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I thought he was calling Obama an oreo....

where are Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder when we need them?

insensitive bassard


stevie would be feeling and listening for CROS

poor Stevie....

The government needs to do the helping so it can make sure it is done fairly.

I heard we wern't allowed to give the homeless food in NY cuse there might be too much fat or salt in the food.... this must be some of that gubment doing things correctly comes in...

Yes the government does have a roll in our society, infrastructure for example as you stated, things that benefit everyone to some extent. But they cannot and should not be in the buisiness of dictating moral and social actions, other than to keep us safe. Laws and such. It is the kindess and love in our hearts that will fix our homeless and hunger problem.

ya, fat homeless people are the worst....

So you're okay with gay marriage, contraception, abortion etc etc?

Gay marriage is an affront to Chick-Fil-A.

I'm still chewing on the rubbery facts that there are reputable hip specialists making 600k doing assembly line surgery & that they still have to pay over 100k per year in liability insurance.
That and that paying over $1,000 in monthly health premiums with high deductibles is not a bad deal...


Someone, please pass the gas hose & close the garage door on the way out.
So long bizarro world!

and bloody's premium should go up du8e to his risky sexual behavior

Victor, as I stated above I believe in the sanctity of life, all life, an unborn chid cannot defend itself, so no I cannot abide abortion. Contraception is none of my business. I do believe in tradional marriage between a man and a woman, however, again that is not my business nor my place to judge.

Well, it is not capitalism. It is ‘social ownership’. What would you call it?

Ok, so when I was a younger man I argued that I should not have to pay school tax on my home. I had no children. Why should big brother take my money and redistribute to educate the kids of those people that don’t even own homes?
The reason of course, is for the common good. We all have a responsibility to educate the young - Even the selfish misanthrope who would allow a man to die in the street.

Complain if you will about how good we as a people at spending the money. But don’t shirk responsibility and call it freedom.

I wonder what percentage of our workforce is made up by healthcare providers and support and how will they be affected....

So legalizing gay marriage is something you'd vote for? (if it were alone on a ballot)

Why do we all have such a responsibility? Biblical....government mandated....to keep them from killing us with pitchforks?

Well, checkers does sell more than chess . . . .

What about contraception and abortion?

I don't want to pay for either one. End of story.
They are both elective, and therefore the cost should be the responsiblity of the person themselves.

But the dumb ass liberals simply don't understand this.
They claim that they are denied "access".
Friggin good-for-nothing leaches.

The question was a tie in to his statement about not wanting any government involvement in morals. The question was only to make sure he consistently applied his statements. T

I saw the context.
I commented because it was unrelated.

Don't know who Bobby is- assume you meant me, Lefty. lol
Yes, its a mess & yes, it's partly due to high liability due to unwarranted malpractice lawsuits... but as an owner of a company and having two special needs kids I, like you with your hip replacement, have had first hand experience with (actuarial health) costs vs. coverage vs. exclusions over the past 25+ years. At first, we began to shop it around but almost inevitably the premiums would rise whether or not we used our policy. Our deductibles began at about $200 per individual with 80/20 coverage ($1,000 cap per family). Now it's a $5k deductible (with $10k family cap) and the premiums are about 6x higher having soared approx. 25-30% every year. Dental & vision has long been dropped & is no longer automatically included in our BC/BS coverage.

I don't even want to go into what is excluded by those idiots but suffice to say insurance carriers favor psychotropic drugs pushed by Pharma & the FDA that mask symptoms over nutritional and other trail blazing alternatives that are not as destructive (and addictive).

In the meantime, most doctors, with the exception of brain & plastic surgeons AND your hip specialist, are making a pittance of what they used to... many belong to HMO's, PPO's, etc. and/or rely on Medicare/Medicaid to supplement their practices with those stingy coverages (payment schedules). And you're correct, their liability insurance has also risen astronomically. I remember my father paying over 50k per year despite only having one questionable lawsuit brought against him over a 35+ year private practice career.

So you have to ask yourself, who, besides the aforementioned specialists & occasional ambulance chaser, is making the money? Btw, those lawyers are not always looking to make a fast buck at the expense of an "innocent" doctor. Some physicians are very inept & apt to take the safe route with rote remedies instead of attacking an illness aggressively. Then again, you could argue, that that safe/lame behavior was mitigated by fear of lawsuits... But to answer my own question, I believe it's insurance executives who are hauling the bulk of doe. Their bonuses/salaries are based on how many claims they deny. The key is to fight them after the initial rejection but that takes it's till in time and money. They rip off the insured AND vendors whether it's a hospital or a diaper supplier.

I could go on and on like some windbags but I have matters to take care of in the office and besides, most of us are set in our ways and not liable to change our minds after sparring on a cigar board. No hard feelings either way.

Curious as to how a conservative came up with leftyposthole however... lol

You need to have hope.

HIATUS!


They're on hiatus!

Dude, I don't know who you've been talking to but everyone who works in healthcare is not in it to take care of people...they are in it for the money. That is why healthcare costs are going up on an average of 8-17% per year for the last several years (yes, even before Clinton, Bush, AND Obama). Tort reform would help, but only a little. Drug pricing would definitely help, but again only a little. Price fixing or competition of specialists would help...you get the trend here? The idea is that the whole system is broken. The system was bleeding money out of every pore and it needed a tourniquet solution...Other countries have this problem figured out...why not learn from them??? Is it soo bad to just admit that someone might have a better idea than we do? It worked in Massachusetts, Germany, France, Japan and just about every other industrialized nation...why can't it work here?