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Hillary's probing Shifts into Fourth...
frankj1 Offline
#301 Posted:
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Clarence used affirmative action, but don't tell no one.
tonygraz Offline
#302 Posted:
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I hear he finally spoke.
frankj1 Offline
#303 Posted:
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you are incorrect
DrMaddVibe Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
you are incorrect



Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you


Not talking Not talking Not talking

A source close to the FBI investigation into the use of Hillary Clinton's private email server says that the IT specialist who worked for Clinton and who has been granted immunity by the Justice Department is revealing key details about how and when Clinton and her aides accessed the server.

The source characterized Bryan Pagliano as a "devastating witness."

Fox News:

"Bryan Pagliano is a devastating witness and, as the webmaster, knows exactly who had access to [Clinton's] computer and devices at specific times. His importance to this case cannot be over-emphasized," the intelligence source said.
The source, who is not authorized to speak on the record due to the sensitivity of the ongoing investigation, said Pagliano has provided information allowing investigators to knit together the emails with other evidence, including images of Clinton on the road as secretary of state.

The cross-referencing of evidence could help investigators pinpoint potential gaps in the email record. "Don't forget all those photos with her using various devices and it is easy to track the whereabouts of her phone," the source said. "It is still boils down to a paper case. Did you email at this time from your home or elsewhere using this device? And here is a picture of you and your aides holding the devices."

A source close to Pagliano did not dispute the basic details of what was provided to the FBI, but said the highly skilled former State Department IT specialist had met with the bureau on a "limited basis" and was at best a "peripheral" player in the investigation.

At a Democratic debate Wednesday evening, Clinton brushed off the question when asked by the moderator whether she would withdraw from the presidential race if faced with criminal charges.

Univision’s Jorge Ramos asked, "If you get indicted, will you drop out?" Clinton responded, "My goodness. That is not going to happen. I'm not even answering that question."

She then added her now standard explanation that nothing she sent or received was marked classified at the time. While technically correct, the distinction appears misleading. The January 2009 classified information non-disclosure agreement signed by Clinton says she understood that classified information could be marked and unmarked, as well as verbal communications.

Classification is based on content, not markings.


https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/03/12/hillary-it-specialist-singing-like-a-bird-to-the-fbi/
frankj1 Offline
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Doc, I was answering Tonyg when he said he heard Clarence finally spoke.

I have no doubt the witness could possibly destroy Hill.
Of course, damage control is likely on the move.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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I'm really interested in his testimony.

It's in my line of work..so either he knows what he's doing OR he's an idiot.

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frankj1 wrote:
Doc, I was answering Tonyg when he said he heard Clarence finally spoke.

I have no doubt the witness could possibly destroy Hill.
Of course, damage control is likely on the move.


Clarence and Hill in the same sentence?
Any pubes on that coke can?

frankj1 Offline
#308 Posted:
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the other Hill
tonygraz Offline
#309 Posted:
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Hill and Dale ?
teedubbya Offline
#310 Posted:
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Sounds like tg has been probed before.....
tailgater Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
Hill and Dale ?


You're not over them yet?
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the Chipmunk Dudes..?? Huh
Brewha Offline
#313 Posted:
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Alvin???
gummy jones Offline
#314 Posted:
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ALVIN!!!
DrafterX Offline
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Mellow
Brewha Offline
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Ever wonder where chipmunks go when it rains?
DrafterX Offline
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all the time.... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
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Tom's attic?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-state-hillary-bb-nsa-iad-00646/
tonygraz Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Ever wonder where chipmunks go when it rains?


They go to their subway.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/03/18/more-trouble-for-hillary-now-nsa-gets-into-the-act/


from the article...

Now, over two months later, I can confirm that the contents of Sid Blumenthal’s June 8, 2011 email to Hillary Clinton, sent to her personal, unclassified account, were indeed based on highly sensitive NSA information. The Agency investigated this compromise and determined that Mr. Blumenthal’s highly detailed account of Sudanese goings-on, including the retelling of high-level conversations in that country, was indeed derived from NSA intelligence.

Specifically, this information was illegally lifted from four different NSA reports, all of them classified Top Secret / Special Intelligence. Worse, at least one of those reports was issued under the GAMMA compartment, which is an NSA handling caveat that is applied to extraordinarily sensitive information (for instance, decrypted conversations between top foreign leadership, as this was). GAMMA is properly viewed as a SIGINT Special Access Program or SAP, several of which from CIA Ms. Clinton compromised in another series of her “unclassified” emails.

Currently serving NSA officials have told me they have no doubt that Mr. Blumenthal’s information came from their reports. “It’s word-for-word, verbatim copying,” one of them explained. “In one case, an entire paragraph was lifted from an NSA report” that was classified Top Secret / Special Intelligence.
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They are lying says the left, besides she barks like a dog.
DrafterX Offline
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Can't make this stuff up... Mellow
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Asked earlier this month whether she'd be indicted over her use of a private email server as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton responded, "It's not going to happen."

Though Republicans characterized her response as hubris, several legal experts interviewed by The Associated Press agreed with the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The relatively few laws that govern the handling of classified materials were generally written to cover spies, leakers and those who illegally retain such information, such as at home. Though the view is not unanimous, several lawyers who specialize in this area said it's a stretch to apply existing statutes to a former cabinet secretary whose communication of sensitive materials was with aides — not a national enemy.

During her tenure as the nation's top diplomat between 2009 and 2013, Clinton's work emails were routed through a private computer server located in the basement of her New York home. The State Department now concedes that a small percentage of those messages contained sensitive national security information, including some later determined to be top secret.

Computer security experts say the arrangement could have left the messages vulnerable to hackers, including those working for foreign intelligence agencies. Clinton has called her decision to rely on the home server a "mistake," but has also repeatedly asserted that none of the messages was marked as classified when she sent or received them.

The FBI has for months been investigating whether the sensitive information that flowed through Clinton's email server was mishandled. The inspector general at the State Department has also been reviewing the issue. Regardless of the outcomes, there's no question the probes have created a major distraction as Clinton campaigns for her party's nomination.

One potentially relevant statute carrying up to a year in prison makes it a crime to knowingly remove classified information and retain it at an unauthorized location. Former CIA Director David Petraeus pleaded guilty to that misdemeanor offense last year after providing eight black binders of classified information to his biographer. He was sentenced to two years' probation as part of a plea deal, and prosecutors made clear in that case that Petraeus knew he was turning over highly classified information.

With Clinton, though, "I look at something which requires knowledge, and the first question I've got to ask is, 'How do they prove knowledge?'" said Bill Jeffress, a Washington criminal defense lawyer.

While knowledge that information is classified is a critical component, it can likely still be established even in the absence of classification markings on the emails in question, said Nathan Sales, a Syracuse University law professor who used to work at the departments of Justice and Homeland Security and who thinks that the investigation raises important legal issues.

"Sometimes information is so obviously sensitive that you can infer knowledge from the content," in which case the lack of markings may not matter for the purpose of establishing liability, Sales said.

A separate law makes it a felony to handle national defense information with "gross negligence," by causing it to be removed from its proper place of custody or to be lost, stolen or destroyed. But that statute is part of the Espionage Act, a law used against former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden that's generally intended for people the government believes intended to harm U.S. national interests. Proving gross negligence requires showing an act was more than just a mistake.

"One has to put this in perspective of what types of prosecutions have happened under the Espionage Act," said Jon Michaels, a national security law professor at UCLA. "And the universe of prosecutions under the Espionage Act is quite small compared to the amount of information transferred through non-secure means."

Brad Moss, a Washington lawyer who deals regularly with security clearance matters, said the Justice Department could conceivably look to bring charges in the Clinton email case but prosecutors would have to decide if they "really want to take that gamble." Inquiries into mishandling of classified information generally end with a security clearance revocation rather than a criminal charge, he said.

But Ronald Sievert, a former federal prosecutor and University of Texas adjunct law professor, said an argument could be made that Clinton's creation of a private email server amounted to gross negligence.

"It's a jury issue," Sievert said.

Each prosecution of classified information cases has turned on different facts, making it hard to reliably predict outcomes, and the disparate punishments have frustrated efforts to draw meaningful parallels.

Petraeus got probation for knowingly mishandling classified information while a former State Department intelligence analyst, Stephen Kim, was sentenced in 2014 to more than a year in prison for disclosing classified materials to a reporter. Kim's lawyer, Abbe Lowell, urged for Kim's release in light of what he said was a "profound double standard."

The Clinton case indicates a "dysfunctional" system of overclassification, Lowell told the AP.

"One of the perpetual problems with the investigation or prosecution of so-called leaks cases about classified information is that the law doesn't recognize as a defense that the material should not have been classified in the first place," he said.

Regardless of the legal question, if Clinton secures the Democratic presidential nomination she's certain to be dogged by the issue through the November election.

"Ultimately, the real risk for the secretary might not be legal as much as it is political," Sales said.
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Guilty..!! Mad
DrMaddVibe Offline
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http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/274230-lost-emails-discovered-from-clintons-server



“We also know why Hillary Clinton falsely suggests she didn’t use clintonemail.com account prior to March, 18, 2009 — because she didn’t want Americans to know about her February 13, 2009, email that shows that she knew her Blackberry and email use was not secure.”
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None of it matters to her supporters.. talked with one the other day... it just doesn't matter.... Not talking
DrMaddVibe Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
None of it matters to her supporters.. talked with one the other day... it just doesn't matter.... Not talking


Then you should just punch them in the face. When they wake up ask them if it hurt. Before they finish their answer say "It just doesn't matter".Frying pan
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ok... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
ok... Mellow



Remember...pics or it never happened!
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ok.... I should prolly take their money too huh.... Think
tonygraz Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Then you should just punch them in the face. When they wake up ask them if it hurt. Before they finish their answer say "It just doesn't matter".Frying pan


Is that you, Joe ?
frankj1 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
ok.... I should prolly take their money too huh.... Think

screw 'em!
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DrafterX wrote:
ok.... I should prolly take their money too huh.... Think



"What difference does it make?"
DrafterX Offline
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And their Obama-phones... I never got my Obama-Phone Damnit..!! Mad
tonygraz Offline
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Did you apply for welfare first ?
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Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
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https://news.vice.com/article/fbi-investigation-hillary-clinton-email-server-details
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
https://news.vice.com/article/fbi-investigation-hillary-clinton-email-server-details

Hilldog obviously got her Obama-phone, along with a "Get out of Jail Free" card.
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When the FBI starts doing their job it's game over.

I was hoping she would've been indicted already...I guess they want to go after the 1st woman President.

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Investigation is supposedly in it's final stage... whatever that means... Think
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Saw on the tube yesterday that the FBI has approximately 147 agents working on the case.

Good luck!
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147 ehh..?? Think

I bet every one of them are radical right-wing bassards with an agenda... Mellow
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Obviously a vast right wing conspiracy.
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They will wait until she receives the nomination, then the Big "O" will pardon her.

Or they'll wait until she becomes POTUS so she can pardon herself. That will save a whole batch of new pens needed for the paperwork.
tonygraz Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Investigation is supposedly in it's final stage... whatever that means... Think


Only 8 more years of accusations.
DrafterX Offline
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I heard even Susan Sarandon won't vote for her..... that's just amazing to me.... Mellow
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http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/03/29/bills-alleged-mistress-hillary-had-several-abortions-kept-chelsea-advance-her-career



Great stuff
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Second judge grants discovery in Clinton email lawsuit

By JOSH GERSTEIN 03/29/16 12:46 PM EDT Updated 03/29/16 05:06 PM EDT

Citing indications of wrongdoing and bad faith, a federal judge has overruled government objections by declaring that a conservative group is entitled to more details about how Hillary Clinton's private email account was integrated into the State Department recordkeeping system and why it was not searched in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.

U.S. District Court Judge Royce Lamberth entered an order Tuesday agreeing that Judicial Watch can pursue legal discovery — which often includes depositions of relevant individuals — as the group pursues legal claims that State did not respond completely to a FOIA request filed in May 2014 seeking records about talking points then-U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice used for TV appearances discussing the deadly attack on U.S. facilities in Benghazi in September 2012.

Lamberth is the second federal judge handling a Clinton email-related case to agree to discovery, which is unusual in FOIA litigation. Last month, U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan gave Judicial Watch the go-ahead to pursue depositions of Clinton aides in a lawsuit for records about former Clinton Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin.

The new order underscores the metastasizing potential of the email-related litigation which involves dozens of lawsuits brought by Clinton's political opponents as well as news organizations. While the morass of suits seems destined to remain a nagging headache for Clinton's presidential campaign, the immediate impact of Lamberth's ruling could be limited, as he indicated Tuesday that he'll hold off approving any particular discovery until Sullivan has ruled on the issue in the case he is handling.

"Where there is evidence of government wrong-doing and bad faith, as here, limited discovery is appropriate, even though it is exceedingly rare in FOIA cases," Lamberth wrote in his three-page order. The judge noted that State argues it had no legal duty to search Clinton's emails when Judicial Watch's request arrived because her emails were not in the agency's possession and control at that time. It was not until December 2014 that Clinton turned over a portion of her email archive to State at the agency's request.

"The government argues that this does not show a lack of good faith, but that is what remains to be seen, and the factual record must be developed appropriately for the Court to make that determination," Lamberth wrote. The judge also referred to "constantly shifting admissions by the Government and the former government officials."

The FOIA suits, directed against the State Department, are largely separate from the ongoing FBI investigation into the presence of classified information on Clinton's email server. Clinton's aides are expected to be interviewed in that probe in the coming weeks, with an interview of the former secretary of state and current presidential candidate likely sometime thereafter.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment on Lamberth's ruling, while a State Department official said her agency is aware of the order and is reviewing it.

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton praised the judge's decision as a step toward reducing the mysteries surrounding Clinton's private email setup.

"It’s a remarkable decision that highlights the serious issues about the State Department and Mrs. Clinton's activities," Fitton said in an interview. "Discovery will allow us to get into the shifting explanations and potential misrepresentations and exactly where the missing records might be."

Judicial Watch's proposal in Sullivan's case calls for depositions of eight individuals, including Abedin, former Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills, and information technology specialist Bryan Pagliano, who was involved in setting up Clinton's home server. Pagliano initially took the Fifth Amendment in response to official inquiries, but has since reached an immunity agreement with the Justice Department. Judicial Watch has left open the possibility it will seek to take testimony from Clinton, but the group has not yet asked the judge to allow that.

The State Department's response to the discovery proposal filed last month is due next Tuesday. Sullivan is expected to rule on the issue by April 15. Lamberth gave Judicial Watch ten days after that ruling to come forward with any follow-up or further discovery requests "tailored" to the dispute in front of him.

Lamberth's latest order is likely to produce a back-to-the-future feeling among some Clinton loyalists and veterans of partisan legal wars from the 1990s. The Reagan appointee oversaw a series of lawsuits in that era over issues like access to the meetings and records of Clinton's Health Care Task Force, the maintenance of security files on GOP appointees in a White House security office and the use of Commerce Department trade missions as a reward for campaign donors.

The discovery process in those cases, often pursued by Judicial Watch, became a kind of ordeal for many senior Clinton appointees. The confrontational, wide-ranging depositions were eventually dramatized in the TV show, "The West Wing."

UPDATE (Tuesday, 3:45 p.m.): This post has been updated with comments from the State Department and Judicial Watch.

UPDATE 2 (Tuesday, 4:50 P.M.): This post has been updated with additional background.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/03/hillary-clinton-email-discovery-221338#ixzz44O0hLYMk
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/03/31/clinton-investigation-enters-dangerous-phase.html

From THE man that should have Chief Justice Roberts job.

The Whore is done...put a fork in her.
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