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DrMaddVibe Offline
#101 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,633
Brewha wrote:
It’s hard to read when I’ve been drinking . . . .



That would explain a lot!horse
teedubbya Offline
#102 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
HD Told me to vote for Obama but I don't want to. We need a ruling.

RAM! Do I have to vote for Obama since HD said I have to?

Nervously awaiting the decision.
HockeyDad Offline
#103 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,213
teedubbya wrote:
HD Ted me to vote for Obama but I don't want to. We need a ruling.

RAM! Do I have to vote for Obama since HD said I have to?

Nervously awaiting the decision.




Don't vote at all. You're in a flyover state where you're vote won't matter anyway.
teedubbya Offline
#104 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Don't vote at all. You're in a flyover state where you're vote won't matter anyway.


Now you are just trying to hurt my feelings....

You assume I will vote for the big O just becasue I use the photo from his NRA speech in my avatar.

And quit scoffing
Ram27 Offline
#105 Posted:
Joined: 04-30-2005
Posts: 49,089
Bless your little voting heart TW.



Your voice, your choice, your vote !
victor809 Offline
#106 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
According to CNN's time-keeping obama got 7.9% more time. This is NOT "a full 10%", but it is more time.

I find it ironic that an erroneous statement about timekeeping would be in the same thread as:
zrx wrote:

Liberals saying things they know aren’t true for the sole purpose of exploiting the “less-than-informed” for political gain.


I'm sure glad that conservatives NEVER say things they know aren't true for the sole purpose of political gain. I mean, every time that something on this site gets snopesed it's always a liberal who said it, right...
HockeyDad Offline
#107 Posted:
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A trillion dollars in new national debt per year, and stagnant economy, and high unemployment/underemployment and we're worried about did President Obama get 10% more time in the debate or 7.9% more time.....

OUTRAGE!
victor809 Offline
#108 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
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HockeyDad wrote:
A trillion dollars in new national debt per year, and stagnant economy, and high unemployment/underemployment and we're worried about did President Obama get 10% more time in the debate or 7.9% more time.....

OUTRAGE!


Ahhh... ok. So there's a list of things that are acceptable to be misleading about.

Sorry.

Really wish the republicans would disseminate that list, maybe the liberals wouldn't intentionally lie about the wrong things then. Do you happen to have a copy of the list HD?
tailgater Offline
#109 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
teedubbya wrote:
I think you are all wet Tail and you are letting your bias taint you.

Romney was wrong on the small point and correct on the larget point. pretty simple.

And Romney didn't follow the rules of the debate as agreed upon by both parties. he had no intention to. Neither did obama. obama was just more graceful when asked to. Romney felt the need to be more aggressive.

thats neither good nor bad ... just my opinion. we all have them. Don't mistake yours as fact.



Both candidates failed to follow the rules. Agreed. Let's move on from this point.

The moderator interjected her own brand of fact check. Even if it were accurate AND relevant, it can and did impact the tone of the debate. It also affected the results.

When Candy first interrupted Romney to state that the transcript did in fact contain "act of terror", I assumed she was correct and that the information was damning towards Romney's argument.
And I'm biased, as you have pointed out.
I'm in favor of Romney. I want Obama out of office.
Yet I felt that Romney had his information somehow wrong. that the President must have called the attacks an "act of terror" because it was in the transcript from the Rose Garden address one day after.

You don't see this as an issue. Even though it had a major impact on the debate. A debate that is supposed to be between the candidates, not the candidates and the moderator.
I find your apathy to be naive. But no harm. You're probably in the majority here. Which makes this an even more egregious breach of protocol.

tailgater Offline
#110 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Ahhh... ok. So there's a list of things that are acceptable to be misleading about.

Sorry.

Really wish the republicans would disseminate that list, maybe the liberals wouldn't intentionally lie about the wrong things then. Do you happen to have a copy of the list HD?


I had posted the 10% time differential because the numbers were posted unofficially immediately following the debate. It was 44 minutes and change for Obama, and 40.5 minutes for Romeny. The difference was just shy of 10%, probably 9.6% or 9.7% if I did the math. I didn't think it would matter for purposes of proving the impact that this moderator had.

Maybe we should talk about who pays for women's contraception. Or how Romney will end Roe v. Wade. Or how corporations have been foolish for all these years because they could have hired an all women workforce and saved about 20% in salary.
You know: the important things.
victor809 Offline
#111 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
I had posted the 10% time differential because the numbers were posted unofficially immediately following the debate. It was 44 minutes and change for Obama, and 40.5 minutes for Romeny. The difference was just shy of 10%, probably 9.6% or 9.7% if I did the math. I didn't think it would matter for purposes of proving the impact that this moderator had.

Maybe we should talk about who pays for women's contraception. Or how Romney will end Roe v. Wade. Or how corporations have been foolish for all these years because they could have hired an all women workforce and saved about 20% in salary.
You know: the important things.


Romney got 40:50, Obama got 44:04... difference of 3:14, which even when ballparking can't be mistaken for 10%, closest ballpark is 7.5%.

Anyway, it isn't important, I just think it's funny that it would be incorrectly stated right before Z went on with his "liberals lie" rant.
teedubbya Offline
#112 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
tailgater wrote:
Both candidates failed to follow the rules. Agreed. Let's move on from this point.

The moderator interjected her own brand of fact check. Even if it were accurate AND relevant, it can and did impact the tone of the debate. It also affected the results.

When Candy first interrupted Romney to state that the transcript did in fact contain "act of terror", I assumed she was correct and that the information was damning towards Romney's argument.
And I'm biased, as you have pointed out.
I'm in favor of Romney. I want Obama out of office.
Yet I felt that Romney had his information somehow wrong. that the President must have called the attacks an "act of terror" because it was in the transcript from the Rose Garden address one day after.

You don't see this as an issue. Even though it had a major impact on the debate. A debate that is supposed to be between the candidates, not the candidates and the moderator.
I find your apathy to be naive. But no harm. You're probably in the majority here. Which makes this an even more egregious breach of protocol.



your proclamation is duly noted
HockeyDad Offline
#113 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,213
victor809 wrote:
Ahhh... ok. So there's a list of things that are acceptable to be misleading about.

Sorry.

Really wish the republicans would disseminate that list, maybe the liberals wouldn't intentionally lie about the wrong things then. Do you happen to have a copy of the list HD?



Most liberals can't read.
victor809 Offline
#114 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
HockeyDad wrote:
Most liberals can't read.


Well, why don't you just email it to me and I'll go on a speaking tour. I'll distribute audio-tapes, just because I'm such a helper.
HockeyDad Offline
#115 Posted:
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Ok, check your email.
teedubbya Offline
#116 Posted:
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EMR


EMS
victor809 Offline
#117 Posted:
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Awesome... got it.

Hmmm....
It's just a zip file of porn with Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton's face photoshopped on all the women. I think you sent me the wrong file.
HockeyDad Offline
#118 Posted:
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No, that's the right file!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#119 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,633
HockeyDad wrote:
Most liberals can't read.



IT'S THESE WORDS BOSS...He HATES THESE WORDS!!!...STAY AWAY FROM THE WORDS EVERYBODY!!!!
bloody spaniard Offline
#120 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
Good morning, Navin. Stay away from the cans!


Gallup poll after the 2nd debate has Romney ahead by 6 points.Beer
snowwolf777 Offline
#121 Posted:
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Posts: 4,082
bloody spaniard wrote:
Good morning, Navin. Stay away from the cans!


Gallup poll after the 2nd debate has Romney ahead by 6 points.Beer



Gee. Yabadoo News ran its entire cycle yesterday with about all the heroics of Dear Leader. That, and how the "Women in Binders" quote was the end for Romney.

I give them credit. The 18-year-old "editors" at Yabadoo try so very, very hard to make the news work the way they want it to work.

DrafterX Offline
#122 Posted:
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He hates these cans.... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
#123 Posted:
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Brother Wolf, I still have no idea what this binder business is all about... and I like it that way. LOL
I get my news from mostly Fox, CNN, and Drudge. Also meander through Russian, European Spanish (not Univision), and Al Jazeera tv for a different take. They're still pushing the disrespectful video angle btw... and call our muslim allies "collaborators". RollEyes

Only view MSNBC or Jon Stewart for laughs (and chills).... MSNBC's are mostly unintentional however. LOL

For pure unmitigated hate I'll occasionally (and briefly) tune to Bill Maher.
snowwolf777 Offline
#124 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Brother Wolf, I still have no idea what this binder business is all about... and I like it that way. LOL
I get my news from mostly Fox, CNN, and Drudge. Also meander through Russian, European Spanish (not Univision), and tv for a different take. They're still pushing the disrespectful video angle btw... and call our muslim allies "collaborators". RollEyes

Only view MSNBC or Jon Stewart for laughs (and chills).... MSNBC's are mostly unintentional however. LOL

For pure unmitigated hate I'll occasionally (and briefly) tune to Bill Maher.



Same for me, my long-time bro. No idea what all the hub-bub is about. They don't have much to harp on, so they hit the "big issue", which I guess was this binder thing. The Yabadoo headlines always scream at me because it happens to be my homepage on the net.

Due to my large amounts of time in a moving vehicle, I listen to a ton of news and talk on Sirius. Fox, CNN and Drudge also round it out for me, other than the local news channels. I would kick the television screen in with Maher. See zero value in listening to him blather.

I also poke around Al Jazeera English occasionally, and there are some "world news" channels that I like to watch on my high-speed, low-drag HD antenna set-up at the vacation home. Always interesting to see their emphasis on whatever breaking US news we're dealing with, vs. how our folks at home present it.
tailgater Offline
#125 Posted:
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Posts: 26,185
teedubbya wrote:
your proclamation is duly noted


As is your apathy.
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