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tonygraz Offline
#151 Posted:
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Either that or gummy is in some word of the day club.
frankj1 Offline
#152 Posted:
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gummy jones wrote:


i guess it all depends on what set of morals you follow.

and for those saying she has no right to object to homosexual "marriage" because she has had multiple marriages herself, I'm very happy that our rights persist regardless of whether we are a "good" person or not


um, no. it's more because she claims a holier than thou view of God and morality when it comes to marriage, but then has sex outside of marriage. That's what's called that a typical preachy hypocrite.
TMCTLT Offline
#153 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
um, no. it's more because she claims a holier than thou view of God and morality when it comes to marriage, but then has sex outside of marriage. That's what's called that a typical preachy hypocrite.



Sooooo I take it none of these homo / lesbian folks have had sex yet? Don't you find it hypocritical that our Houses of Congress starts each session with a prayer? Yet they can @ the same time let the Atheists have their way with an entire country? The federal government and it's courts had NO right getting involved in what should've been States Rights cases. Where are they when it comes to enforcing our 2nd Amendment right across the nation? It is only because we have elected officials and judges who are homosexuals and lesbians that this is being forced on an entire nation. This entire ****storm has been sold by NOT giving a voice to the countless millions who were/are NOT on board with this legislation, the only group who get a voice are those accusing everyone who doesn't agree with them of being bigots and haters etc. and that's just simply not true. Apparently you cannot have a differing opinion any longer in this country without extremists getting the liberal medias attention and flaming anyone involved. In fact I challenge ANY of you to find businesses in the country who had signage in their window stating that they DON'T SERVE GAYS, it was ONLY when it became their ( the rainbow coalition ) agenda and platform to FORCE anyone who didn't cheer their decision and CHOICE of a same sex mate that ALL HELL broke loose. And for all you cheerleaders who say she should be fired or jailed for her stand on breaking a law that should never have been THRUSTED on the American people to begin with and the media has certainly been complicit in this.
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#154 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
Sooooo I take it none of these homo / lesbian folks have had sex yet? Don't you find it hypocritical that our Houses of Congress starts each session with a prayer? Yet they can @ the same time let the Atheists have their way with an entire country? The federal government and it's courts had NO right getting involved in what should've been States Rights cases. Where are they when it comes to enforcing our 2nd Amendment right across the nation? It is only because we have elected officials and judges who are homosexuals and lesbians that this is being forced on an entire nation. This entire ****storm has been sold by NOT giving a voice to the countless millions who were/are NOT on board with this legislation, the only group who get a voice are those accusing everyone who doesn't agree with them of being bigots and haters etc. and that's just simply not true. Apparently you cannot have a differing opinion any longer in this country without extremists getting the liberal medias attention and flaming anyone involved. In fact I challenge ANY of you to find businesses in the country who had signage in their window stating that they DON'T SERVE GAYS, it was ONLY when it became their ( the rainbow coalition ) agenda and platform to FORCE anyone who didn't cheer their decision and CHOICE of a same sex mate that ALL HELL broke loose. And for all you cheerleaders who say she should be fired or jailed for her stand on breaking a law that should never have been THRUSTED on the American people to begin with and the media has certainly been complicit in this.

I wish you'd break long posts a little cuz then I might reply to more than I am going to now...

Your first sentence (...had sex yet) leads me to think you misunderstood my comment about the clerk having sex "outside of marriage". I did not mean before marriage, I meant with others WHILE married. Adultery. A moral transgression in her own religion. Who is this "sinner", this adulterer, to decide for others what is moral Christian behavior?

With that alone, she gets no sympathy as a law breaker standing hypocritically on religious and moral objections.

Random replies: you actually are allowed to have any differing opinion you'd like, even if it is that you believe some laws of the land are wrong. Unfortunately, you (and she) are not allowed to dispense justice as you see fit...or as you think the laws SHOULD be.

People who do not agree with the law are not bigots. But people who act to block fellow Americans from exercising their equal and protected rights are bigots. She fits that second category.

I am sorry Paul, I simply can't read another rambling rant and intelligently respond with my differing opinion unless you calm down and break it into a series of readable points.
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#155 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I wish you'd break long posts a little cuz then I might reply to more than I am going to nowYour first sentence (...had sex yet) leads me to think you misunderstood my comment about the clerk having sex "outside of marriage"I did not mean before marriage, I meant with others WHILE marriedAdultery A moral transgression in her own religionWho is this "sinner", this adulterer, to decide for others what is moral Christian behaviorWith that alone, she gets no sympathy as a law breaker standing hypocritically on religious and moral objectionsRandom replies: you actually are allowed to have any differing opinion you'd like, even if it is that you believe some laws of the land are wrongUnfortunately, you (and she) are not allowed to dispense justice as you see fitor as you think the laws SHOULD bePeople who do not agree with the law are not bigotsBut people who act to block fellow Americans from exercising their equal and protected rights are bigotsShe fits that second categoryI am sorry PaulIsimplycan'treadanotherramblingrantandintelligentlyrespondwithmydifferingopinionunlessyoucalmdownandbreakitintoaseriesofreadablepoints.


Crying
Oscar Offline
#156 Posted:
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Looks like Paully wants a christian theocracy.
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#157 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I wish you'd break long posts a little cuz then I might reply to more than I am going to now...

Your first sentence (...had sex yet) leads me to think you misunderstood my comment about the clerk having sex "outside of marriage". I did not mean before marriage, I meant with others WHILE married. Adultery. A moral transgression in her own religion. Who is this "sinner", this adulterer, to decide for others what is moral Christian behavior?

With that alone, she gets no sympathy as a law breaker standing hypocritically on religious and moral objections.

Random replies: you actually are allowed to have any differing opinion you'd like, even if it is that you believe some laws of the land are wrong. Unfortunately, you (and she) are not allowed to dispense justice as you see fit...or as you think the laws SHOULD be.

People who do not agree with the law are not bigots. But people who act to block fellow Americans from exercising their equal and protected rights are bigots. She fits that second category.

I am sorry Paul, I simply can't read another rambling rant and intelligently respond with my differing opinion unless you calm down and break it into a series of readable points.




First of all, my post is not difficult to " read " your just lazy apparently. Secondly, how do you know this woman had sex with " others " while married? And if.... As you say I misunderstood your post, perhaps it was " your post " and it's vague manner that confused me.
How is it that our courts under THIS administration was able to block or simply do away with a law regarding marriage ? Everyone in this country understood very clearly the meaning of " Marriage " and DOMA solidified it. Please don't misunderstand me, I don't care to tell someone who they can take up with or " love " but to use our courts under this president to redefine the meaning Of marriage IS dispensing law as it has seen fit. But that's nothing new under this administration, it's been ALL about correcting " Supposed Social Injustices "

These couples were / are free to go elsewhere to get hitched but it was never about actually " getting married " so much as forcing the entire country to knuckle under to " their view of things "

like I said in the previous post, how is it that even though we have an Amendment to our Constitution ( the 2nd ) that Guarantees our Right To Bear Arms that not every state has been FORCED to uphold it?

TMCTLT Offline
#158 Posted:
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Oscar wrote:
Looks like Paully wants a christian theocracy.



Looks like
I'm gonna have to block Little Oscar....to keep from getting ban hammered again

Looks like Oscarly wants a homosexual theocracy.....
tonygraz Offline
#159 Posted:
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Ostrich reflex ?
banderl Offline
#160 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
Secondly, how do you know this woman had sex with " others " while married?




Seems like you missed this part.


She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second. Davis worked at the clerk's office at the time of each divorce and has since remarried.



Jerry Springer material.
pdxstogieman Offline
#161 Posted:
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It's my firmly held religious belief that she should be ritually sacrificed by being thrown into a flaming abyss, or made to watch every episode of Modern Family. Her choice of punishment. If she's a true woman of principle, she'll choose the flaming abyss.
Speyside Offline
#162 Posted:
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As of Thursday she is in jail for contempt. Marriage liscences have been issued today.
gummy jones Offline
#163 Posted:
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DCLover wrote:
Is "statist" the new fox news buzzword?


as far as i know statism is has been around for quite sometime but yes, there seems to be a proliferation of statists in our current gov on both sides of the aisle

for the record i have nothing against fox news but am way to busy to watch tv. if they are using that term more maybe they have been reading my posts Angel
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#164 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
um, no. it's more because she claims a holier than thou view of God and morality when it comes to marriage, but then has sex outside of marriage. That's what's called that a typical preachy hypocrite.


lets say she is the worst person on the face of the earth...so what?

luckily being a hypocrite doesnt result in a loss of rights

victor809 Offline
#165 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
Sooooo I take it none of these homo / lesbian folks have had sex yet? Don't you find it hypocritical that our Houses of Congress starts each session with a prayer? Yet they can @ the same time let the Atheists have their way with an entire country? The federal government and it's courts had NO right getting involved in what should've been States Rights cases. Where are they when it comes to enforcing our 2nd Amendment right across the nation? It is only because we have elected officials and judges who are homosexuals and lesbians that this is being forced on an entire nation. This entire ****storm has been sold by NOT giving a voice to the countless millions who were/are NOT on board with this legislation, the only group who get a voice are those accusing everyone who doesn't agree with them of being bigots and haters etc. and that's just simply not true. Apparently you cannot have a differing opinion any longer in this country without extremists getting the liberal medias attention and flaming anyone involved. In fact I challenge ANY of you to find businesses in the country who had signage in their window stating that they DON'T SERVE GAYS, it was ONLY when it became their ( the rainbow coalition ) agenda and platform to FORCE anyone who didn't cheer their decision and CHOICE of a same sex mate that ALL HELL broke loose. And for all you cheerleaders who say she should be fired or jailed for her stand on breaking a law that should never have been THRUSTED on the American people to begin with and the media has certainly been complicit in this.


Dude... you need to learn to put in a paragraph break here or there.... this entire mess reads like you didn't take a breath through the entire thing.

And it seems like you're against having homosexual elected officials and judges? That's an interesting twist.

And anyone else find it funny that in his little rant against gays he feels an urge to capitalize "FORCE" and "THRUSTED"... kinda reads like a closet gay rape fantasy.
Oscar Offline
#166 Posted:
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I'm curious Paully, why do you think homosexuals should not have any rights in 'merica?
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#167 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
As of Thursday she is in jail for contempt. Marriage liscences have been issued today.



Good.
TMCTLT Offline
#168 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
Seems like you missed this part.


She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second. Davis worked at the clerk's office at the time of each divorce and has since remarried.



Jerry Springer material.


How long did her divorce take? By simple math if she were one month pregnant when she filed ( who knows why, maybe he beat her ) and it took three months to finalize the divorce....she would indeed delivered Five months later.

You know kind of like folks who " get pregnant " THEN get married so as to not have a child out of wedlock....happens all the time. He'll today I know for many that's even out the window. Jerry Springer material....is the mentally disturbed who were @ this clerks office screaming like infants having a temper tantrum.



pdxstogieman wrote:
It's my firmly held religious belief that she should be ritually sacrificed by being thrown into a flaming abyss, or made to watch every episode of Modern Family. Her choice of punishment. If she's a true woman of principle, she'll choose the flaming abyss.


See this is the kind of hateful crap you get out of the flaming liberals , typical.


victor809 wrote:
Dude... you need to learn to put in a paragraph break here or there.... this entire mess reads like you didn't take a breath through the entire thing.

And it seems like you're against having homosexual elected officials and judges? That's an interesting twist.

[h]And anyone else find it funny that in his little rant against gays he feels an urge to capitalize "FORCE" and "THRUSTED"... kinda reads like a closet gay rape fantasy.
[/



You seem to be overly qualified regarding these kinds of " fantasies" as you put it.
tonygraz Offline
#169 Posted:
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gummy jones wrote:
lets say she is the worst person on the face of the earth...so what?

luckily being a hypocrite doesnt result in a loss of rights



In this case it did.
frankj1 Offline
#170 Posted:
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gummy jones wrote:
lets say she is the worst person on the face of the earth...so what?

luckily being a hypocrite doesnt result in a loss of rights


But it does result in my resentment of her telling others "do as I say, not as I do". Better she shut up and continue to fornicate at will, followed undoubtedly by deep sorrowful meaningful prayer for forgiveness.

yes gum, I believe her rights are as valid as mine and yours. If I was unable to believe in that and even defend her rights despite disagreeing with her thoughts, then my rights would have no muscle behind them either. I know you understand from other posts.

And just like my rights end where yours begin, hers end where her gay constituents' rights begin.

Some clever poster will take advantage of the wording I used above and "end" will take on a different meaning.
frankj1 Offline
#171 Posted:
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[quote=TMCTLT]How long did her divorce take? By simple math if she were one month pregnant when she filed ( who knows why, maybe he beat her ) and it took three months to finalize the divorce....she would indeed delivered Five months later.

tell ya what, look into those math facts and let us know the deal...cuz it sounds like grasping at straws.
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#172 Posted:
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To me it comes down to this " All men are created equal ". Using the term men in the generic sense to include women also. When anyone tries to userp that I believe them to be wrong and unconstitutional.
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#173 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:


And anyone else find it funny that in his little rant against gays he feels an urge to capitalize "FORCE" and "THRUSTED"... kinda reads like a closet gay rape fantasy.


it really is hysterical.
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#174 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
As of Thursday she is in jail for contempt. Marriage liscences have been issued today.


Yup, there are five other clerks, one her son, is also refusing, but the others agreed to issue the license while their boss is in the slammer. Judge said as long as they get issued, he would overlook the son's refusal.
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pdxstogieman wrote:
It's my firmly held religious belief that she should be ritually sacrificed by being thrown into a flaming abyss, or made to watch every episode of Modern Family. Her choice of punishment. If she's a true woman of principle, she'll choose the flaming abyss.


[email protected] looks like we have another ISIS recruit. LOL
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#176 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
How long did her divorce take? By simple math if she were one month pregnant when she filed ( who knows why, maybe he beat her ) and it took three months to finalize the divorce....she would indeed delivered Five months later.

.




Yeah maybe all three of them beat her.

The second guy should have beat her even more.
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#177 Posted:
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In world news today, ISIS threw more gay people off buildings to their deaths, burned Christians alive and beheaded others.

In the US, pro gay rights movement members have called for jail, beatings and worse for a Christian woman that refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.
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#178 Posted:
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Seriously... how does that "new math" work? It wasn't the 1st guy's kid. It wasn't the 2nd guy's kid. It was the 3rd guy who she was having sex with while still married to the 1st guy (I'm pretty sure that violates a bible phrase or two).... then she got divorced (pretty sure that violates the sanctity of marriage, according to the bible)... THEN she married the 2nd guy (we don't know if she was having sex with him or not before marriage)... then she divorces again (another sanctified marriage being violated).... then marries the 3rd guy.

All of this she believes should be perfectly legal, despite it being against her religion.

but she is going to force her religious beliefs on someone else's marriage.
Gene363 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Seriously... how does that "new math" work? It wasn't the 1st guy's kid. It wasn't the 2nd guy's kid. It was the 3rd guy who she was having sex with while still married to the 1st guy (I'm pretty sure that violates a bible phrase or two).... then she got divorced (pretty sure that violates the sanctity of marriage, according to the bible)... THEN she married the 2nd guy (we don't know if she was having sex with him or not before marriage)... then she divorces again (another sanctified marriage being violated).... then marries the 3rd guy.

All of this she believes should be perfectly legal, despite it being against her religion.

but she is going to force her religious beliefs on someone else's marriage.


You are correct sir, it's all bad, just homosexuality. horse

Just in case, I'll remind you that all Christians are sinners, but they are forgiven. Pray
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Gene363 wrote:
You are correct sir, it's all bad, just homosexuality. horse

Just in case, I'll remind you that all Christians are sinners, but they are forgiven. Pray


Sinning and being forgiven by your god is absolutely 100% irrelevant in the law... you do realize that, right?

We don't let murderers go because they "are sinners, but they are forgiven"....
banderl Offline
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Bush appointed the judge that locked her up and repub presidents appointed 2 of the 3 judges that denied her appeal. Sounds to me that it's the repubs that have been persecuting this pitiful woman.

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victor809 wrote:
Sinning and being forgiven by your god is absolutely 100% irrelevant in the law... you do realize that, right?

We don't let murderers go because they "are sinners, but they are forgiven"....


You do realize she is being condemned for being a "hypocrite" on religious bases, not a legal one. Sounds like she followed the law about getting a divorce. The other shenanigans associated with the divorce are not, to my knowledge, illegal in the USA at this time.
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tonygraz wrote:
In this case it did.

Giddy up.
riverdog Offline
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pdxstogieman wrote:
It's my firmly held religious belief that she should be ritually sacrificed by being thrown into a flaming abyss, or made to watch every episode of Modern Family. Her choice of punishment. If she's a true woman of principle, she'll choose the flaming abyss.


I love this place.
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victor809 wrote:
Sinning and being forgiven by your god is absolutely 100% irrelevant in the law... you do realize that, right?

We don't let murderers go because they "are sinners, but they are forgiven"....


We let them go only AFTER they are forgiven.
Do try to keep up.

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#186 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
You do realize she is being condemned for being a "hypocrite" on religious bases, not a legal one. Sounds like she followed the law about getting a divorce. The other shenanigans associated with the divorce are not, to my knowledge, illegal in the USA at this time.


She's being condemned for being a hypocrite because when the law allows HER to violate her religious doctrines, she's okay with it. But when the law was changed to allow other people to violate HER religious doctrines, she had a hissy fit and refused to follow it.

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victor809 wrote:
She's being condemned for being a hypocrite because when the law allows HER to violate her religious doctrines, she's okay with it. But when the law was changed to allow other people to violate HER religious doctrines, she had a hissy fit and refused to follow it.



She could have stopped right there and been done, it was not allowing her subordinates to issue the licenses that got her in trouble. IMO, this would have solved the problem. Her 15 minutes of fame/martyrdom are going to include time in jail.

I just cannot wait until a muslim is in charge of issuing liquor licenses and business licenses for pork production businesses..
tailgater Offline
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I think she's an idiot.
I think she should be fired for not doing her job.
But it's scary as hell to know that she can be put in jail for this.

She doesn't deserve jail time.

If I thought the fat girl at Dairy Queen put too little syrup in my milkshake, I might argue. I might want her fired. but I could never expect her to be jailed.

this is a dangerous precedent.

banderl Offline
#189 Posted:
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She's an elected official, she can only be fired if she's convicted of a crime.
She could be impeached, wonder how long that process would take?
tailgater Offline
#190 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
She's an elected official, she can only be fired if she's convicted of a crime.
She could be impeached, wonder how long that process would take?


But people here are saying she's in jail?
Is this true?
banderl Offline
#191 Posted:
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She's in jail, but hasn't been found guilty of any crime.
banderl Offline
#192 Posted:
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Pretty sure that she is in civil not criminal contempt of court.
victor809 Offline
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I'm assuming the jail time is just until they can figure out how to oust her from her position.

anyone else find it weird how the county clerk position is apparently inherited there? Did I read correctly that her father was county clerk, and her kid is under her?
banderl Offline
#194 Posted:
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Her mother was clerk.
Sounds like Cook County.
tonygraz Offline
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If I was the judge, her son would also be in jail. I wonder if he is a **** ?
banderl Offline
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Here's some inside dope on the fiasco.


https://twitter.com/nexttokimdavis
victor809 Offline
#197 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
Here's some inside dope on the fiasco.


https://twitter.com/nexttokimdavis


That is amaze-balls.
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#198 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I'm assuming the jail time is just until they can figure out how to oust her from her position.

anyone else find it weird how the county clerk position is apparently inherited there? Did I read correctly that her father was county clerk, and her kid is under her?

no.
Her first, second, and third husbands were under her, but not in that order.
If her kid is under her, then she should be a registered sex offender...not gay, but rather a sex offender.
tailgater Offline
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She gets a lot of man meat for an ugly chick.
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tailgater wrote:
She gets a lot of man meat for an ugly chick.

well, I'm too classy to have said that, but now that the barn door has been left open...
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