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victor809 Offline
#151 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 4:43 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
So one source say 216 feet. One source says 16 inches, one source says 63 meters. Who to believe!?

Besides, 5000 years is a long time away. We would have to not nuke everything or get invaded by aliens to get that far.


Two sources estimate close to 200ft, and one Hockeydad says "16 inches"... Wow... there's just no way whatsoever to know the answer... RollEyes

Anyway, the math could be done pretty easily. We have volume estimates on the antarctic ice, greenland ice. We have area of the ocean. That's pretty easy. The only tricky part is how the area changes as the sea level rises, as more area becomes ocean. That can be modeled pretty easily. As the surface area is already close to 2/3 water, it likely won't have too much impact on the nubmers.

The calculations I've seen have been closer to the 200ft mark.

As for the 5000 years... yeah, who really cares about anything that far out. I'm simply trying to point out that the phrase "never gonna happen" is blatantly wrong 98.2% of the time.
HockeyDad Offline
#152 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 5:52 PM EST
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I've got many sources that say 16 inches of ocean rise.

Another factor not even considered is the extra water weight displacing the crust and causing the continents to rise at an accelerated rate. This could result in a sea level drop at least in certain regional cases.
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#153 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 6:08 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I've got many sources that say 16 inches of ocean rise.

Another factor not even considered is the extra water weight displacing the crust and causing the continents to rise at an accelerated rate. This could result in a sea level drop at least in certain regional cases.


Remember HD, we're talking about the navel gazing concept of "total glacier melt". Your "sources" may be calculating something different. Seeing as we've gotten a 7" rise in about 100 years, it's pretty unlikely that a full dump of all remaining ice into the oceans is only going to give us another 16". That would imply that close to 1/4 of the glaciers have already been melted.

As for extra water weight displacing the crust... you're suggesting we'll see an increase in ocean depth resulting in a raising of land continents in other areas... an interesting proposition. Certainly destructive, but interesting.
HockeyDad Offline
#154 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 6:31 PM EST
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We have not had a seven inch rise. My sources say we have had a two inch rise as we emerge from the last Ice Age
victor809 Offline
#155 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 6:41 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
We have not had a seven inch rise. My sources say we have had a two inch rise as we emerge from the last Ice Age


Well, you personally may have had a 2" rise, but a 7" rise is pretty much what the rest of the world has.

(see what I did there?)
HockeyDad Offline
#156 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 6:49 PM EST
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Like Asia could have a seven inch rise...

Nope. Gotta throw the BS flag.

It is all scare tactics to generate revenue and profit. Trillions to stop a few inches. It is the new military industrial complex.
victor809 Offline
#157 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 6:55 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Like Asia could have a seven inch rise...

Nope. Gotta throw the BS flag.

It is all scare tactics to generate revenue and profit. Trillions to stop a few inches. It is the new military industrial complex.


I'm throwing a BS flag on that. If you truly believed it was the new military industrial complex, you'd have invested heavily in it by now.
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#158 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 7:01 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
... you're suggesting we'll see an increase in ocean depth resulting in a raising of land continents in other areas... an interesting proposition. Certainly destructive, but interesting.


Does this mean that Guam will tip over ??

Anxious
HockeyDad Offline
#159 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 7:04 PM EST
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Who said I wasn't invested in it?
HockeyDad Offline
#160 Posted: Thu, May 29 2014, 7:11 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Does this mean that Guam will tip over ??

Anxious



Guam has tipped over twice. That is why it looks normal.
DrafterX Offline
#161 Posted: Fri, May 30 2014, 7:43 AM EST
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we need a BS Flag smiley... Mellow
cacman Offline
#162 Posted: Fri, May 30 2014, 8:45 AM EST
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So what does the global warming discussion have to do with Benghazi?
DrafterX Offline
#163 Posted: Fri, May 30 2014, 8:47 AM EST
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Benghazi is sinking into the ocean.... Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#164 Posted: Fri, May 30 2014, 10:00 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
So what does the global warming discussion have to do with Benghazi?


The inept handling of Benghazi is just too embarrassing.
HockeyDad Offline
#165 Posted: Fri, May 30 2014, 11:22 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
So what does the global warming discussion have to do with Benghazi?



There was no attack. The flames were caused by a localized global warming incident.
HockeyDad Offline
#166 Posted: Fri, May 30 2014, 11:24 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Benghazi is sinking into the ocean.... Mellow


America will as well if we don't get a handle on childhood obesity.
teedubbya Offline
#167 Posted: Fri, May 30 2014, 11:32 AM EST
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I heard the whole uprising was sparked by al gores global warming movie
DrafterX Offline
#168 Posted: Fri, May 30 2014, 12:32 PM EST
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Did al jezeera report that..??? Huh
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