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My understanding - The union workers did not agree to the pay cuts, and changes in health and retirement benefits. But all other non-union workers did agree to the same pay cut. So 5,000 union workers cost the other 13,500 non-union workers their job, plus the closure.

I'm pretty sure that's what I said.

cacman already pointed out the flaws in your argument, but let me reiterate. Non-union workers, as well as The Teamsters already agreed to the new terms, so my original numbers are spot on. Five thousand who refused to compromise in a time of economic downturn (thanks to our gracious President), cost 13,500 of their fellow workers their jobs. But, got to defend the union at all costs, no matter who suffers. Wonder what the Teamsters who lost their jobs think of the Baker's Union?

Oh, and if we ask the rich to pay just a little bit more, it’s going to fix the deficit. HAAAA! The crap you libs swallow is a freak’n riot!!!!!!!!! But America has spoken. 52% of voters love to swallow crap.

You mean like the way unions keep killing companies and don't learn from the lesson?

it sounds like the industry is over capacity anyway. stupd time to strike, but maybe just hurrying things along

78% of statistics are made up on the spot.

well maybe the labor union would take a pay cut......oh I see what you did there. You led me into that trap.

^Naive.

seems to be a lot of twink lovers in here. yall know more about it than me

no I didn't...


speaking of twinks how are ya HD?

Le HockeyDad is doing just fine. I was at a grocery store today and there were no Twinkies. I assume they are pulling them off the shelves due to the risk of the union members poisoning the product.

You will pay the price for energy and like it. The dollar is doing just fine. it is devaluing in line with most other currencies.

You're right.
I guess those "top 10 people" are the stupid ones.
They're giving up $Millions each year just to make a point.
They'd rather close the joint down then take a measley 1% decrease!!
They're closing the door just to spite the union. They're thowing away hundreds of millions, but man will they ever show that union!

sd is right!!


Or maybe he's not...

If it were a non-union company, they would just do it, and it wouldn't make the news.
And the company would be in business. And ALL the people would be getting paychecks.
You forgot to connect the dots, sd.

Corporate profits are at an average all time high.
Except, of course, the profits at Hostess. Where they closed the doors.

I hate when the damn facts get in the way of union logic.

They stick letters in fire, heat them up, and then hammer them out into words.

What the hell are you talking about, sd72?
No really.

You're totally off topic. Perhaps you should have a Twinkie to get your sugar count up a bit.

Is that your impression of corporate America today?

For every company that behaves like this, I'll show you a company that DOES take care of their employees.
I know, because I worked for some. And now I sell to more than few.
Good people. Good companies.

Even in this instance. Look at the numbers. If the CEO of Hostess gave up a full year of pay, they'd still be closing the doors.

to many twinkie makers not enough twinks.

Your autobiography should be entitled Drafter: King of the twinks.

I am not hairy, by the way.

he must go by Hank. sorry

And actually a supervisor, so shoulders not all that broad.

How could they?

Get ‘em while you can.

The impending shutdown of Hostess Brands and its iconic snacks led to an online surge of would-be buyers seeking to get their hands on Twinkies before its too late.

As of midday Friday, nearly 900 items for sale on eBay were Twinkie-related, including single-size snacks, unsealed boxes and even lunchboxes, baseball cards and magnets. One seller in North Carolina even set a price of $5,000 for a single Twinkie.

“The news is out,” the listing reads. “Hostess Brands Inc. has filed for bankruptcy and has decided to end productions of their snack cakes. This is your opportunity to own a piece of history, a delicious piece at that. You are bidding on a single Twinkies that will be protectively packaged and shipped to the winning bidder.”

Sellers were also offering other Hostess icons, including a box of Ho Ho’s for $59.99, a Wonderbread golf ball for $5.99 and “one of the last boxes” of Hostess cupcakes for a whopping $100,000 despite their Nov. 27 expiration date.

Another seller in Texas is asking an eye-popping $250,000 for one box of 10 Twinkies.

“Item will be insured and picked up locally after payment in full,” the listing reads. “This is a great collectors [sic] item that can be passed down to family members and will only gain in value!”

Hostess Brands Inc., the maker of iconic childhood treats including Ding Dongs, Wonder Bread and Drakes, announced Friday it will wind down its operations after struggling to keep up with rising labor costs and the ever-changing tastes of Americans, who have grown accustomed to a dizzying array of new snacks flooding supermarket aisles every year.

The company, whose roster of brands date as far back as 1888, filed a motion to liquidate Friday with U.S. Bankruptcy Court after striking workers across the country crippled its ability to maintain production.

Hostess CEO Greg Rayburn said in an interview that there was no buyer waiting in the wings to rescue the company. But without giving details, he said that there has been interest in some of its 30 brands, which include Dolly Madison and Nature's Pride snacks. Experts agreed that it was likely the biggest brands would survive.


Film at 11......