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Chick-fil-A Under Siege by ....
teedubbya Offline
#1201 Posted:
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Zrx careful. Rahman could pull out some of his israeli death balet on yo ass.

Mayors have become very powerful as of late.
HockeyDad Offline
#1202 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Huckabe is a politician and more connected than virtually any mayor in the country. Wgaf about mayors. My cousin is a mayor who really likes chick-fil-a and would welcome them in.

If you really believe only one side of the aisle is driving this you are a foo.




What political office does he hold. I thought he was a private citizen.
victor809 Offline
#1203 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Boycott is done by people not spending money (maybe protesting).


NOT refusing permits by gov't officials based on political reasons.


LHD did in fact PWNED you yet again. He texted me thar he's singing Shaquille O'Neils famous "Tell me how my azz tastes" but hoping you don't extrapolate that to the wrong conclusion too.


It's been said before that IF the mayors refuse permits, they are likely to be sued by the ACLU. The mayors are toothless in this case.
teedubbya Offline
#1204 Posted:
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As you know he no longer holds office but you also know he is still very plugged in and may run again. Same for Palin et.al. And they unabashadly hold themselves out as rrpresenting the rigjt They are political and are representing/shaping one side/view.

If you are going to play the disingenuous game remember that when Jesse, Al gore, Sharpten etc act up. We will institute a new rule that only folks holding office are considered politicians.
DrafterX Offline
#1205 Posted:
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Think
If I eat a chicken sammich I have to hate JCP..??? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#1206 Posted:
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Not gonna edit cause the mobile version sucks.
teedubbya Offline
#1207 Posted:
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I hate jcp but love lesbos.
victor809 Offline
#1208 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Don't even try with the whole "I more intelligent elitist" angle. It is not becoming on you nor believable.

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

Once you created the distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version about the JCP boycott, you skipped right over attacking it and plugged it right into your double standard.

You got caught.


And since I never ignored the original argument, but used the boycott as supporting evidence, it isn't a strawman argument.
ZRX1200 Offline
#1209 Posted:
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It's been rumored they will.


Once again straw man it hasn't happened yet.


So much effort to make people here look the way you want them to, while they can just let you type for the same effect.
victor809 Offline
#1210 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Go top the JCP thread Victor ...........


Can't find one right now, may not exist. But as rumsfeld said, "the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence." :)

victor809 Offline
#1211 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
It's been rumored they will.


Once again straw man it hasn't happened yet.


So much effort to make people here look the way you want them to, while they can just let you type for the same effect.


Oh come on... you tell me then, where did you stand on the boycotting of JCP?
teedubbya Offline
#1212 Posted:
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It all goes back to if you ignore or discount all the variables that contradict my view then you suck and I win.

The very argument that this all occurred in a vacuum and the lefties made a big issue out of it while the right had nothing to do with it does just that.

I consider it normal politics and I like it. When someone can look into the camera and say something they know (and everyone else knows) is inaccurate it's a beatific thing.
HockeyDad Offline
#1213 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
As you know he no longer holds office but you also know he is still very plugged in and may run again. Same for Palin et.al. And they unabashadly hold themselves out as rrpresenting the rigjt They are political and are representing/shaping one side/view.

If you are going to play the disingenuous game remember that when Jesse, Al gore, Sharpten etc act up. We will institute a new rule that only folks holding office are considered politicians.



Those guys aren't politicians. They're media whores. So is Huckybee. So is Palin. There is nothing disingenuous about it. None have any actual governmental power unlike mayors who state they will block the delicious sammiches of Chick-Fil-A.

You need to find an actual elected official who is offering Chick-Fil-A a bypassed permit process to counter the gay-homo militant extremist collaborator mayors. I do not know of any right now.
teedubbya Offline
#1214 Posted:
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I hate the iPhone keypad.
HockeyDad Offline
#1215 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
And since I never ignored the original argument, but used the boycott as supporting evidence, it isn't a strawman argument.



Except you used the boycott as supporting evidence only after you substituted a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

If I am correct, I do believe you have not yet located that JCP thread yet.

Complete strawman.
DrafterX Offline
#1216 Posted:
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Boycott the IPhones..!! ram27bat
HockeyDad Offline
#1217 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Oh come on... you tell me then, where did you stand on the boycotting of JCP?




I don't even recall it! Fricking prole store anyway.
teedubbya Offline
#1218 Posted:
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Hd you do not define what I need to find or not. You may want to but you don't.

Those are politicians and are constantly either running for an office or leveraging political power. Most even have PACs. Under your narrow view Romney isn't a politician because he holds no office and hasn't for a long time. It's silly.

Perhaps we should stop calling Palin, Romney and Huckabe governor.

HockeyDad Offline
#1219 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
The very argument that this all occurred in a vacuum and the lefties made a big issue out of it while the right had nothing to do with it does just that.



Who started the whole Chick-Fil-A argument? Gay-homo militant extremists.
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#1220 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Hd you do not define what I need to find or not. You may want to but you don't.

Those are politicians and are constantly either running for an office or leveraging political power. Most even have PACs. Under your narrow view Romney isn't a politician because he holds no office and hasn't for a long time. It's silly.

Perhaps we should stop calling Palin, Romney and Huckabe governor.




You can define it however you want but the basic fact is the people you cited have absolutely no governing authority. It doesn't equate to actual mayors making actual threats to abuse their power as elected officials.

Romney wants to be a politician again but isn't going to be.

I don't call any of them governor. Why would someone do that? They're ex-governors. Heck, Palin even quit.
teedubbya Offline
#1221 Posted:
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No actually a combination of a statement from the owner of chick fil a along with other variables that we want to ignore as well as the gay homo militants.

Neither side owns the high ground on this but the both claim to.

By the way, I think a little poking around will find sitting office holders capitulating to poor il chick fil a (the winner in this marketing bonanza)
teedubbya Offline
#1222 Posted:
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A quick look will find what you are looking for hd. More powerful than mayors yet none of them have any real power to back up their posturing including the two doofus mayors.

By the way it's proper to call them governor but I'm with you on not doing so.
teedubbya Offline
#1223 Posted:
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So Romney is not a politician.
HockeyDad Offline
#1224 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:

By the way, I think a little poking around will find sitting office holders capitulating to poor il chick fil a (the winner in this marketing bonanza)



Well poke around then or is this just a data point?! I would think the liberal media would be reporting this. I would think they're out hunting for it.

Make no doubt that Chick-Fil-A won huge on this whole thing and the gay-homo militant extremists got punched in the throat. ....but Chick-Fil-A didn't start it.
DrafterX Offline
#1225 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
and the gay-homo militant extremists got punched in the throat. ....



The ones in the muppet suits..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#1226 Posted:
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Just check fox news for a list of the representatives. It'd easy peasy. Then you can progress to the senators etc.

Those are sitting in office but that is not what I said when referencing Huckabe.

I said politicians which sometimes are in office, sometimes are out, sometimes are currently running, sometimes are not.

Romney is a politician. Palin is too. So is Gore etc.

What are you trying to do? Don't we have enough straw men?

HockeyDad Offline
#1227 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
So Romney is not a politician.



Romney is a globalist big businessman who is narcissistic enough that he wants to become an elected official again but you could apply the "politician" label to him by definition because he is seeking public office.

I would not go so far with Huckybee and Palin. If you take the definition to include anyone who is politically active, everyone who posted on this thread becomes a politician.
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#1228 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Just check fox news for a list of the representatives. It'd easy peasy. Then you can progress to the senators etc.




I am aware of the list. What special treatment have they given to Chick-FIl-A in response to three mayors promising to ban them from their cities?
teedubbya Offline
#1229 Posted:
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This didn't just start. That fight has been simmering for a long time. Thus is a flashpoint though. The militant gay homos and chic fil a have been hounding at it for awhile. The question and answer were not random happenstance.
teedubbya Offline
#1230 Posted:
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What have the mayors actually done other than shoot their mouths off?
HockeyDad Offline
#1231 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I said politicians which sometimes are in office, sometimes are out, sometimes are currently running, sometimes are not.

Romney is a politician. Palin is too. So is Gore etc.




That is the loosest definition of a politician. You and then are also politicians. We are not in office, not running for office, but are peddling a political opinion in public. (And Le HockeyDad is eating mor chikin!)
teedubbya Offline
#1232 Posted:
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Have been hounding? Effin auto correct.
HockeyDad Offline
#1233 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
What have the mayors actually done other than shoot their mouths off?



Publicly threatened to misuse their power as elected officials. (Normally that is reserved for when there are no cameras or recording devices)
teedubbya Offline
#1234 Posted:
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You actually beleive Romney is not a politician? That says enough for me.

And I've never stated sitting in office is the mark. I stated politicians on both sides are in this game and it's not just one.

Funny thing politics, when everyone agrees its boring and goes away. But when two sides clash its great fun
HockeyDad Offline
#1235 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
This didn't just start. That fight has been simmering for a long time. Thus is a flashpoint though. The militant gay homos and chic fil a have been hounding at it for awhile. The question and answer were not random happenstance.



The gay-homo militant extremists want sammiches on Sunday and will attempt to destroy religion to get it. There is no appeasing them.
teedubbya Offline
#1236 Posted:
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I don't condone the mayors comments. Both of those guys are ass wipes.

I'm just not going to pretend its one sided.
teedubbya Offline
#1237 Posted:
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Lol

Sunday sammich outrage!
victor809 Offline
#1238 Posted:
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Well Z, you never answered my question.

If there was a thread (I don't know because I wasn't hanging around here in Feb) it was deleted (not horribly unlikely since I'm sure fuzz would have posted on it), but since there is no longer one we'll have to do a real-time poll.

Z, do you support the JCP boycott by Million Moms?
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#1239 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
You actually believe Romney is not a politician? That says enough for me.



No. I said "you could apply the "politician" label to him by definition because he is seeking public office."

Don't make me have to go all pseudo-intellectual on you like Victor because of your reading comprehension.

victor809 Offline
#1240 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
You actually beleive Romney is not a politician? That says enough for me.



You know HD doesn't believe that. With him it's all smoke and mirrors. He's trying to get you to look a different direction while he diddles you.
victor809 Offline
#1241 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
No. I said "you could apply the "politician" label to him by definition because he is seeking public office."

Don't make me have to go all pseudo-intellectual on you like Victor because of your reading comprehension.




Just because the average forum poster on cbid reads at a 3rd grade level....
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#1242 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:

If there was a thread (I don't know because I wasn't hanging around here in Feb) it was deleted



Mellow

chances are we just didn't get the gay-homo militant extremist news feed.....
HockeyDad Offline
#1243 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Well Z, you never answered my question.

If there was a thread (I don't know because I wasn't hanging around here in Feb) it was deleted (not horribly unlikely since I'm sure fuzz would have posted on it), but since there is no longer one we'll have to do a real-time poll.

Z, do you support the JCP boycott by Million Moms?




So there it is....There must have been a thread and it must have been deleted and it must have been FuzzNJ's fault.

Case closed, guilty as charged.
HockeyDad Offline
#1244 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Just because the average forum poster on cbid reads at a 3rd grade level....




That's the fault of the Democrat-mandated education system.
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#1245 Posted:
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Vic,

You're equating a religious boycott with a threat by a sitting Mayor?

And TW, you don't understand the difference between a politician in office versus one who has since moved on?
Word of advice: Don't watch Jerry Springer...
victor809 Offline
#1246 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
So there it is....There must have been a thread and it must have been deleted and it must have been FuzzNJ's fault.

Case closed, guilty as charged.


I never even said the thread existed, just that the same individuals support one boycott who are claiming to be under attack now. These groups are well documented in the news as taking both stances. Since 98.2% of our forum posters take their opinions directly from these groups, it's a pretty good bet where they stood during that time. Since I can't find a thread, I'm asking for real time information...
teedubbya Offline
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In office is your definition not mine. Recognize your straw man?
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#1248 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Vic,

You're equating a religious boycott with a threat by a sitting Mayor?

And TW, you don't understand the difference between a politician in office versus one who has since moved on?
Word of advice: Don't watch Jerry Springer...


Actually, a boycott is much more severe to a company.

Think about it for two seconds. The mayor of boston said that he doesn't want CFA in his city. Did CFA ever say they wanted to be in Boston? Is Boston next on their expansion plan? Is there any indication that they were even thinking of opening a franchise in boston? Unless there is, then his threat is absolutely meaningless and will remain so until his city becomes one they are interested in expanding to (at which time the mayors would likely have changed).

A boycott goes after real-time revenue. If successful it can have a severe impact on cashflow for a company.
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#1249 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I never even said the thread existed, just that the same individuals support one boycott who are claiming to be under attack now. These groups are well documented in the news as taking both stances. Since 98.2% of our forum posters take their opinions directly from these groups, it's a pretty good bet where they stood during that time. Since I can't find a thread, I'm asking for real time information...


You still presume a lot to fill in your predefined outcomes. I don't think any groups on Cbid are well documented in the news but I will see if I can find a CNN article on the Cbid JCP thread.

Meanwhile Crusaders are still putting chickens to the sword.
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teedubbya wrote:
In office is your definition not mine. Recognize your straw man?



I never misstated your position. I just pointed out that you and I are politicians under it as well.
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