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victor809 Offline
#101 Posted: Fri, Nov 13 2015, 8:00 PM EST
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...another successful elimination of a 15$/hr job. :)

Yay team automation!
tamapatom Offline
#102 Posted: Fri, Nov 13 2015, 9:43 PM EST
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Gotta stay smarter than the machines to make a living. I knew a guy who could feed and shoe a horse but couldn't fix a car.
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#103 Posted: Fri, Nov 13 2015, 11:33 PM EST
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Worthless fuqs at Mizzou are tweeting that they are on the same level with what happened in Paris and that they deserve media coverage too. Still saying KKK is on campus to cause blind panic. Only problem with that story just like everything else they've played up is its a bull**** lie.

Narcissistic racist children throwing a temper tantrum going on hunger strikes for hours at a time is not on the same level as Paris it's not even close. What happened in Paris is something to be outraged about, not their false sense of entitlement just because they are here and they think they deserve special treatment just for breathing.
TMCTLT Offline
#104 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 8:14 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
As someone once said - "We still need ditch diggers" - or something like that.



We keep importing them.....Illegally but they're here none the less.
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#105 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 9:46 AM EST
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tell The Donald to stop hiring them!
tonygraz Offline
#106 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 9:50 AM EST
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They do a lot of carpentry/construction work too.
TMCTLT Offline
#107 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 10:35 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
tell The Donald to stop hiring them!




Tell the Obummer to STOP letting them pour in.....




tonygraz wrote:
They do a lot of carpentry/construction work too.




yeah....mostly shoddy workmanship TOO. But that being said....most are not lazy or FAT and when given a choice....smoke **** cigars like some guys that come to mind around here. :-"
tailgater Offline
#108 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 10:50 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail.... I'm saddened that you don't feel that you can learn anything from college.

When I went in I was ignorant of a lot of things. I didn't know the process by which cells generated energy, I was unfamiliar with the genetic regulation of specific proteins, I didn't know multivariable calculus nor could I speak russian.

I'm sure colleges these days still provide these services to individuals who don't go in already knowing all of this. You must have just been a very very advanced highschool student.


You're technically correct.
But a high schooler who doesn't know quantum physics can hardly be considered "ignorant" in the broadest acceptance of the term.

I was talking about being ignorant to things you should already know, which is what most people think of when they use the term.
tailgater Offline
#109 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 10:51 AM EST
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tamapatom wrote:
They just came up with a robot that will crawl under a crawlspace and spray foam insulation.


The illegals will be mad.
DrafterX Offline
#110 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 11:02 AM EST
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The spiders too.... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#111 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 12:11 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
...yeah....mostly shoddy workmanship TOO. But that being said....most are not lazy or FAT and when given a choice....smoke **** cigars like some guys that come to mind around here. :-"


I hear they do much better work than many that do remodeling. They also seem to be willing to learn and get a better education.
ZRX1200 Offline
#112 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 12:20 PM EST
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It must be nice for them to get IN STATE tuition rates.
tailgater Offline
#113 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 2:06 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
I hear they do much better work than many that do remodeling. They also seem to be willing to learn and get a better education.



And the top nominee for this years "It's OK to generalize if you say something nice" award goes to...
banderl Offline
#114 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 5:07 PM EST
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He's not saying something "nice".
victor809 Offline
#115 Posted: Sat, Nov 14 2015, 5:26 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
You're technically correct.
But a high schooler who doesn't know quantum physics can hardly be considered "ignorant" in the broadest acceptance of the term.

I was talking about being ignorant to things you should already know, which is what most people think of when they use the term.


Tail, I hate to disagree with you (ok, that's a lie, I get a kick out of disagreeing with you, and if you weren't wrong so often my life would be a much duller place).... but your argument is the following:

College students enter ignorant and leave ignorant.
You choose to use a colloquial definition of ignorance, specifying things one should already know.

Are you suggesting we treat colleges like a remedial course, and expect it to teach a student something they should have already learned but haven't? That sort of defeats the concept of "higher learning" doesn't it?

If your high school kid hasn't learned basic algebra, I wouldn't tell you to send them to college. I would expect the same reaction with any other lack of knowledge or understanding you choose to label as "ignorant".

College is intended to reduce the level of ignorance of things which haven't been understood in high school. Otherwise it's just day care for 20 year old children. If you're complaining that kids aren't learning something they should already understand before entering college, then perhaps you are directing your complaints at the wrong institutions.
TMCTLT Offline
#116 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 7:59 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
I hear they do much better work than many that do remodeling. They also seem to be willing to learn and get a better education.




Why do you hate your fellow countrymen? I can only assume you use Illegal labor when possible, OR ( and I'll go with the latter.....your just an angry democratic supporting socialist A Hole




[Victor said]

College is intended to reduce the level of ignorance of things which haven't been understood in high school. Otherwise it's just day care for 20 year old children. If you're complaining that kids aren't learning something they should already understand before entering college, then perhaps you are directing your complaints at the wrong institutions.


You are correct on Both counts....parents aren't giving them what they need regarding REAL WORLD tools and have done a rather Poor job of correcting all the BSh*t fed to them by SOME of their K=12 edumication indoctrinators.
tonygraz Offline
#117 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 10:30 AM EST
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I like my countrymen, except for a few blowhard a holes who wear ignorance as a badge of pride. These types usually are anti-higher education because it just means that many more people that are getting a lot smarter than them.
TMCTLT Offline
#118 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 10:57 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
I like my countrymen, except for a few blowhard a holes who wear ignorance as a badge of pride. These types usually are anti-higher education because it just means that many more people that are getting a lot smarter than them.





You DO realize that you just described yourself here....right??? d'oh!
teddyballgame Offline
#119 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 11:03 AM EST
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Bingo.

The King of Ignoramus Townfolk everywhere!
ZRX1200 Offline
#120 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 11:51 AM EST
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http://www.thepcgraveyard.com/2015/11/13/protesters-at-college-demand-conservatives-be-sent-to-reeducation-camps/
tailgater Offline
#121 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 12:08 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail, I hate to disagree with you (ok, that's a lie, I get a kick out of disagreeing with you, and if you weren't wrong so often my life would be a much duller place).... but your argument is the following:

College students enter ignorant and leave ignorant.
You choose to use a colloquial definition of ignorance, specifying things one should already know.

Are you suggesting we treat colleges like a remedial course, and expect it to teach a student something they should have already learned but haven't? That sort of defeats the concept of "higher learning" doesn't it?

If your high school kid hasn't learned basic algebra, I wouldn't tell you to send them to college. I would expect the same reaction with any other lack of knowledge or understanding you choose to label as "ignorant".

College is intended to reduce the level of ignorance of things which haven't been understood in high school. Otherwise it's just day care for 20 year old children. If you're complaining that kids aren't learning something they should already understand before entering college, then perhaps you are directing your complaints at the wrong institutions.


Thanks.
I couldn't sleep last night and decided to read your post. Got halfway throu...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
tailgater Offline
#122 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 12:15 PM EST
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Seriously, vic.
You're too often like a robot. The C3PO type. Not cool like in lost in space.

Real people don't consider a simple lack of knowledge to be ignorant.
A child who doesn't know algebra isn't considered ignorant, even though you can say they are based on the pure definition.

When I say college students are ignorant, I'm talking about those who choose to pontificate about things they don't understand.
So if your high schooler doesn't know basic algebra, then they shouldn't tell us how it works.
THAT would be ignorance.

Again, it's not the definition that Noah Webster gave us. But it's one generally used in 2015 conversation.

All people have an ignorance at some level, but not all people are ignorant.
You ignoramus.
Brewha Offline
#123 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 1:14 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Seriously, vic.
You're too often like a robot. The C3PO type. Not cool like in lost in space.

Real people don't consider a simple lack of knowledge to be ignorant.
A child who doesn't know algebra isn't considered ignorant, even though you can say they are based on the pure definition.

When I say college students are ignorant, I'm talking about those who choose to pontificate about things they don't understand.
So if your high schooler doesn't know basic algebra, then they shouldn't tell us how it works.
THAT would be ignorance.

Again, it's not the definition that Noah Webster gave us. But it's one generally used in 2015 conversation.

All people have an ignorance at some level, but not all people are ignorant.
You ignoramus.

While I agree with your premises, I would go on to point out that college technically removes "ignorance" by aquatinting people with information. This is often confused with ability and competence, nether of which are direct products of information. And just because someone spends the time and money to get "educated" by no means makes them competent. Some of the least useful people I know hold advanced degrees.

Again, I feel college is overrated in our society - overpriced too.

Oh, The Robots‘ name was ”B9" (he was always a favorite of mine).
DrafterX Offline
#124 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 5:56 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Seriously, vic.
You're too often like a robot. The C3PO type. Not cool like in lost in space.




Perfect... I'm gonna read Victor's post seeing C3PO from now on.. Laugh
tamapatom Offline
#125 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 7:20 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Perfect... I'm gonna read Victor's post seeing C3PO from now on.. Laugh

But who is pushing the button on the trash compactor?
Brewha Offline
#126 Posted: Sun, Nov 15 2015, 9:32 PM EST
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Victor809P0, human cyborg irritations.
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#127 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 10:08 AM EST
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Well, when Wheel posts I think of R2D2.
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#128 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 10:32 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
You DO realize that you just described yourself here....right??? d'oh!


Maybe in the second half of the last sentence, but you highlighted the part describing you.
TMCTLT Offline
#129 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 2:38 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Maybe in the second half of the last sentence, but you highlighted the part describing you.




Here you go...this article was written with you and those like you in mind. Drink it in


http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2015/11/16/americas-collegiate-shop-of-horrors/

From the article :

If you’re outraged and don’t know why, but, since your BFFs are, you are too, then this column is for you.

Trigger warning: If you’re one of those precious little snowflakes who #StandWithMizzou and support the #MillionStudentMarch, be warned: the following contains potentially “hurtful” microaggressions that may invade the reality-free sanctuary of your Safe Space™ and leave you cowering in the fetal position.

If this is you, then read at your own risk.
tamapatom Offline
#130 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 2:50 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Well, when Wheel posts I think of R2D2.
I think of Robbie the Robot when Drafter posts.
tonygraz Offline
#131 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 5:26 PM EST
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I think of an angry little man when TCBY posts.
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#132 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 5:36 PM EST
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Snopes can't be trusted, but TMC keeps posting crap from www.gopusa.com and expects us to take their slanted info as fact.
Brewha Offline
#133 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 6:46 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
I think of an angry little man when TCBY posts.

That's odd. I always got a Jabba the Hut vibe.....

Angel
victor809 Offline
#134 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 7:27 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Seriously, vic.
You're too often like a robot. The C3PO type. Not cool like in lost in space.

Real people don't consider a simple lack of knowledge to be ignorant.
A child who doesn't know algebra isn't considered ignorant, even though you can say they are based on the pure definition.

When I say college students are ignorant, I'm talking about those who choose to pontificate about things they don't understand.
So if your high schooler doesn't know basic algebra, then they shouldn't tell us how it works.
THAT would be ignorance.

Again, it's not the definition that Noah Webster gave us. But it's one generally used in 2015 conversation.

All people have an ignorance at some level, but not all people are ignorant.
You ignoramus.


Tail... you've refined your definitions of your terms into uselessness.
Your complaint now is about people pontificating about things they don't understand. That literally can encompass people of any education level. The original argument (made not by you, but by TMCetc) was, and I quote:

"Because as we are seeing it [higher education] " in some cases " leads to severe Ignorance"

Your argument about people pontificating on things they aren't knowledgeable is irrelevant to higher education. As you yourself stated, a high schooler telling us how basic algebra would be ignorance in this case. As you can see, your own argument has redefined ignorance into a behavioral problem, not a knowledge problem and essentially cut "higher education" out of the equation.

Perhaps you and TMCetc need to get together and decide exactly what you're trying to argue is bad about higher education and get back to us with a more unified argument?

.... beep boop beep.
victor809 Offline
#135 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 7:27 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
That's odd. I always got a Jabba the Hut vibe.....

Angel


.... he jabbas you in the hutt?
Brewha Offline
#136 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 7:42 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
.... he jabbas you in the hutt?

So, when I watch film credits, and see "the projectionist",
That's you, right?
victor809 Offline
#137 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 7:50 PM EST
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Always the projectionist.... never the porn star.


...sigh....
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#138 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 7:51 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
I think of an angry little man when TCBY posts.



an angry little man at a yogurt shoppe?
tonygraz Offline
#139 Posted: Mon, Nov 16 2015, 7:59 PM EST
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Possibly.
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#140 Posted: Tue, Nov 17 2015, 8:20 AM EST
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I'll leave this thread for the three of you to continue your little Circle Jerk, don't forget to give Tony a break now and again from the pivot man position!!! Beer
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#141 Posted: Tue, Nov 17 2015, 11:15 AM EST
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I would like to see evidence of what in the hell caused this whole debacle at Mizzou.

A Poop swastika was the reason for all this B.S.?

In the day an age of cell phones taking pictures and videos of everything..why is there no evidence of this?

This is all made up b.s. Google the "swastika" in question and the only image you come up with is one that has been out there for a year.

This is a fake issue.. the guy in question that started this whole thing has been going to this "racist" campus for 8 years now.
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#142 Posted: Tue, Nov 17 2015, 11:23 AM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:


This is a fake issue.. the guy in question that started this whole thing has been going to this "racist" campus for 8 years now.



Perfect timing for him then.. He's about to have to start paying back loans... Mellow
Speyside Offline
#143 Posted: Tue, Nov 17 2015, 11:29 AM EST
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Think he will get a $15 an hour job?
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#144 Posted: Tue, Nov 17 2015, 12:37 PM EST
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if his degree is in liberal arts, he would be lucky.

but I don't know what he is studying.
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#145 Posted: Tue, Nov 17 2015, 1:25 PM EST
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I heard he was taking up space...really old joke
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#146 Posted: Tue, Nov 17 2015, 1:27 PM EST
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ate up with the dumbass... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#147 Posted: Tue, Nov 17 2015, 5:24 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
I would like to see evidence of what in the hell caused this whole debacle at Mizzou.

A Poop swastika was the reason for all this B.S.?

In the day an age of cell phones taking pictures and videos of everything..why is there no evidence of this?

This is all made up b.s. Google the "swastika" in question and the only image you come up with is one that has been out there for a year.

This is a fake issue.. the guy in question that started this whole thing has been going to this "racist" campus for 8 years now.



I said it before.
A drive-by racist slur.
And the poop swastika.

And we can eliminate the swastika because, well, it's made of poop.
We can't call the artist a racist or even an anti Semite. The only accurate description is fuggin nuts.

Think about it.
What if it was a nice drawing of a smiley face with the words "have a nice day" written underneath.
In Human Excrement!

We wouldn't call the artist "friendly", or "expressive". We'd accurately call him fuggin nuts.

He draws a puppy dog of feces? NUTS.

A Rainbow? Fuggin Nuts with the smelly hand.

Now excuse me while I refill his palette.
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