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rumraider Offline
#201 Posted:
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snowwolf777 wrote:
I am truly sorry you lost your "skilled trades" job on the cream-filler machine.Flapper I will have a tough time sleeping tonight knowing I don't have your respect.


Aw dude, didn't you hear? It was in all the union chat-rooms! I was working too hard and over-filling the spongy goodness. It made everybody else look bad so they talked shat about me. I hate them. Management loves me so much though, they made up a "regional safety manager" job where I could slow down other people instead. I turned it down but they begged me to stay. Now I have plenty of time to go on the internet and make up stories which inflate my self-importance.
Cheap booze will help you sleep Beer
bloody spaniard Offline
#202 Posted:
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rumraider wrote:
Aw dude, didn't you hear? It was in all the union chat-rooms! I was working too hard and over-filling the spongy goodness. It made everybody else look bad so they talked shat about me. I hate them. Management loves me so much though, they made up a "regional safety manager" job where I could slow down other people instead. I turned it down but they begged me to stay. Now I have plenty of time to go on the internet and make up stories which inflate my self-importance.
Cheap booze will help you sleep Beer




You say that like it's a bad thing??Confused
rfenst Offline
#203 Posted:
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Posts: 39,459
rest wrote:
My guess is that it is just a threat/negotiating tool to get union cooperation or the BK court's authorization to dissolve the labor agreement (contract). Wonder Bread, Merita and Hostess are brands and recipes that have their own significant value in and of themselves


Twinkies maker Hostess lives at least another day


WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. (AP) — Twinkies will live to see another day.

Hostess Brands Inc. and its second largest union agreed on Monday to try to resolve their differences after a bankruptcy court judge noted that the parties hadn't gone through the critical step of private mediation. That means the maker of the spongy cake with the mysterious cream filling won't go out of business yet.

The news comes after the maker of Ho Ho's, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread last week moved to liquidate and sell off its assets in bankruptcy court. Hostess cited a crippling strike started on Nov. 9 by the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union, which represents about 30 percent of Hostess workers.

"Many people, myself included, have serious questions as to the logic behind this strike," said Judge Robert Drain, who heard the case in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in the Southern District of New York in White Plains, N.Y. "Not to have gone through that step leaves a huge question mark in this case."

The mediation talks are set to take place Tuesday, with the liquidation hearing set to resume on Wednesday if an agreement isn't reached. Jeff Freund, an attorney for the bakers union, said any guess as to how the talks will go would be "purely speculative."

In an interview following the hearing, Hostess CEO Gregory Rayburn said that there is enormous financial pressure to come to an agreement with the union by the end of the day Tuesday.


He noted that it's costing Hostess about $1 million a day in payroll costs alone to stay alive, with the money mostly going toward management to unwind the company. About 18,000 workers were sent home Friday after the company shuttered its 33 plants, meaning no sales are being generated.

"We didn't think we had a runway, but the judge just created a 24-hour runway," said Rayburn, who added that even if a contract agreement is reached, it's unclear whether all Hostess plants will get up and running again.

Hostess, weighed down by debt, management turmoil, rising labor costs and the changing tastes of Americans, decided on Friday that it no longer could make it through a conventional Chapter 11 bankruptcy restructuring. Instead, the company, which is based in Irving, Texas, asked the court for permission to sell its assets and wind down its business.

The company, which is in its second bankruptcy in less than a decade, had said that it was saddled with costs related to its unionized workforce. It brought on Rayburn as a restructuring expert in part to renegotiate its contract with labor unions.

Hostess, which had been contributing $100 million a year in pension costs for workers, offered workers a new contract that would've slashed that to $25 million a year, in addition to wage cuts and a 17 percent reduction in health benefits. The baker's union rejected the offer and decided to strike.

By that time, Hostess had reached a contract agreement with its largest union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, which urged the bakers union to hold a secret ballot on whether to continue striking. Although many workers in the bakers union decided to cross picket lines this week, Hostess said it wasn't enough to keep operations at normal levels.

Rayburn said that Hostess was already operating on razor thin margins and that the strike was the final blow. The bakers union said the company's demise was the result of mismanagement, not the strike. It pointed to the steep raises executives were given last year as the company was spiraling down toward bankruptcy.

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I have said it before and will say it again: BK Judges are the most powerful in the land. They have the authority to do what they want and have their own U.S. Marshals under their direct control, as well as all the help they want from the FBI, Treasury, CIA, etc.
jnichols Offline
#204 Posted:
Joined: 07-27-2012
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Now the twinki opportunist's will be stuck
Brewha Offline
#205 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
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With the fate of America's favorite cream filled cake hanging in the ballance, a hush fall over the great 57 states.

Will our great Twinkie fail into oblivion? Or will it become another Bimbo?

Stay tuned. Your Twinkle hangs in the ballance . . . . .
jnichols Offline
#206 Posted:
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ROTFLMAO thanks for that
rfenst Offline
#207 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
With the fate of America's favorite cream filled cake hanging in the ballance, a hush fall over the great 57 states.

Will our great Twinkie fail into oblivion? Or will it become another Bimbo?

Stay tuned. Your Twinkle hangs in the ballance . . . . .



You know damn well that your post is of greater substance than many of the posts here.
Brewha Offline
#208 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
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rfenst wrote:
You know damn well that your post is of greater substance than many of the posts here.

Thank you Mr. Fenst.

I recon it takes a steady eye to follow the true path of our one and only yellow cream filled cake snack. The gravity of the situation would make Einstein argue with Rosenburg.

You gotta love this country - cause I've been to some others . . . . .
DrafterX Offline
#209 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:

You gotta love this country - cause I've been to some others . . . . .



what did they call twinkies there..?? Huh
Numismaniac Offline
#210 Posted:
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jnichols wrote:
Now the twinki opportunist's will be stuck





no deal yet, brother, keep those short 2 day, e-bay listings going fellas!!!
Brewha Offline
#211 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,202
DrafterX wrote:
what did they call twinkies there..?? Huh


In Germany, they called them "Das Tvinkie". In Ireland, it's a "Royal with Cream".
In France, it's a "Le HockeyDad".
DrafterX Offline
#212 Posted:
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what do they call the Quarter-Pounder w/cheese..?? Huh
DrMaddVibe Offline
#213 Posted:
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Posts: 55,610
DrafterX wrote:
what do they call the Quarter-Pounder w/cheese..?? Huh



An Ethopian with a yeast infection!Angel
snowwolf777 Offline
#214 Posted:
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Posts: 4,082
rumraider wrote:
I have plenty of time to go on the internet and make up stories which inflate my self-importance.



I know you desperately want people to pay attention to you, but then the message needs to be edited so you don't lose folks.

I took care of this one, but I don't have time to do this for you on a routine basis, so please pay attention.Frying pan
sd72 Offline
#215 Posted:
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Someone might think you two were dating!
rumraider Offline
#216 Posted:
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Posts: 727
sd72 wrote:
Someone might think you two were dating!



It's a bad breakup. He's infatuated with me pumping cream but all he has to offer is bs.
sd72 Offline
#217 Posted:
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Hug it out. Or keep it to witty banter the mitt wits don't understand.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#218 Posted:
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sd72 wrote:
Hug it out. Or keep it to witty banter the mitt wits don't understand.



In other words...speak Kenyan!
sd72 Offline
#219 Posted:
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Do they have Rosetta Stone for Kenyan?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#220 Posted:
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sd72 wrote:
Do they have Rosetta Stone for Kenyan?



Yes...they use it to grind up those roots they put on wounds.
teedubbya Offline
#221 Posted:
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you twinks still talkin about this?
sd72 Offline
#222 Posted:
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Good one.
Brewha Offline
#223 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,202
DrafterX wrote:
what do they call the Quarter-Pounder w/cheese..?? Huh

I don't know, I didn't go into McDonald's.

But I did get a glass of beer at the movies . . . . .
teedubbya Offline
#224 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
what do they call the Quarter-Pounder w/cheese..?? Huh


half of one of your teste-cullies
DrafterX Offline
#225 Posted:
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Freak..... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#226 Posted:
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Fromunda cheese?


Not a pretty picture . . . .
DrafterX Offline
#227 Posted:
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Hostess Brands Inc. lived to die another day.

The maker of Twinkies and Ding Dongs said late Tuesday that it failed to reach an agreement with its second-biggest union. As a result, Hostess plans to continue with a hearing on Wednesday in which a bankruptcy court judge in White Plains, N.Y., will decide if the company can shutter its operations.

The renewed talks between Hostess and The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union came after the company declared last week that it would move to wind down its business and start selling off its assets in bankruptcy court. The company cited a crippling strike that was started on Nov. 9 by the union, which represents 30 percent of Hostess workers.

After making its case to liquidate on Monday, the bankruptcy court judge noted that the two sides hadn't yet tried resolving their differences through private mediation. The judge noted that 18,000 jobs were on the line and urged the company and union to try to resolve their differences. Both sides agreed to hold mediation proceedings on Tuesday.

In a statement late Tuesday, Hostess said it would not comment on the breakdown in talks other than to say that mediation "was unsuccessful." A lawyer for the bakers union said he had no comment, citing mediation ground rules.

Hostess shut down its three dozen plants late last week after it said the strike by the bakers union hurt its ability to maintain normal production. The union says the company's demise was the result of years of mismanagement, however, and that workers have already given steep concessions over the years.

Hostess, weighed down by management turmoil, rising labor costs and Americans' changing tastes, is making its second trip through Chapter 11 bankruptcy restructuring. The company, based in Irving, Texas, had brought on CEO Gregory Rayburn as a restructuring expert in part to renegotiate its contract with labor unions.

The company reached an agreement with its biggest union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, on a contract that dramatically reduced pension contributions, as well as slashing wages and health benefits. But the company said the bakers union stopped returning its calls about a month ago.

The Teamsters urged the smaller union to hold a secret ballot on whether members wanted to continue striking. Many workers in the bakers union decided to cross picket lines last week but Hostess said it wasn't enough to keep operations at normal levels.

Teamsters General Secretary Ken Hall said the failure of the mediation talks Tuesday and the likely shuttering of the company was a "tragic outcome" for Hostess workers.

Rayburn said that Hostess was already operating on razor thin margins and that the strike was the final blow. The bakers union meanwhile pointed to the steep raises executives were given last year as the company was spiraling down toward bankruptcy.

The company's announcement last week that it would move to liquidate prompted a rush on Hostess treats across the country, with many businesses selling out of Twinkies within hours.

Even if Hostess goes out of business, its popular brands will likely find a second life after being snapped up by buyers. The company says several potential buyers have expressed interest in the brands. Although Hostess' sales have been declining in recent years, the company still does about $2.5 billion in business each year. Twinkies alone brought in $68 million so far this year.



Film at 11.... d'oh!
DadZilla3 Offline
#228 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Rayburn said that Hostess was already operating on razor thin margins and that the strike was the final blow. The bakers union meanwhile pointed to the steep raises executives were given last year as the company was spiraling down toward bankruptcy.


Hostess management voting themselves steep raises while the company circles the drain? Who the hell do they think they are...Congress?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#229 Posted:
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Tonight...they are as we know it...dead.horse
Brewha Offline
#230 Posted:
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Bimbo will bring them back to life.



Oooooow, zombafied twinkles!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#231 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Bimbo will bring them back to life.



Oooooow, zombafied twinkles!



Maybe Bain Capital will too!whip
Brewha Offline
#232 Posted:
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Oooooow, Chinese Twinkies!

Made and imported by sum dum gui.
DrafterX Offline
#233 Posted:
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I'm not buying twinkies I have to wipe cosmoline off of.... Not talking Not talking
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