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Fact Check: 355 Mass Shootings So Far in 2015?

Mass Shooting Tracker's definition of a mass shooting is so broad that it included a BB gun attack by two children which resulted in no serious injuries in its data set.

The Washington Post reported yesterday that there have been 355 mass shootings so far in 2015. Other mainstream media outlets such as The New York Times have also reported that mass shootings have surged to the extent that they occur at an average pace of around once per day.

While definitions of mass shootings vary based on who is calculating the statistics, the source that these articles are relying on to come to such a shocking number calculates the stat in a vastly different manner than the ways law enforcement agencies have traditionally evaluated them.

The source of the stats is an unofficial, crowd-sourced compilation of news articles of shootings by members of the anti-gun Reddit sub-forum GunsAreCool which is also mirrored on the Mass Shooting Tracker website.

The Mass Shooting Tracker website states:

The most obscene incidents of gun violence usually do not make the mainstream news at all. Why? Because their definition is incorrect. The mainstream news meaning of ‘Mass Shooting’ should more accurately be described as ‘Mass Murder.’ The old FBI definition of Mass Murder (not even the most recent one) is four or more people murdered in one event. It is only logical that a Mass Shooting is four or more people shot in one event. Here at the Mass Shooting Tracker, we count the number of people shot rather than the number people killed because, ‘shooting’ means ‘people shot.’
Mass Shooting Tracker’s definition of a mass shooting as any gun violence event in which 4 people including the shooter are injured would include gang shootouts, robberies and drug deals gone wrong, suicide-by-cop incidents in which bystanders were inadvertently injured by police, and other incidents that deviate drastically from the Columbine and Sandy Hook type events that most Americans think of when talking about a mass shooting.


Mass Shooting Tracker included in its list of 2013 mass shootings a relatively harmless incident involving no serious injuries in which two boys aged 11 and 12 allegedly shot four people with BB guns.

PolitiFact, who ranked Mass Shooting Tracker’s statistical assessment as “half true” noted, “Using 2013, the most recent year for which federal data is available, the Congressional Research Service found 25 mass shooting incidents — far less than the 363 counted by Mass Shooting Tracker.” The Congressional Research Service defines a mass shooting more narrowly as a gun violence incident in public in which 4 or more people are killed in a single event and excludes incidents in which the violence is a “means to an end such as robbery.”

PolitiFact’s Amy Sherman added, “Mass Shooting Tracker showed 294 mass shootings [in 2015] as of Oct. 1. About 122 of those incidents — or about 42 percent — involved zero fatalities.”

USA Today’s analysis of mass shootings in 2015, which defines them as incidents in which 4 or more people are killed by a firearm in a single event, found that there have been 29 cases so far this year.

But that doesn't fit within the President's, Hillary's, and the other Liberal's narrative, and fight for more gun control?

So the tracker uses 4 casualties as their definition; you change the definition to deaths instead of casualties and declare the statistic untrue. (Using the BB gun outlier.)

To reverse Twain's maxim: statistics, damn lies, and lies.

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yawn...

we know..


wheel,

Yes, but in NY, they have limited the clips to 7 rounds.

In CA they are 10.

What if you have multiple intruders that break in your home? They may have guns, you have one, you have 8 shots, and you are nervous, it is dark and what if people are shooting at you?

You miss one or two, or don't hit center mass, you and your family could be in for a heap of trouble.

yes you may, but compound that with waking up from a deep sleep, heart racing a mile a minute.. etc.

I think you see my point.

The limiting bullets has gone too far in some places.

Interesting article Z, it is sad that there are attempts to warp our perception like that, but not surprising.

Maybe we could make more "gun free zones" or take guns away from law abiding U.S. citizens!!

The only solution to an azzhole with a gun shooting at you is to return fire.

Since a mass shooting is 4 or more killed it's not been twenty years. Try again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

You planning on moving?

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/wteach/media/Another/limiting_ammo_insanity.jpg.html

Alan did you read it?

Victims.....not casualties. You don't even have to be shot.

MotherJones........MOTHERJONES for God sakes admitted the statistic reporting was false.

Obviously they didn't purchase from a Muslim-Free Gun Shop, or practice at a Muslim-Free Gun Range.
Those type of establishments offend somebody… not me… but somebody.

It's best to have more rounds available just in case you are out of sorts and need to fire wildly.

Honestly for home defense not much can beat a 12 gauge pump action shotgun.

Over penetration while possible typically is not a worry, the sound of a 12 gauge pump action slide is unmistakable and let's any unwanted person in the immediate area know that they are in the wrong place.

I do suggest a riot type shotgun for extra capacity. Savage makes a decent 12 gauge for home defense. So does mossberg. Both are under $500.

When it comes to protecting my family from those that would do them harm a fifty round mag and hand grenades sounds like a good start.

"The average 911 police response time is 7 minutes, on average a 9mm has a muzzle velocity of 1000 ft/second."

Is there a limit on how many times a chinese guy can stab someone..??

No real substance or facts to back up their reasoning, but like most libs and sjw blow the situation out of context and try to become the victim. That way in their minds since they were victims, they are right and those that are in disagreement with them are in the wrong.

Since we are on the rediculous... I want one of these!!

http://youtu.be/lVgTTAukMOU

What point??? CA already has 10-round magazine restrictions and what good did that do?
Some would say it prevented the shooters from killing more, but some say the shooters weren't as well prepared and trained as the media has lead on.

Another mass shooting - this one a terrorist attack - in a gun-free zone. Not one of the victims was able to return fire and defend themselves. And you're worried about magazine limits??? Moron!

One of my old Ithaca 37s came with a wooden plug in in to limit shell capacity. I'm not sure why other than to make it legal in certain Midwestern states. Never used it, but can't recall ever completely emptying the gun either. Of course I never was out of sorts and fireing wildly at anything I thought moved either.

From Wiki:



Most states have a limit on how many shotgun shells can be carried inside the weapon's magazine tube. These limits are designed to level the playing field for game animals, and encourage good marksmanship.

Read more : http://www.ehow.com/how_8127628_install-shotgun-plug.html

I can't address the requirements in any state other than Alabama. For many years hunters were only allowed by the state to have a three shell capacity in their shot guns for all game. Thus the requirement for the wooden plugs. The requirement changed in the late 60's by the state to allow full capacity for all game except certain game covered by federal statutes such as dove. As Drafter mentioned it may also apply to ducks.

Clearly, it's a kill ratio problem. Not only are they crazy; they can't shoot very well either.

I'm glad that others later on in this thread started to use the correct term of "magazines" and not "clips". Two completely different things.

Teddy, trust me, I ask this question without trying to set you up, nor will I pounce on a low number to say "AHA!"... don't forget that this lib is not trying to disarm you. I'd get a gun if I felt i needed the protection.

How many of these guys you personally know have had armed intruders in their homes? I know it happens, I know it is frightening and possibly life threatening, but I do not know anyone that has had it happen, though I do have friends who possess guns legally.

For that matter, as a point of interest and a small unscientific poll, how many here have friends/family who have experienced the horror of armed intruders? Is it way more than where I live (Boston)?

Is the issue of this disputed freedom really more related to fear of a government gone bad, or home invaders?

Frank, it happens to me every couple of weeks, but I'm running a crack house.