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Abrignac Offline
#51 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 8:31 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
One of my projects in my undergrad statistics course was race and crime. It was decades ago but I still remember it pretty clearly. It's a very complex data set riddled with issues to account for in the data, the collection of the data, gaps in the data and what the data really means (how do you define crime, what's included/excluded etc). Abrig could tell you some of the issues with data collection (reporting) alone. Way too many issues to deal with in this format. It was fascinating and would have been fun to keep working with but didn't fit my path.

I remember a cacman type project that "proved" religion caused crime because there was a direct relationship between an increase in the number of churches and the increase in violent crime. Real study.....really flawed.

Cacman your statement, as you specifically worded it, at best has never been proven at worst is patently false. Many have tried. If you can prove it you should do so and collect some coin. Maybe you can get it published in skinhead weakly.


Why did I get pulled into this?

Now that I have, what is it that you seek?
tailgater Offline
#52 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 8:35 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:



-Nawh, their not that smart....


The irony is killing me.
tailgater Offline
#53 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 8:38 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
.... none of which has anything to do with answering any of my statements.


By definition, do statements require an answer?
DrafterX Offline
#54 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 8:39 AM EST
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No... but they normally get one... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#55 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 8:42 AM EST
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Typically, perhaps.

But rarely "normally"...
DrafterX Offline
#56 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 8:51 AM EST
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true... true... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#57 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 10:36 AM EST
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Abrig nothing bad. I just remember you writing about some issues with UCR etc. one small peice of a larger issue.
victor809 Offline
#58 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 12:14 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Yeah....the ONLY real difference is Carl is NOT running a racist blog for his followers to get their marching orders from....he is just fed up with our current situation that the Divider im Chief has created under his watch and allowing his feelings to get the best of him.

But yeah....it's the same


Sarcasm


Oh. Ok. So you're saying explicitly that cacman's exactly as racist as the woman in the OP... Just posts his rants anonymously on a cigar board instead of having the guts to say it in a type of medium which could have real life repercussions and isn't successful enough to gather a following...

You're not making him sound better....
victor809 Offline
#59 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 12:16 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
By definition, do statements require an answer?


No. But when one makes certain statements relating to a person's assertion, you expect their response to be associated with said statements... Or in some way a response, not some nonsense tangent. I knew if I said "questions" you'd point out I didn't use a question mark anywhere.
DrafterX Offline
#60 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 12:18 PM EST
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what... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#61 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 12:21 PM EST
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In fairness to cacman my guess is wysiwyg and he is equally and openly racist in person and doesn't care about the implications. I respect that more than pretending otherwise.
DrafterX Offline
#62 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 12:40 PM EST
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Is homeless a race..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#63 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 12:52 PM EST
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I'd pay to see a homeless race.
DrafterX Offline
#64 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 12:53 PM EST
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poor CROS.... Sad
teedubbya Offline
#65 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 12:57 PM EST
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I heard he had his younger removed to protest something or another.
DrafterX Offline
#66 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 1:03 PM EST
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Confused
opelmanta1900 Offline
#67 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 1:12 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
In fairness to cacman my guess is wysiwyg and he is equally and openly racist in person and doesn't care about the implications. I respect that more than pretending otherwise.


yup...nothing worse than a closeted racist... especially a mexican one...
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#68 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 1:29 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Oh. Ok. So you're saying explicitly that cacman's exactly as racist as the woman in the OP... Just posts his rants anonymously on a cigar board instead of having the guts to say it in a type of medium which could have real life repercussions and isn't successful enough to gather a following...

You're not making him sound better....




Meh....I'd say it took more ignorance hate and STUPIDITY than guts to do what she did...YMUV

That's the thing....there doesn't seem to be much in the line of "repercussions "
teedubbya Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 1:42 PM EST
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Yea Mexicans are the worst. My wife speaks Mexican, that's bad enough.
DrafterX Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 2:05 PM EST
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Does she yell at Louie-dog in Mexican..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#71 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 2:29 PM EST
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Yes
opelmanta1900 Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 2:32 PM EST
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I used to play snare drum in the repercussion section of the marching band...
DrafterX Offline
#73 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 2:37 PM EST
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band huh... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#74 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 2:43 PM EST
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So this Mexican speaking repercussionist walks into a bar...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#75 Posted: Tue, Jul 19 2016, 2:56 PM EST
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Herb Alpert?
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#76 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 10:09 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
In fairness to cacman my guess is wysiwyg and he is equally and openly racist in person and doesn't care about the implications. I respect that more than pretending otherwise.

I am not a racist. I don't care what the color of your skin is until you make an issue out of it. I stated facts regarding crime that where easily found through simple searches.

I also moved to CO because there is little to no welfare. There's little to no Section 8 housing, and in my area affordable deed-restricted Habitat Housing starts at $250K. Not to mention the smoke is a lot better. Only caveat is being surrounded by Illegal immigrants with better health coverage for free than what I can afford to pay for. But, they work their butt off, are devoted to their family and Catholic religion. The father actually sticks around and takes care of his family. (Just for you opel)

Spent most of my teens in state institutions. After living almost another 20yrs in one of the seediest areas of Pittsburgh, ducking shootings everyday, cleaning up needles off my yard and porch left from junkies getting their fix on my front stoop and having to bleach the blood off the concrete when they where done, watching a thriving German & Italian immigrant neighborhood turned to crap due to welfare, Section 8 housing, and gangs fighting over turf they don't even own but rented through Section 8, where girls would rather have another child just to get a raise in social benefits instead of finding a job, and a horrible public school system that required my kids to walk through a metal detector just to enter the school. Yes, I got tired of my entire family being discriminated against and expected something from just because we where the minority with different colored skin. I don't do these things to others, and require the same from them.

I sure as hell wasn't moving to Ferguson, Chicago, or Compton.
I decided to move on up. You can call that racism. I call it survival, and taking care of my family.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#77 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 11:36 AM EST
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I take you at your word that you're not racist... but saying that you moved to CO because black people would be less likely to live there based on their medical proclivity towards sicle cell is a decidedly racist statement... makes it sound like you used some complicated effed up racist algorithm to pinpoint the least black place on earth and somehow overlooked Orania...
dstieger Offline
#78 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 11:41 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Herb Alpert?



That's the horn guy. Maybe Tito Puente
dstieger Offline
#79 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 11:44 AM EST
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I'm not a racist. I don't hate x people. I just don't want to ever come in contact with one ever again in my entire life....and its their fault, too
ZRX1200 Offline
#80 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 11:44 AM EST
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Joel, sarcasm doesn't always translate well in written format.
teedubbya Offline
#81 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 11:53 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Joel, sarcasm doesn't always translate well in written format.



Agreed and I will take him at his word as well.

I've never met anyone who admitted they were racist. Then again I've never met anyone who thought about moving to altitude because sickle cell couldn't be there.

He may not be racist, but it is a racist comment. There is a difference. Sort of (but not exactly) like the difference between climate and weather.

Meh.
ZRX1200 Offline
#82 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 11:56 AM EST
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Oh yeah?

Well I once moved to White City.

True story.
DrafterX Offline
#83 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 12:24 PM EST
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TW lives in Nomormonshere, KS.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#84 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 12:43 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
TW lives in Nomormonshere, KS.... Mellow



I'm on the missouri side
bgz Offline
#85 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 1:07 PM EST
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Everyone is at least a little racist/prejudice, it's built into our genetic survival genes.
dstieger Offline
#86 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 1:08 PM EST
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Can't be....you can't go ten minutes nowadays without running into someone who isn't racist....loud and proud about it, too
ZRX1200 Offline
#87 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 1:10 PM EST
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Did you beat your wife again today?
victor809 Offline
#88 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 1:20 PM EST
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Nah... He just gave her sickle cell so she couldn't follow him to Colorado.
teedubbya Offline
#89 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 1:59 PM EST
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we all discriminate, I'm not sure we are all racist....

dstiegers wife has sickle cell?
DrafterX Offline
#90 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 2:00 PM EST
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Yes, that's why he got her the Fit-bit and broke her camera... Mellow
sd72 Offline
#91 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 2:01 PM EST
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And she speaks Mexican.
teedubbya Offline
#92 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 2:05 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Yes, that's why he got her the Fit-bit and broke her camera... Mellow



Don't let JJ near her camera.... not sure if he speaks mexican though
DrafterX Offline
#93 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 2:13 PM EST
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I doubt it... he could barely speak English if I remember right... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#94 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 2:40 PM EST
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On the upside... Possibly the most accurate thread title. It definitely removed any doubt that cacman might not hate the blacks....
bgz Offline
#95 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 3:12 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
we all discriminate, I'm not sure we are all racist....


Picture a crackhead gang banger...




























































What color was she?
DrafterX Offline
#96 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 3:15 PM EST
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I pictured a white guy... lots of meth-heads around here tho... Mellow
Stinkdyr Offline
#97 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 3:41 PM EST
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End Welfare Breeding.

fog
teedubbya Offline
#98 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 3:46 PM EST
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Weird... I didn't go right to black. Most crack or methheads I've seen or met are white
teedubbya Offline
#99 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 3:47 PM EST
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now the NBA......
tailgater Offline
#100 Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 3:53 PM EST
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Meth-head? I think white redneck gettin all blown up in his trailer.

Gang banger? I think black punk shooting gun sideways to match his ballcap.


Meth-head gang banger?
I think democrat voter.
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