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He probably won't post in this thread again.....stated he's tired of dancing.

You and Victor like leading too much TW.

his hootch is peirced??

That's why I've never asked a pierced hootch to dance with me.

We've got four more years ahead of us of rule by executive order, deficit spending and money-printing with no end in sight, with no reform coming for Social Security, Medicare and the tax system, and 8% unemployment and GDP stagnation as the new normal.

Next up: the fiscal cliff, with a president who has not at any time in the last four years shown any interest or ability in working in a bipartison fashion.

I did not write the piece, just thought it was an interesting, maybe shallow, but interesting none the less, however these lines ring very true to half the country.

Are the rest of us simple and the other half so smart, insightful and omnipotent then?

WOW...not one thing huh?

Obamacare was good from my perspective...feel free to disagree
Ending the war in Iraq was pretty cool...
Osama bin Laden wasn't too bad either...I'm guessing he gets no credit for that...
I could go on but those on the other side either discount it, disagree, or say it is just coincidence so why even bother...

And the fiscal cliff...that was supposedly and insurance policy to ensure that Congress would get off its ass and deal with the deficit/debt issues...man did that work well!

I say we should have a redo.... since the big O didn't do anything (not one thing) posative according to this open minded think tank. shirley there must be a problem with the election.

Not enough to cover the spread...SORRY!

On Obamacare, we disagree.
Ending the Iraq war was indeed cool.
Taking out OBL was awesome.

Additng $1T annually to our deficit?
Spending $1T on a "stimulus" that was laden with pork rather than projects that acutally added to the economy?
Creating the largest chasm that ever existed between parties?
Blaming his predecessor even after 4 years in office?
And if we have to give credit for OBL (I do) then we have to assign blame for Benghazi (I do). And the Cover up.

When Dubya was in office, the left hated him with every ounce of their being.
I don't hate Obama. He seems like a nice guy.
He is just woefully ill-equipped to be the President. He proved it for 4 years. I'm afraid of the next 4.

What I can't understand is how the GOP/people in general can blame the debt/deficit on Obama when we (the USA) has been running the longest war in our history AND doing it for the first time in history WITHOUT raising revenue??? Obama has been asking from day one to raise taxes to address the issue and it has fallen upon deaf ears. If you want to blame the deficit on someone...blame it on the GOP!

As for the freebies, ALL spending bills go through the GOP controlled House of Representatives FIRST. That is where they are originated per our Constitution. Again, if you want to blame someone...GOP!

Stop yer bellyaching!!!

This proves it.
You were born yesterday.

Or at least within the past two years.
Either that, or your dimentia limits your memory to a 700 day cycle thereabouts.

Obama entered with a fully stocked Democratic House AND Senate.
He was at the helm for two full seasons with said virtual-monocracy.

that's what I heard....

Ok fellers the ol redneck shine maker is back. GOOD MORNING.............dancing with victor wore me out. After reading my OP I can see where it seemed a tad vague. Sometimes whats in my head does not make it to my fingers and believe it or not my ol brain still works faster than this ol man can type. My daughter says I'm very random whatever that means. My intent was not to pose a leading or loaded question. It was to understand why the left thinks the way they do, not about specifics but in general, why they think the socialistic path we are on would be better than the free republic we are suppose to be living under. There were several who attempted to answer that, I thank you, but others were very condescending. Please don't make assumptions about what I am saying or asking just heartfelt answers. I love this country dearly even with all its faults. I love everything it stands for, freedom for everyone to have an opinion and to be able to openly express such without fear. Yes there are many crooked lying big corps. and there are many who are too pissin lazy to work and just want the nanny state. Yes we have been in too many wars and yes there are way too many in the gov. give a way line in all forms. I am trying to understand though how government redistribution of wealth would make things better. In my mind all that will do is take away any desire to work harder and eventually make us a dependant society. Hence my op. Those are this ol shine makers heartfelt ideas, would still love to hear some of yours why you think the socialistic path would be better.

I've never met anyone that wanted to go on a socialistic path rather than be a free republic. Can't help you.

the question was fine... Victor was just looking for a reason not to answer it....

I do have a serious question

Since all Protestants are willingly signing a pact with the devil and choosing not to take the path towards god that can only be accomplished through Catholocisim, what drives you to hate god, reject Jesus and kill babies and stuff?

so now only Catholics are going to heaven..?? the Seventh Day Aventists told me they were the only ones going.....

too late drafter. go woship hale bop or whatever it is you do.

They are the idiots that thought aliens (or something like that) were on the back side of the hale bop comet so took their lives.... I think by drinking grape kool aid but I could be wrong. Google it. It's interesting.

or a HOF celtic?

We're on a free republic path that chose socialistic. The only question remaining is socialist lite or socialist heavy.

Why on earth would you think I want people dying in the streets. Life to me is sacred, all life, from the unborn to the old folks like myself. Its pretty obvious to me after 40 plus years of all sorts of social programs desighned to alleviate that problem it has not worked. I guess if you consider success being more and more people on the gov. payroll and all the red tape with very little of the money going to fix the real issue, then it is all good. We all care deeply about people dying and going hungry, I guess our approach to fix the problem is the big difference. I volunteer my time and what little resources I have to help here on the local level. I take food and money to the local food banks our church also has a fund set up just for that very thing. We are a pretty small group, 150 people but we give thousands of dollars every year locally to help in many diff. ways. We have Drs. and Dentists who donate their time and expertise at the local rescue mission all without gov. intervention and no strings attached. Just humans helping other humans. This is not a look at me thing its just, what I feel is a better much more efficiant use of of our dollars. The government just by nature cannot do that. It is the joy one gets from helping others in need, voluntarilly, not being told by someone else how they are going to take my funds and use them as they see fit.

the Orca or Geddy Lee version?

I hate having to see the homeless. It clutters up nice downtown areas. Pretty much just like pigeons.

The foolishness highlighted in both of the #190 postings is the same;
They take complex social matters and reduce them to simple black and white ideas.

Our country needs a mix of capitalism and socialism. We need strong cut throat businesses and free roads and education – it’s a mix, a balancing act. And it needs constant maintenance as the winds of change blow. This is pretty simple, and yet hear the cries of ‘socialism’ like it were bubonic plague, or the boast of being ok if ‘homeless die in the streets’.

Transcend Dualism? But then how would we know who the bad guys are?
Kids, these days . . . . .