and McGwire, Blankfein and Dimon.

That's why it's so obnoxious when people say the protesters are just sore losers who are jealous of these smart guys in suits who beat them at the game of life. This isn't disappointment at having lost. It's anger because those other guys didn't really win. And people now want the score overturned.

All weekend I was thinking about this “jealousy” question, and I just kept coming back to all the different ways the game is rigged. People aren't jealous and they don’t want privileges. They just want a level playing field, and they want Wall Street to give up its cheat codes, things like:

FREE MONEY. Ordinary people have to borrow their money at market rates. Lloyd Blankfein and Jamie Dimon get billions of dollars for free, from the Federal Reserve. They borrow at zero and lend the same money back to the government at two or three percent, a valuable public service otherwise known as "standing in the middle and taking a gigantic cut when the government decides to lend money to itself."

Or the banks borrow billions at zero and lend mortgages to us at four percent, or credit cards at twenty or twenty-five percent. This is essentially an official government license to be rich, handed out at the expense of prudent ordinary citizens, who now no longer receive much interest on their CDs or other saved income. It is virtually impossible to not make money in banking when you have unlimited access to free money, especially when the government keeps buying its own cash back from you at market rates.

Your average chimpanzee couldn't **** up that business plan, which makes it all the more incredible that most of the too-big-to-fail banks are nonetheless still functionally insolvent, and dependent upon bailouts and phony accounting to stay above water. Where do the protesters go to sign up for their interest-free billion-dollar loans?

CREDIT AMNESTY. If you or I miss a $7 payment on a Gap card or, heaven forbid, a mortgage payment, you can forget about the great computer in the sky ever overlooking your mistake. But serial financial fuckups like Citigroup and Bank of America overextended themselves by the hundreds of billions and pumped trillions of dollars of deadly leverage into the system -- and got rewarded with things like the Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program, an FDIC plan that allowed irresponsible banks to borrow against the government's credit rating.

This is equivalent to a trust fund teenager who trashes six consecutive off-campus apartments and gets rewarded by having Daddy co-sign his next lease. The banks needed programs like TLGP because without them, the market rightly would have started charging more to lend to these idiots. Apparently, though, we can’t trust the free market when it comes to Bank of America, Goldman, Sachs, Citigroup, etc.

In a larger sense, the TBTF banks all have the implicit guarantee of the federal government, so investors know it's relatively safe to lend to them -- which means it's now cheaper for them to borrow money than it is for, say, a responsible regional bank that didn't jack its debt-to-equity levels above 35-1 before the crash and didn't dabble in toxic mortgages. In other words, the TBTF banks got better credit for being less responsible. Click on freecreditscore.com to see if you got the same deal.

STUPIDITY INSURANCE. Defenders of the banks like to talk a lot about how we shouldn't feel sorry for people who've been foreclosed upon, because it's they're own fault for borrowing more than they can pay back, buying more house than they can afford, etc. And critics of OWS have assailed protesters for complaining about things like foreclosure by claiming these folks want “something for nothing.”

This is ironic because, as one of the Rolling Stone editors put it last week, “something for nothing is Wall Street’s official policy." In fact, getting bailed out for bad investment decisions has been de rigeur on Wall Street not just since 2008, but for decades.

Time after time, when big banks screw up and make irresponsible bets that blow up in their faces, they've scored bailouts. It doesn't matter whether it was the Mexican currency bailout of 1994 (when the state bailed out speculators who gambled on the peso) or the IMF/World Bank bailout of Russia in 1998 (a bailout of speculators in the "emerging markets") or the Long-Term Capital Management Bailout of the same year (in which the rescue of investors in a harebrained hedge-fund trading scheme was deemed a matter of international urgency by the Federal Reserve), Wall Street has long grown accustomed to getting bailed out for its mistakes.

The 2008 crash, of course, birthed a whole generation of new bailout schemes. Banks placed billions in bets with AIG and should have lost their shirts when the firm went under -- AIG went under, after all, in large part because of all the huge mortgage bets the banks laid with the firm -- but instead got the state to pony up $180 billion or so to rescue the banks from their own bad decisions.

This sort of thing seems to happen every time the banks do something dumb with their money. Just recently, the French and Belgian authorities cooked up a massive bailout of the French bank Dexia, whose biggest trading partners included, surprise, surprise, Goldman, Sachs and Morgan Stanley. Here's how the New York Times explained the bailout:

To limit damage from Dexia’s collapse, the bailout fashioned by the French and Belgian governments may make these banks and other creditors whole — that is, paid in full for potentially tens of billions of euros they are owed. This would enable Dexia’s creditors and trading partners to avoid losses they might otherwise suffer...

When was the last time the government stepped into help you "avoid losses you might otherwise suffer?" But that's the reality we live in. When Joe Homeowner bought too much house, essentially betting that home prices would go up, and losing his bet when they dropped, he was an irresponsible putz who shouldn’t whine about being put on the street.

But when banks bet billions on a firm like AIG that was heavily invested in mortgages, they were making the same bet that Joe Homeowner made, leaving themselves hugely exposed to a sudden drop in home prices. But instead of being asked to "suck it in and cope" when that bet failed, the banks instead went straight to Washington for a bailout -- and got it.

UNGRADUATED TAXES. I've already gone off on this more than once, but it bears repeating. Bankers on Wall Street pay lower tax rates than most car mechanics. When Warren Buffet released his tax information, we learned that with taxable income of $39 million, he paid $6.9 million in taxes last year, a tax rate of about 17.4%.

Most of Buffet’s income, it seems, was taxed as either "carried interest" (i.e. hedge-fund income) or long-term capital gains, both of which carry 15% tax rates, half of what many of the Zucotti park protesters will pay.

As for the banks, as companies, we've all heard the stories. Goldman, Sachs in 2008 – this was the same year the bank reported $2.9 billion in profits, and paid out over $10 billion in compensation -- paid just $14 million in taxes, a 1% tax rate.

Bank of America last year paid not a single dollar in taxes -- in fact, it received a "tax credit" of $1 billion. There are a slew of troubled companies that will not be paying taxes for years, including Citigroup and CIT.

When GM bought the finance company AmeriCredit, it was able to marry its long-term losses to AmeriCredit's revenue stream, creating a tax windfall worth as much as $5 billion. So even though AmeriCredit is expected to post earnings of $8-$12 billion in the next decade or so, it likely won't pay any taxes during that time, because its revenue will be offset by GM's losses.

Thank God our government decided to pledge $50 billion of your tax dollars to a rescue of General Motors! You just paid for one of the world's biggest tax breaks.

And last but not least, there is:

GET OUT OF JAIL FREE. One thing we can still be proud of is that America hasn't yet managed to achieve the highest incarceration rate in history -- that honor still goes to the Soviets in the Stalin/Gulag era. But we do still have about 2.3 million people in jail in America.

Virtually all 2.3 million of those prisoners come from "the 99%." Here is the number of bankers who have gone to jail for crimes related to the financial crisis: 0.

Millions of people have been foreclosed upon in the last three years. In most all of those foreclosures, a regional law enforcement office -- typically a sheriff's office -- was awarded fees by the court as part of the foreclosure settlement, settlements which of course were often rubber-stamped by a judge despite mountains of perjurious robosigned evidence.

That means that every single time a bank kicked someone out of his home, a local police department got a cut. Local sheriff's offices also get cuts of almost all credit card judgments, and other bank settlements. If you're wondering how it is that so many regional police departments have the money for fancy new vehicles and SWAT teams and other accoutrements, this is one of your answers.

What this amounts to is the banks having, as allies, a massive armed police force who are always on call, ready to help them evict homeowners and safeguard the repossession of property. But just see what happens when you try to call the police to prevent an improper foreclosure. Then, suddenly, the police will not get involved. It will be a "civil matter" and they won't intervene.

The point being: if you miss a few home payments, you have a very high likelihood of colliding with a police officer in the near future. But if you defraud a pair of European banks out of a billion dollars -- that's a billion, with a b -- you will never be arrested, never see a policeman, never see the inside of a jail cell.

Your settlement will be worked out not with armed police, but with regulators in suits who used to work for your company or one like it. And you'll have, defending you, a former head of that regulator's agency. In the end, a fine will be paid to the government, but it won't come out of your pocket personally; it will be paid by your company's shareholders. And there will be no admission of criminal wrongdoing.

The Abacus case, in which Goldman helped a hedge fund guy named John Paulson beat a pair of European banks for a billion dollars, tells you everything you need to know about the difference between our two criminal justice systems. The settlement was $550 million -- just over half of the damage.

Can anyone imagine a common thief being caught by police and sentenced to pay back half of what he took? Just one low-ranking individual in that case was charged (case pending), and no individual had to reach into his pocket to help cover the fine. The settlement Goldman paid to to the government was about 1/24th of what Goldman received from the government just in the AIG bailout. And that was the toughest "punishment" the government dished out to a bank in the wake of 2008.

The point being: we have a massive police force in America that outside of lower Manhattan prosecutes crime and imprisons citizens with record-setting, factory-level efficiency, eclipsing the incarceration rates of most of history's more notorious police states and communist countries.

But the bankers on Wall Street don't live in that heavily-policed country. There are maybe 1000 SEC agents policing that sector of the economy, plus a handful of FBI agents. There are nearly that many police officers stationed around the polite crowd at Zucotti park.

These inequities are what drive the OWS protests. People don't want handouts. It's not a class uprising and they don't want civil war -- they want just the opposite. They want everyone to live in the same country, and live by the same rules. It's amazing that some people think that that's asking a lot.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/owss-beef-wall-street-isnt-winning-its-cheating-20111025
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#462 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
"Whatever," he said, shrugging.



There it is. Boiled down to the essence of it all for OWS. Whatever.

Whatever message you wanted to convey was drowned by the sea of whirling dervish plastic pail beaters.

Whatever demands they wanted aired were stained by pooing on private property.

Whatever change they effectively railed for were guffawed by the Twinkles & the Zombiespeak Show.

Tried to compare it to Ghandi and MLK. Whatever.

Couldn't see that they were being co-opted and their message prostituted because they couldn't unify it to the snippet thinking Americans desire now for information and entertainment. Whatever.

Now we're seeing the cities one by one abort the Occupoopers like the non-viable entity that they are. The media has already turned their collective backs on them. The only platform that holds them in any regard is the Kenyan King. Boiled down, it's his base. These tatted up filthy drugged hazed trust funded spoiled 20somethings is what he has left as a major bloc.

No, this is being shut down. Let them quibble over how and were to park their 500K in "donations". This should be fun to watch. I'd love it if in the spirit of their grand "movement" if they gave it to the park owners to pay for cleaning the place they defiled or to the city to pay for the police overtime they inflicted upon the city coffers but they'll most likely cash it all in on $1's and $5's and throw it all down on the pavement. A virtual cash grab free-for-all just like the institution they wanted to demonize.

Whatever.

Atlas Shrugged.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieeNvciXULM


Any questions?


did he make himself clear?


He has a pair of handcuffs and KNOWS how to use them!




OCCUPOOPERS



OF THE




WORLD



RAGE!!!!
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http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/26/2011-10-26_rajat_gupta_ex_goldman_sachs_and_procter__gamble_director_surrenders_on_insider_.html

Long story short - Ex GS honcho surrenders after 4 year probe on insider trading charges. Unless OWS has been around for 4 years, investigations leading to prosecutions started waaaay before they did.
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#465 Posted:
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MikeyRavioli wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/26/2011-10-26_rajat_gupta_ex_goldman_sachs_and_procter__gamble_director_surrenders_on_insider_.html

Long story short - Ex GS honcho surrenders after 4 year probe on insider trading charges. Unless OWS has been around for 4 years, investigations leading to prosecutions started waaaay before they did.



Snickerdoodles is going to be really mad when he finds out that this started under the Bush Administration!

Now THAT is a conversation changer!!!

Hoper and Changer!Frying pan
MikeyRavioli Offline
#466 Posted:
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Actually I was waiting for someone to play the race card. Gupta and Ramalamadingdong are brown people so they got prosecuted. Blankfein and Dimon are white.
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"Occupy Oakland" Activity Update

Oakland, CA: At approximately 4:00pm this afternoon, "Occupy Oakland" protesters began convening in front of the Oakland Library located at 125-14th Street. The group of approximately 400 – 500 protesters began to move in the direction between 14th and Broadway, and 7th and Broadway. Protesters in the area of 7th and Broadway began throwing paint or other hazardous material at the officers who deployed gas as a defense tactic. Officers redirected the group North toward Frank Ogawa Plaza where they are currently congregating. The Oakland Police Department has declared an unlawful assembly at this time, and issued an order of dispersal.

At approximately 7:45pm, officers began to deploy gas after issuing the order to disperse. We have received no reports of injuries at the time of this release.

To help ensure that accurate information is provided to you, below is a list of questions and answers.

Q. Why was an enforcement action taken this morning?

A. From the start of the demonstration two weeks ago, the City of Oakland focused on facilitating the protesters’ right to free speech and peaceful expression while maintaining public health, safety and crowd control. Over the past weeks, the City provided multiple and frequent written notices to outline requirements to protect the health and safety of the group and of the City Hall area. After the first weekend, the City received reports of problems, and communicated to the protesters about additional health and safety concerns. But by the end of last week, it was apparent that overnight camping would have to end due to health and safety issues and continued violations of the law. On Oct. 21, Frank Ogawa Plaza was red tagged, requiring protestors to vacate. On the morning of Oct. 25, many protestors left the plaza after Police announced that they would be arrested if they did not disperse. Those who chose to stay were removed without any reported injuries.

A. There were a series of safety conditions, including numerous reports of fighting, assault and threatening/intimidating behavior. Medical responders (AMR Ambulance Company) were denied access on at least two occasions to provide medical care. Furthermore, the Oakland Fire Department and Police Department were denied access to the Plaza to respond to calls for service.

Sanitation conditions worsened with frequent instances of public urination and defecation, as well as improper food storage. The existing rodent problem on the Plaza was exacerbated and vector control was unable to implement measures to control the rat problem due to the presence of overnight campers. The Plaza was physically damaged on a daily basis by graffiti, litter and vandalism. Fire hazards continued unabated, including cooking with open flame, improper storage of grease, inadequate fire extinguishers, density of tents and flammable materials and smoking in tents.There were reports of public drinking and intoxication. Numerous complaints from employees and businesses were received regarding concern for safety.

Q. Why did the enforcement action occur early in the morning?

A.Last Wednesday, it became apparent that the tenor of the encampment had changed and that there were increasing incidents of violence. Reports of a man seriously beaten and continued denials of access to PD & FD for calls for service were received.As such, the City could no longer preserve health and safety of the protestors or the public. As part of the planning process, the Police asked the county and state for mutual aid—which was a 5-day process. The decision to execute the enforcement action on Tuesday morning was based on the reality that fewer individuals (as part of the protest and those going to work)would be present at the Plaza at the time, thus would be safer for all.

Q. When will the plaza reopen?

A.The City remains committed to respecting free speech as well as maintaining the City’s responsibility to protect public health and safety.At this time, the Plaza is closed to the public while Public Works cleans up hazardous waste and debris. For instance, it is known that there is human waste on the sidewalks and head and body lice, bed bugs that need to be cleaned and sanitized before the Plaza can be reopened to the public. Rodent/Vector will be brought in to exterminate. Once the plaza is deemed safe, it will be available for peaceful daytime assembly between the hours of 6 am and 10 pm. but no camping or overnight stays will be permitted. The City’s goal is to clean up the Plaza to facilitate free assembly.

Q. When will the arrestees be released?

A.The arrestees are in process of being cleared through the County. While the goal is to release these individuals this evening, the final result will be driven by the County’s workload, based on the County’s criteria for prioritizing processing of arrestees.Reports indicate that they will be released tonight.

Q.Did the Police deploy rubber bullets,flash-bag grenades?

A. No, the loud noises that were heard originated from M-80 explosives thrown at Police by protesters. In addition, Police fired approximately four bean bag rounds at protesters to stop them from throwing dangerous objects at the officers.

Q. Did the Police use tear gas?

A.Yes, the Police used a limited amount of tear gas for a small area as a defense against protesters who were throwing various objects at Police Officers as they approached the area. The objects included glass bottles, rocks, pots, pans, kitchen utensils and plates at Police Officers.In addition, the protesters sprayed a Fire Extinguisher on Police Officers.

Q. Where there any injures?

A. At this time, there are no reported injuries.

Q. Where there any children arrested or reported missing?

A. No. Contrary to reports on Facebook,there were no children arrested nor have been reported missing.
HockeyDad Offline
#468 Posted:
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Oakland is no longer occupied. Atlanta was also liberated last night.
MikeyRavioli Offline
#469 Posted:
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/ex_acorn_operatives_playing_role_s3zSPpX4NnFRoMpEGIxUBK?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

Ex-Acorn execs tied to OWS


Well, with all the fresh poop lying around you had to figure the ****flies would show up sooner or later.
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#470 Posted:
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were they passing out ciggs & stuff..?? Huh
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DrafterX wrote:
were they passing out ciggs & stuff..?? Huh


No cigars and stuff of Brewha Sad
teedubbya Offline
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Is there one of thise thingies on the Kent State campus?
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#473 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
No cigars and stuff of Brewha Sad



poor Brewha..... Sad
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW56Z-0xwIQ

Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#475 Posted:
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You Know....Uproared Outrage!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#476 Posted:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fNeU_3rTe0&feature=related


Conversation changer!horse
MikeyRavioli Offline
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_hell_kitchen_i5biNyYYhpa8MSYIL9xSDL

Well, it seems that the same people who think its unjust the way wealth is distributed don't feel the same way about their donated food.


DrMaddVibe Offline
#478 Posted:
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Mikey, you know that that is from the NYPost.

Occupooper's don't like that paper.

Snickerdoodles has called it a rag.

Therefore it holds no merit.


DOWN TWINKLES ON THIS!!!


DOWN TWINKLES!!!


DOWN!!!


Frying pan
MikeyRavioli Offline
#479 Posted:
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On that we agree - it is a rag. So is the Daily News and Newsday. But just becuase their headline story is usually something to do with Lindsey Lohan or Kim Gottabigass-ian doesnt mean its completely worthless.

The tabloids are keeping the media coverage of the protests alive.
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#480 Posted:
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MikeyRavioli wrote:
On that we agree - it is a rag. So is the Daily News and Newsday. But just becuase their headline story is usually something to do with Lindsey Lohan or Kim Gottabigass-ian doesnt mean its completely worthless.

The tabloids are keeping the media coverage of the protests alive.



After seeing some of the livestreams from Oakland I'm surprised that the tanks and water cannons weren't brought in.


Is anyone telling the Mayor's office that the police are collecting OT for this BS?
HockeyDad Offline
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I went to Occupy Tampa today. Well, drove by would be a better description. I heard that yesterday was an announced clean-up day so they wouldn't get into sanitary condition trouble like what is happening in other cities. Knowing the environment would be much better, I decided to venture in.

As an expert in my field, I was going to conduct a teach-in. Apparently the whole cleaning thing scared most of them off yesterday. I saw three people with signs and around 20 sitting around. We have elementary school class sizes larger than that.
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#482 Posted:
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were they smoking ciggs and stuff..??? Huh
wheelrite Offline
#483 Posted:
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They're a bunch of commie Dickheads
HockeyDad Offline
#484 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
were they smoking ciggs and stuff..??? Huh


Nope. They were just sitting around enjoying the weather. Except the three that were walking the sidewalk with signs. (Those could have been homeless people that they outsourced to)

I did see on their website that they were planning an "Occupy" protest at the county jail because a couple more of them got busted. I'm not sure taking the protest to the jail is the best idea.
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#485 Posted:
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Obama will bail them out.... with our tax dollars of course... Mellow
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#486 Posted:
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Posts: 46,160
Michelle Obama is actually in town today.

She is here for a re-election fundraiser and has no time on her schedule for Occupy Tampa.
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#487 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
HockeyDad wrote:
Michelle Obama is actually in town today.

She is here for a re-election fundraiser and has no time on her schedule for Occupy Tampa.


She's occupying a Tampon
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#488 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,160
She's occupying a mansion on Davis Island where some millionaire real estate developer is hosting the fund raiser.

She is enjoying a nice evening conversing with 1%ers!

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#489 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,559
are they serving hot wings..?? Huh
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#490 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,160
The menu will not be announced to 99%ers.
DrafterX Offline
#491 Posted:
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Posts: 98,559
I bet she's already eaten like 70 of them.... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#492 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,160
DrafterX wrote:
I bet she's already eaten like 70 of them.... Mellow



People? Damn zombies.
tailgater Offline
#493 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
HockeyDad wrote:
Michelle Obama is actually in town today.

She is here for a re-election fundraiser and has no time on her schedule for Occupy Tampa.


I hope her new lifestyle as the first "lady" has improved her opinion of America.
I mean, we wouldn't want her not to be proud.

She is a vile and disgusting person.


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#494 Posted:
Joined: 03-20-2011
Posts: 11,350
MikeyRavioli wrote:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_hell_kitchen_i5biNyYYhpa8MSYIL9xSDL

Well, it seems that the same people who think its unjust the way wealth is distributed don't feel the same way about their donated food.



This is just what I would expect from the squatters, want,want but I'm not giving sh1t! Hypocrites.
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#495 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
MikeyRavioli wrote:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/zuccotti_hell_kitchen_i5biNyYYhpa8MSYIL9xSDL

Well, it seems that the same people who think its unjust the way wealth is distributed don't feel the same way about their donated food.



Wealth distribution? Like the hundreds of billions of breaks and money given to corporations each year? Yeah, hate that. Taking from us and giving it to for profit industry. Capitalism? Hardly. Bought and paid for immoral governments do stuff like that and then demonize the poor and sick as being all lazy and not worthy of our attention.
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#496 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
I let squeegy guys clean my windshield while I steal his malt liquor.
dubleuhb Offline
#497 Posted:
Joined: 03-20-2011
Posts: 11,350
Yes I hate lazy people, sue me.
FuzzNJ Offline
#498 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
dubleuhb wrote:
Yes I hate lazy people, sue me.


Sue you for being hateful? Naw. It will just eat you up and give you a disease. Much worse than a lawsuit.
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#499 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
ZRX1200 wrote:
I let squeegy guys clean my windshield while I steal his malt liquor.


Sometimes I put double sided tape on my palm so when I put my hand in the church collection tray I can make a withdrawal.




- Just kidding – I don’t go to church . . . .
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#500 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,559
Brewha wrote:
Sometimes I put double sided tape on my palm so when I put my hand in the church collection tray I can make a withdrawal.








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