America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 7 years ago by tailgater. 241 replies replies.
5 Pages<12345>
'Angels' to block Westboro Baptist Church's protest at Orlando memorial
Jump to Bottom | Previous Topic | Next Topic
bgz Offline
#101 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:11 AM EST
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Gene363 wrote:
Offer an atheist a burger and all you get is crap, oh and an fat insult. Might have been a veggie burger too.


Joke man, relax... fat was part of the narrative... cross-fit... meh, never mind.

Just for the record, I would take you up on a burger or a donut, and if I was in your home, I would even go through the motions and pray with you if that was your custom.

Also, the only way religion (or lack there of) would come up is if you brought it up... I rarely talk religion and politics, but I do here because this is the forum I choose to participate in.
Brewha Offline
#102 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:20 AM EST
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
DrafterX wrote:
I didn't say that... the ISIS dudes are killing Mooslims too... Because they read in their book to 'Kill da White man, and anyone else who thinks like they do'.... Do you really believe they're killing anybody that disagrres with them cause we droppped a few bombs in Afghanistan..?? Huh

I think their mad because they got their country invaded....
Brewha Offline
#103 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:25 AM EST
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
DrafterX wrote:
Think
So who are the guys insisting we remove 10 commandment monuments and stuff from the court houses..?? not to mention no prayers in schools and stuff... Huh

Americans who believe in the separation of church and state. Believe or not, even some Christians know that a govmut shouldn't back a particular faith.
DrafterX Offline
#104 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:27 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
Brewha wrote:
Americans who believe in the separation of church and state. .



them are atheists... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#105 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:28 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
Brewha wrote:
I think their mad because they got their country invaded....




they're mad about a whole lot more than that... nobody is pushing gay marriage in their country but they seem awfully upset about it.. Mellow
Brewha Offline
#106 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:30 AM EST
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
DrafterX wrote:
them are atheists... Mellow

d'oh!

So you feel we should have a national religion?
Pray tell - which one?

I'll bet it's not Jewish.....
DrafterX Offline
#107 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:33 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
not saying that.... but there's nothing wrong with a little history memorabilia either... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#108 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:39 AM EST
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
DrafterX wrote:
not saying that.... but there's nothing wrong with a little history memorabilia either... Mellow

So you would go along with excerpts of the Quran being on courthouse walls?
Ok to read the Torah to school kids?
How 'bout a pentagram on the $1 bill.....
gummy jones Offline
#109 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:44 AM EST
Joined: 07-06-2015
Posts: 7,969
Brewha wrote:
So you would go along with excerpts of the Quran being on courthouse walls?
Ok to read the Torah to school kids?
How 'bout a pentagram on the $1 bill.....


you are extra militant today bud

i was unaware that of our countrys rich muslim heritage
i had no idea the Bible was a mandated read in schools
yet i certainly remember learning about islam multiple times over
DrafterX Offline
#110 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:44 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
that would be gay.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#111 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:52 AM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
I don't remember learning much about islam in school but we did learn a lot about the bible (which I'm sure isn't happening much if at all today). Since Judiasm, Christianity and Islam have so much in common and are indeed interrelated it doesn't matter much to me though. The differences are not as great as some would have you beleive. A christian is a chapter or two away from being a muslim. Jews on the other hand are buffered by an additional chapter or two.
Brewha Offline
#112 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 10:55 AM EST
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
gummy jones wrote:
you are extra militant today bud

i was unaware that of our countrys rich muslim heritage
i had no idea the Bible was a mandated read in schools
yet i certainly remember learning about islam multiple times over

Yeah, well this country was founded on the separation of church and state for all manner of good reasons. To me, it is very un-American to ignore these principals. We all should enjoy the freedom to worship in the manner of our choice, free from other religions being pushed on us.

People seem to think it's ok if it happens to be their region that is on the courthouse walls - but it ain't.
teedubbya Offline
#113 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:03 AM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
I'm more worried about mormans. they sort of freak me out and they keep records on all of us. I can't help but think they aren't messing around with the penny ante small time atrocity... i think they just might take out all the undesireables in one fell swoop some day. They ran their mancurian candidate last year but will likely retool and run another.
DrafterX Offline
#114 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:04 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
Brewha wrote:
Yeah, well this country was founded on the separation of church and state for all manner of good reasons. To me, it is very un-American to ignore these principals. We all should enjoy the freedom to worship in the manner of our choice, free from other religions being pushed on us.

People seem to think it's ok if it happens to be their region that is on the courthouse walls - but it ain't.




Those peoples don't have to go to da courthouse... Not talking
ZRX1200 Offline
#115 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:04 AM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
Of, not from.
ZRX1200 Offline
#116 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:04 AM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
State shall not establish......
opelmanta1900 Offline
#117 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:08 AM EST
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 13,954
teedubbya wrote:
I don't remember learning much about islam in school but we did learn a lot about the bible (which I'm sure isn't happening much if at all today). Since Judiasm, Christianity and Islam have so much in common and are indeed interrelated it doesn't matter much to me though. The differences are not as great as some would have you beleive. A christian is a chapter or two away from being a muslim. Jews on the other hand are buffered by an additional chapter or two.


The most interesting thing about this statement is how adamantly nearly all Jews, Christians, and Muslims disagree with it...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#118 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:09 AM EST
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 13,954
teedubbya wrote:
I'm more worried about mormans. they sort of freak me out and they keep records on all of us. I can't help but think they aren't messing around with the penny ante small time atrocity... i think they just might take out all the undesireables in one fell swoop some day. They ran their mancurian candidate last year but will likely retool and run another.


totally agree with this one though... have you seen the Vice documentary on youtube about the large faction of Mitt Romney's family who live in Mexico?
teedubbya Offline
#119 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:19 AM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
opelmanta1900 wrote:
The most interesting thing about this statement is how adamantly nearly all Jews, Christians, and Muslims disagree with it...



Yup. I agree. Strange isn't it? But not unpredictable.... sort of like shiites and sunnis or catholics and protestants (and everyone else).

Bushism (not going to fix it because I find it funny) has a lot in common with the lot too. One of my favorite books is living buddah living christ. Easy and fascinating read drawing comparison and similarity between budhism and christianity. The same can be done with islam... and yet that does not mean there are no big differences. (like catholic girls give head while muslims take heads)
teedubbya Offline
#120 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:22 AM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
Haven't seen the documentary but if you ever need to research your family history save yourself some time and go to salt lake city. he who keeps the best records is the most dangerous.
DrafterX Offline
#121 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:23 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
They wear funny clothes and stuff.... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#122 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:33 AM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
Ya, my Mom has been going to Salt Lake City every year for the past 10 or 12 or so years... I've never been that interested myself.... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#123 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:51 AM EST
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 13,954
teedubbya wrote:
Yup. I agree. Strange isn't it? But not unpredictable.... sort of like shiites and sunnis or catholics and protestants (and everyone else).

Bushism (not going to fix it because I find it funny) has a lot in common with the lot too. One of my favorite books is living buddah living christ. Easy and fascinating read drawing comparison and similarity between budhism and christianity. The same can be done with islam... and yet that does not mean there are no big differences. (like catholic girls give head while muslims take heads)


kinda strange, ya... but just kinda...

I think a lot of people are subconciously scared by similarities between themselves and others...

"The things that make us different also make us better."
opelmanta1900 Offline
#124 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 11:52 AM EST
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 13,954
teedubbya wrote:
Haven't seen the documentary but if you ever need to research your family history save yourself some time and go to salt lake city. he who keeps the best records is the most dangerous.

nooooo thank you... the entire state creeps me out... they play by their own rules...
Gene363 Offline
#125 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:08 PM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,844
opelmanta1900 wrote:
The most interesting thing about this statement is how adamantly nearly all Jews, Christians, and Muslims disagree with it...


Not those that read history.
DrafterX Offline
#126 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:21 PM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
Damn atheists made them take away the history... Mad
gummy jones Offline
#127 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:32 PM EST
Joined: 07-06-2015
Posts: 7,969
teedubbya wrote:
A christian is a chapter or two away from being a muslim. Jews on the other hand are buffered by an additional chapter or two.


not even sure where to go with this silly assertion
although i hear similar things from the media and "religious" folks frequently
i mean it sounds really nice and fits the post modern, humanistic campaign

however, for starters, Jesus' divinity is discussed in quite a few more than "a chapter or two"

go tell a muslim that you believe Jesus is God and that they are similar and let me know how it goes
afterall, its pretty close
DrafterX Offline
#128 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:34 PM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
I worship the Great Spirit... He's like God's Dad... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#129 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:40 PM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
gummy jones wrote:
not even sure where to go with this silly assertion
although i hear similar things from the media and "religious" folks frequently
i mean it sounds really nice and fits the post modern, humanistic campaign

however, for starters, Jesus' divinity is discussed in quite a few more than "a chapter or two"

go tell a muslim that you believe Jesus is God and that they are similar and let me know how it goes
afterall, its pretty close



dude lighten up. do you really think I was serious with the chapter or two? post modern humanistic campaign? really? LOL

I have frequent conversations with jews, muslims etc as part of our interfaith group where we joke about the whole chapter thing,,,, like you just must have skipped that chapter etc. Sort of like Frank's prequel. As for telling a muslim I think Jesus is god... and the similarity (and differences) ofour religions, I do that about once a month.... so what am I supposed to be looking for?

religion can blind or can improve sight.
DrafterX Offline
#130 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:44 PM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
Axl wrote a song about that... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#131 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:46 PM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
Hey frank.......


I think jesus, the son of god, IS actually god, the son of god, and the holy ghost. I hope you are ok with that since you presumably dont.

I think it's ok telling you that since you are just a jew and stuff... those muslim animals can't handle that, but the jews can. (and since im an internet weekend crusader its safe either way.
DrafterX Offline
#132 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:48 PM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
teedubbya wrote:
Hey frank.......


I think jesus, the son of god, IS actually god, the son of god, and the holy ghost. .



he must have 3 credit cards... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#133 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:49 PM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
DrafterX wrote:
he must have 3 credit cards... Mellow



did you know his middle intial is H?
DrafterX Offline
#134 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:57 PM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
I've heard that but never saw his birth-certificate and stuff... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
#135 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 12:58 PM EST
Joined: 07-06-2015
Posts: 7,969
teedubbya wrote:
dude lighten up. do you really think I was serious with the chapter or two? post modern humanistic campaign? really? LOL

I have frequent conversations with jews, muslims etc as part of our interfaith group where we joke about the whole chapter thing,,,, like you just must have skipped that chapter etc. Sort of like Frank's prequel. As for telling a muslim I think Jesus is god... and the similarity (and differences) ofour religions, I do that about once a month.... so what am I supposed to be looking for?

religion can blind or can improve sight.


my sarc detector (which is normally strong) must have been defective
i was hoping you werent serious and admittedly responded in a reactionary manner
i apologize
bgz Offline
#136 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 1:02 PM EST
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
lol at the direction this thread went.
gummy jones Offline
#137 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 1:09 PM EST
Joined: 07-06-2015
Posts: 7,969
lets get back on track

http://img.memecdn.com/Awkward_o_129412.jpg
frankj1 Offline
#138 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 1:16 PM EST
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,228
teedubbya wrote:
Hey frank.......


I think jesus, the son of god, IS actually god, the son of god, and the holy ghost. I hope you are ok with that since you presumably dont.

I think it's ok telling you that since you are just a jew and stuff... those muslim animals can't handle that, but the jews can. (and since im an internet weekend crusader its safe either way.

who me?

I sure am OK with that, as a Jew and as an American.

Pretty sure my Tribe gave everyone those same Ten Commandments you saw at the Court House (read about it in one of those couple of chapters in The Prequel)...though I don't believe they or other religious related stuff belongs on public buildings or land either, despite it being far from offensive to my belief system/religion. That's the American part of me.

That said, I do like the way that Christmas stuff looks all over town so never felt the need to stop y'all...but I understand those who would vehemently oppose it's practice. Guess I am not wildly worried about the Separation thing, until i am told I am wrong in my choice. that really pizzes me off! Wonder if I can get a tax rebate? Hmmm.

But it is important to remember...I am like a idiot.
teedubbya Offline
#139 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 1:16 PM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
gummy jones wrote:
my sarc detector (which is normally strong) must have been defective
i was hoping you werent serious and admittedly responded in a reactionary manner
i apologize



I was joking about the literalness of the chapter or two peice but not about the similarity of our religions. It is one of the primary focuses of out interfaith groups. we share many of the same characters but assign different lables to them. From my experiences Muslims don't hate the baby jesus.
teedubbya Offline
#140 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 1:19 PM EST
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
I must confess I like Hanukkah Harry better than Sears Santa and get a kick out of people thinking an "attack" on Santa or Christmas Trees is an attack on Christianity.... in the words of jack off smirronoff... only in america.
DrafterX Offline
#141 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 3:34 PM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
well, how come they don't play any Christian Christmas songs at the 'Festival of Lights' show anymore..?? And WTF don't they call them Christmas lights anymore..?? Mad
opelmanta1900 Offline
#142 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 3:45 PM EST
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 13,954
I think the NFL owns the rights to the word "Christmas" now...
bgz Offline
#143 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 3:56 PM EST
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
DrafterX wrote:
well, how come they don't play any Christian Christmas songs at the 'Festival of Lights' show anymore..?? And WTF don't they call them Christmas lights anymore..?? Mad


Because the Pagans filed a trademark lawsuit because they wanted their cut... kind of like the music industry.
DrafterX Offline
#144 Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2016, 4:00 PM EST
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,564
Thanks Obama..!! Mad
Brewha Offline
#145 Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2016, 1:05 PM EST
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
Wow, I saw that one coming.....
tailgater Offline
#146 Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2016, 2:57 PM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Brewha wrote:
Unlike yours....


Tail, nobody has atheists ringing their door bell or asking for donations. They don't have 12 different TV networks on TV, hell they don't even seem to exist.

Btw - Agnosticism is actually a philosophical belief. So it's not a religion...


philosophical belief. Fine by me. You have a point, or you just trying to be correct for once?


As for the ringing of the bell, who gives a sh*t?
That's the Jehovahs, not your typical mainstream Christians.

It's the atheists who want to feel offended for everyone. They're the ones who demand the town square remove the Nativity scene. they're the ones who cry foul if a teacher uses the "C" word for the "winter holiday" break. They're the one's worrying that a bible might be found in a state owned court room.

And the funny part? If they truly believed that gawd doesn't exist, none of this would actually offend them. As a group they're nothing but thin skinned hypocrites who cower from things they don't understand.

But a level-headed atheist is actually an agnostic in denial.
Because as I learned earlier in this thread, that's their true philosophical belief...
tailgater Offline
#147 Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2016, 3:00 PM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
bgz wrote:
Probably only cause your fat ass offered them a donut and a hamburger and asked them to pray with you, rofl.


rofl?
For that comment? Really?

So you're an atheist?
Because your attack on my well intended joke does seem a bit, uhm, militant?

Thank you for proving my point, Chumley.


tailgater Offline
#148 Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2016, 3:01 PM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Brewha wrote:
I think their mad because they got their country invaded....


their mad what?
tailgater Offline
#149 Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2016, 3:03 PM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Brewha wrote:
So you would go along with excerpts of the Quran being on courthouse walls?
Ok to read the Torah to school kids?
How 'bout a pentagram on the $1 bill.....


Weak.

If we grew up with those things we'd understand that America is what it is.
Because of those things.
Or Despite those things.

It truly wouldn't matter.


Except to you.
pa-medic Offline
#150 Posted: Fri, Jun 24 2016, 3:28 PM EST
Joined: 02-13-2015
Posts: 98
Not aiming this at anyone specifically, just my .02

To understand the Atheist you have to remember what it was like to be afraid of the Boogy monster when you were a child.
You were afraid because you thought he might actually exist, as you grew up you realized he didnt exist, so you no longer felt threatened by him. I am not afraid of the Quran, I am not afraid of the New testament, I am not afraid of Burkas or Christmas trees.

Did you know that their are a few thousand Moslem soldiers in the Israeli Army? When they are inducted they swear allegiance to and promise to defend the State of Israel on a Quran!

Anyone who is secure their beliefs should not feel threatened by anyone elses customs or beliefs, whether it be a tree, menorah, or burka as long are not causing any harm to you.
As Americans we pledge allegiance to a Constitution that provides for the separation of church and state. (Some of those on this group have risked their lives to defend that constitution, we salute you.) IMO the intention of the founding fathers in providing that separation was to provide for the freedom of worship and religion, so that we should all be allowed to openly worship, in public and private, as we please. To use that the same Constitution to ban a tree or a monument to the Ten Commandments goes against the intention of the founding fathers. I am not affended by my neighbors Christmas Tree and share in their cheer during the holiday season. They come over to mooch some matzoh on Passover. We're all cool. No one feels threatened.

And by the way, the thing that Christians, Moslems , and Jews share is Monotheism, and thats big.
Users browsing this topic
Guest
5 Pages<12345>
Back to Top