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teedubbya Offline
#251 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 11:31 AM EST
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I guess the only repentance is to vote for Ted Cruz since he's the only true republican and stuff. He said so and his cult folks keep repeating him so it must be true. Plus he's on a mission from God and stuff. What could go wrong?
ZRX1200 Offline
#252 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 12:00 PM EST
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What specific policies of his do you hate so much?
tonygraz Offline
#253 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 12:17 PM EST
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Carl and others are not going to like/believe this: http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/despite-immunity-noise-there-is-still-no-fbi-email-linvestigation-of-hillary-clinton/23995/
Brewha Offline
#254 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 12:22 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
What specific policies of his do you hate so much?

Ted Cruz pushes the government being involved in peoples reproductive rights (big government) because his God told him so - so much for religious freedom on his watch.

And I thought he did a poor job of acting in all of the Mission Impossible movies....
DrafterX Offline
#255 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 1:52 PM EST
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How well did it go under Obama's..?? When's the last time you saw prayer in a public place..?? How many Christians were sued for standing by their religious beliefs. .?? Huh


And I've never seen anything impossible happen in those movies... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#256 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 2:53 PM EST
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While this election has little to do with policy, his policy of absolutism and zero compromise. Our government was founded on comrimise and structured to support that.

he is more in to stopping and destroying than creating or fixing. The fact he has/had no intention on being a productive senator but planned his presidential run on day 1 leading to his grandstanding makes the sitting senator claiming to not be a politician every bit as much as one as he rails against.

The self proclaimed more republican and more god like than all others rubs me wrong too. I've been around a lot of preachers claiming the same and usually it turns out to be something different. Don't proclaim it, be it. I have a feeling over time we are going to be treated to something very nasty in his closet.

Aside from his absolutism and zero compromise attitude (which I understand is a positive to some but I find it intellectually lazy and pandering) there's the fact that I don't trust him as far as I can throw him making his words have little merit to me regardless of the policy he's trying to kill in the moment. It seems most that have met with him over the years share the same disTRUSt. He parses words just like any lawyer and politician which is fine unless you are railing against other politicians and lawyers. He's playing the game while pretending not to and a few people are eating it up.

I admit I do have a bias when seeing someone bitch about something while doing the same. The dude is smart though. He identified a set of people and characteristics and pandered to them unwaveringly in order to obtain his personal objectives with little thought to the greater good. It's all about Ted but something he packages otherwise. Brilliant in terms of being a lawyer, politician or debater. As long as you can define the issue in your terms it's hard to lose the debate. Smart dude. I won't argue differently there.

My favorite part of his tactic now is if he gets 15% of the vote and trump gets 40% that means 60% are voting against Trump but does not mean 85% are voting against him. Lol. I love it. In terms of watching it like a game he's good and interesting. In terms of what's best for the country not so much.

He's another politician trying to say he's not and pandering to the folks that don't like politicians and are willing to believe a first term senator running for president is not one because he burned every bridge he ever met in order to build his facade. Usually burning bridges is bad advice unless you are courting a very specific group of people. Smart dude.
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#257 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 3:23 PM EST
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And his wife isn't exactu model material... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
#258 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 3:25 PM EST
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That's a lot of typing with not answering directly.

You learn that from Ted?

Tell me where the left compromises? I don't read any distaste from you in that respect when they are just of guilty of that as the portion of the right that have taken that tact largely as a reaction TO the left TW.

Brewha. How is he going to change Roe vs Wade?
teedubbya Offline
#259 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 3:46 PM EST
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You didn't ask me about the left so your outrage about me not speaking to them is duly noted.

I'll type less. His policy of absolutism, zero compromise, and destruction for personal gain rather than trying to build for the good of the country while pretending to be something else. I don't like that in anyone if any party.
teedubbya Offline
#260 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 3:48 PM EST
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And the lack of personal responsibility by trying to blame the other side for your actions rather than owning them all the while pretending you stand for personal responsibility.


The devil made me do it. Praise the lord.
teedubbya Offline
#261 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 3:55 PM EST
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The nearest just the pragmatic side of me that says he has intentionally positioned himself as the zealot candidate. There is no way he will pull the majority of the independence and he may not even pull the more moderate side of his own party I really don't believe he would have any chance in the general election. I'm no-trump fan but he has a much better chance in the general I just don't think we know what we're going to get when you get him. I'll give cruise this at least you know you're going to get an **** that pisses everybody off and gets nothing accomplished other than maybe touring some things apart and some people want that
teedubbya Offline
#262 Posted: Sat, Mar 5 2016, 3:56 PM EST
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That should have started then there is Damn voice recognition
DrMaddVibe Offline
#263 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 7:43 AM EST
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https://medium.com/@williamreynolds/missing-clinton-e-mail-claims-saudis-financed-benghazi-attacks-b471a61b5b2b#.fmsp5elnp
DrafterX Offline
#264 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 7:58 AM EST
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Those Bassards..!! Mad
DrMaddVibe Offline
#265 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 8:04 AM EST
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15 of the 19 terrorists that took down the World Trade Center buildings, bombed the Pentagon and from accounts would've taken down the Capitol if not for the heroic actions of the passengers on flight 93 were from....


Saudi Arabia



Millions of dollars have been funnelled into the Obama Administration and to the Clinton Foundation.


Why did we attack Iraq and Afghanistan again?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#266 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 8:06 AM EST
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When you're financing terrorism on a global scale...ya need cash reserves.


http://www.marketplace.org/2016/03/09/world/saudi-arabia-needs-money-really

and another take...

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-latest-sign-just-huge-234036927.html


Let's not mince words though...they're fine financing it...but to dedicate their army? Not talking Not talking Not talking

Oh, they'll set up madrassas all over the globe where it reaches even here in the US...and pay for it...but now that Iran is able to bring it's oil online and is really the powerhouse of the Middle East this threatens the power structure. That's why they need more money. Gotta keep the bread and circuses happening. Gotta keep the conscripts fed and armed. Gotta keep on converting more mindless religious zealots...gotta have more cash.

Remember Clinton wanted the Arab Spring, yet when the youth of Iran were at the precipice of another Bay of Pigs (which is most likely what she wanted!) they were too smart to take the bait and stood down...reluctantly. No, make no mistake the chickens are coming home to roost.
DrafterX Offline
#267 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 8:10 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:



Why did we attack Iraq and Afghanistan again?



Cause Bush drew a Red Line and Saddam crossed it... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#268 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 8:14 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Cause Bush drew a Red Line and Saddam crossed it... Mellow


Yeah, we ALL wanted our pound of flesh after 911...I got it. Now that we know more, why are we still there?
DrafterX Offline
#269 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 8:16 AM EST
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Cause we've been fighting with our arms tied behind our backs for 7 years... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#270 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 8:19 AM EST
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7???

Longer than that!

The misdirection is right there out in the open and nobody in this administration is saying anything about it.
DrafterX Offline
#271 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 9:00 AM EST
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Obama should draw a red line... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#272 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 10:09 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Cause we've been fighting with our arms tied behind our backs for 7 years... Mellow



thats a long swordfight
DrafterX Offline
#273 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 10:49 AM EST
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Mad
teedubbya Offline
#274 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 11:33 AM EST
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You have to admit that was a good one and one that will go right over some peoples head .... but not yours.... right into your mouth yes.... over your head... no way man
DrafterX Offline
#275 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 12:49 PM EST
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Shame on you
tonygraz Offline
#276 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 1:17 PM EST
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He won't admit it, but it was !
gummy jones Offline
#277 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 1:28 PM EST
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look ma, no hands
-drafter
DrafterX Offline
#278 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 1:34 PM EST
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Be nice gummy freak... Mellow
Burner02 Offline
#279 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 3:06 PM EST
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FoxNews.com - Fact Check: Clinton stretches truth with debate email claims

Hillary Clinton staunchly defended her use of a private email server during Wednesday’s debate – but made some questionable claims about what was allowed.

Defending her use of a private email server, now the subject of an FBI investigation into whether it was improperly used for classified information, the former secretary of state said: "It was not prohibited. It was not in any way disallowed. ... I did not send or receive any emails marked classified at the time.”

Here are the facts:

Clinton is correct that when she began using the private email system in 2009, federal law did not explicitly prohibit doing so.

But her own department warned its employees against the use of private email to conduct government business because it could compromise classified materials and be subject to hacking.

Clinton herself signed a cable in 2011 sent to diplomatic and consular posts advising that State Department employees should “avoid conducting official Department business from your personal e-mail accounts.”

Clinton further claims she didn’t need permission to use private email because former Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice did so. However, neither Powell nor Rice conducted all government business on personal email, and neither set up a separate, personal server for that purpose.

Meanwhile, while Clinton says nothing was marked classified at the time, the 2009 Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) she signed in her early days as secretary of state confirmed that markings don’t matter.

The NDA says classified information is marked and unmarked and includes verbal communications – leaving the responsibility to her to recognize classified information and report when it is outside secure channels.

And while Clinton maintained the emails were retroactively classified, sworn declarations from the CIA to the intelligence community inspector general say information included in the emails from the CIA was classified when it hit the Clinton server.

Clinton discussed the emails at Wednesday's Univision debate in Florida. She made similar comments during a Fox News-hosted town hall in Detroit on Monday.

In the year since Clinton turned over 55,000 pages of emails to the State Department, the agency has since censored hundreds of those emails because they contained classified materials.

And when Clinton agreed last March to turn over "all" of her emails to the State Department and urged their release, she acted only after her aides had combed through all of her private emails, withholding messages that they deemed to be personal.

Those decisions weren't made by federal records specialists who normally decide which materials need to be turned over.

Fox News’ Catherine Herridge and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
DrafterX Offline
#280 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 3:20 PM EST
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She's right tho... none of the documents are marked 'classified'... the word 'confidential' of Top Secret' is used on those documents... but she keeps using 'classified' when she talks about them... Mellow
teddyballgame Offline
#281 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 6:40 PM EST
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...well, she learned from the best.

"It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.
tonygraz Offline
#282 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 7:08 PM EST
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Aren't "confidential" and "Top Secret" classifications ?d'oh!
zerohourhero Offline
#283 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 8:43 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Aren't "confidential" and "Top Secret" classifications ?d'oh!


•Confidential
•Secret
• Top Secret
Quote:
◦Sensitive Compartmentalized Information (SCI)
◦Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI)


Those are the three levels of clearance (With the quoted two being subsets of Top Secret).

Clearances are weird... there are certain bits of equipment in the military you have to have a certain level of clearance just to touch, let alone use.
DrafterX Offline
#284 Posted: Thu, Mar 10 2016, 9:10 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Aren't "confidential" and "Top Secret" classifications ?d'oh!



Yes, but she specifically says, 'they weren't marked classified'... Mellow
Mikekoz13 Offline
#285 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 7:13 AM EST
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zerohourhero wrote:
•Confidential
•Secret
• Top Secret hse




And what most people don't know is that there are clearance levels above Top Secret. My guess is that Hillary has one of those..... although they do require a lie detector test. Anxious
DrafterX Offline
#286 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 7:59 AM EST
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Top Super-Premium Secret..?? Huh
cacman Offline
#287 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 8:10 AM EST
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The DOJ doesn't have to prosecute. Instead they'll put her on Double-Secret Probation.
The war ain't over…
DrMaddVibe Offline
#288 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 9:02 AM EST
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I don't understand what the hold up is.

For national security reasons alone she should be in cuffs...take her down at a rally too. right in front of everyone there.

Speaking of which...yesterday the Whore in Tampa held a rally at a nightclub called the Ritz...it hold 1200 people. Sanders held a rally at...wait for it...the Florida State Fairgrounds...more than 5000 attended.
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#289 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 9:47 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Top Super-Premium Secret..?? Huh


Platinum Membership Secret
DrafterX Offline
#290 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 9:52 AM EST
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OhMyGod
teedubbya Offline
#291 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 10:04 AM EST
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Drafter sure wants to probe Hillary.
DrafterX Offline
#292 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 10:09 AM EST
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no.... I just want to see her getting probed... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
#293 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 10:12 AM EST
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Freak
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#294 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 5:33 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Freak

Slight correction........Super Freak!!!!!
Brewha Offline
#295 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 5:34 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
no.... I just want to see her getting probed... Not talking

What, like in a grainy 8mm move with a Spanish sound track.

I mean, that's what I've heard of....
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#296 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 7:30 PM EST
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Mikekoz13 wrote:
And what most people don't know is that there are clearance levels above Top Secret. My guess is that Hillary has one of those..... although they do require a lie detector test. Anxious



Yup. Just posting the non-confidential list of clearances. Because I understand what clearances mean.
Mikekoz13 Offline
#297 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 9:16 PM EST
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zerohourhero wrote:
Yup. Just posting the non-confidential list of clearances. Because I understand what clearances mean.

Shhhhh.Shhh Shhh
DrMaddVibe Offline
#298 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 9:28 PM EST
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/11/source-clinton-it-specialist-revealing-server-details-to-fbi-devastating-witness.html
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#299 Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2016, 9:57 PM EST
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"My goodness. That is not going to happen. I'm not even answering that question."
teedubbya Offline
#300 Posted: Sat, Mar 12 2016, 9:51 PM EST
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She had the clearance Clarance.
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