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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 1:32 PM EST
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Did you guys see Michelle Obama's portrait.
.?? Think
Ewok126 Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 2:38 PM EST
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I am truly bored but, I am not ever that damn bored.

So... No? Anxious
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 3:38 PM EST
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/12/michelle-obama-portrait-faces-social-media-mockery-after-unveiling.html

Mellow
Phil222 Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 4:02 PM EST
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Meh, they're okay. I wonder if they were paid for with money from their charities...
victor809 Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 4:07 PM EST
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I don't think hers is very good.
But to try to call it "rewriting history through art" is just dumb.
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 4:31 PM EST
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No it's not... Not talking
HuckFinn Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 4:31 PM EST
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Aw cmon. She's a good looking woman.
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 4:37 PM EST
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HuckFinn Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 4:51 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/posts/640423/First-Lady-at-her-best-

Mellow

Damn Drafter!
What the heck is wrong with her expression? Someone's bamboozled you in to thinking her expression is disparaging!!
She just looks sad to me! As she should man!

*thinking* some people see only what they want to see. And already believe.
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 4:54 PM EST
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The woman I see in the pic is not the woman in the painting... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 4:56 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
The woman I see in the pic is not the woman in the painting... Mellow

Are you a large black dog?
Your pic says you are...
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:02 PM EST
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Yes... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:08 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Damn Drafter!
What the heck is wrong with her expression? Someone's bamboozled you in to thinking her expression is disparaging!!
She just looks sad to me! As she should man!

*thinking* some people see only what they want to see. And already believe.


That was another particularly bright point in cbid history...
I wouldn't get too wrapped up in it now... basically it was a bunch of overweight guys complaining because the first lady didn't look pleasing enough to their eyes.... and they decided to use descriptions that could get them as close to "monkey" as possible, without actually saying "monkey".

I told you already... give it time. You'll have a reason to hate a lot of people after enough time has passed.
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:17 PM EST
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You hate peoples..?? Huh
HuckFinn Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:17 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Yes... Mellow

How do you type?
DrafterX Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:19 PM EST
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Voice commands... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:22 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
You hate peoples..?? Huh


If you don't hate people you aren't being judgmental enough
HuckFinn Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:23 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Voice commands... Mellow

That's explains all the growling and barkingGlare
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:26 PM EST
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I hate people in general... Just not personally... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:27 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I hate people in general... Just not personally... Mellow


You've expressed plenty of hate for clinton and the obamas.
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:29 PM EST
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I was just kiddin... Mellow
chazzeric Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 5:43 PM EST
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You realize talking to a repub is like talking to brick wall. Your words come back all twisted and distorted. Repub blaming democrats for shut down eventho,ugh they have majority of both houses . repub are delusional bigoted sadly to funny to believe I'm leaving cbid forumn you guys most of you repubs are just full ofLiar Full of crap Full of crap Full of crap
fiddler898 Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 6:01 PM EST
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Art seldom rewrites history; art writes history, as it always takes the long view.
HuckFinn Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 6:37 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
Art seldom rewrites history; art writes history, as it always takes the long view.

History, according you Churchhill, is written by the victors

Artists, imho, write the future
HuckFinn Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 7:10 PM EST
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Gotta preview..sheez
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 7:18 PM EST
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Controlling both houses doesn't mean there are enough votes to win everytime... But keep saying that and maybe someone will repeat it and before you know it it might become true to the brainwashed... Mellow
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#27 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 7:30 PM EST
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I think he was saying bye bye
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 8:00 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
History, according you Churchhill, is written by the victors

Artists, imho, write the future


I haven't written sh#t down.

Must be one of the other 808 victors....
frankj1 Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 8:18 PM EST
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Barry Manifold writes the song
Speyside Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 8:43 PM EST
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Bob Dylan did revisionist art.
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 9:26 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Aw cmon. She's a good looking woman.


Certainly puts perspective on your other points of view.
tailgater Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 9:30 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That was another particularly bright point in cbid history...
I wouldn't get too wrapped up in it now... basically it was a bunch of overweight guys complaining because the first lady didn't look pleasing enough to their eyes.... and they decided to use descriptions that could get them as close to "monkey" as possible, without actually saying "monkey".

I told you already... give it time. You'll have a reason to hate a lot of people after enough time has passed.



To paraphrase:
"If you look hard enough I'm sure you can find reason to hate anybody."


Your race baiting is a pathetic projection. Nothing more, and quite less.

Carry on.
bgz Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 9:35 PM EST
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You notice how big her hands are?

The artist really accentuated her giant girthy fingers, he must have been in the changing room and saw her %@$|<.
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#34 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 11:26 PM EST
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Trumps will look like a t-rex
victor809 Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Feb 12 2018, 11:33 PM EST
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I just call it like I see it tail.

That used to be something people kept saying was a venerated trait here. You know... when they weren't on the receiving end.I
SteveS Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 9:13 AM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Aw cmon. She's a good looking woman.

tailgater wrote:
Certainly puts perspective on your other points of view.


it certainly does add perspective ... she's ugly to the bone ... the picture shows somebody far softer in appearance and looks almost nothing like Michelle ...
tailgater Offline
#37 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 9:31 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I just call it like I see it tail.

That used to be something people kept saying was a venerated trait here. You know... when they weren't on the receiving end.I


What was a venerated trait? And who "kept saying" it?

Not sure I follow what you're saying.

Although I'm sure there was hypocrisy. There always is.
I just see your post as trying to create a platform in the present from your perception of the past.
It's an actual effort.
To race bait.
DrafterX Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 9:41 AM EST
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So, it's racist to call a spade a spade..?? Huh
tailgater Offline
#39 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 9:52 AM EST
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I wonder what the origin is for that expression?

I ask, because I'm more than half century old and I learned it with the catchy follow up of "it's just a f-ing shovel".


DrafterX Offline
#40 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 9:55 AM EST
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I thought it was about cards... Think
tailgater Offline
#41 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 9:58 AM EST
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You ARE a card.
Speyside Offline
#42 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 10:02 AM EST
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The idiom originates in the classical Greek of Plutarch's Apophthegmata Laconica, and was introduced into the English language in 1542 in Nicolas Udall's translation of the Apophthegmes.
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#43 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 10:04 AM EST
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SteveS wrote:
it certainly does add perspective ... she's ugly to the bone ... the picture shows somebody far softer in appearance and looks almost nothing like Michelle ...

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion.
I think she's pretty. The end.

And don't you think that most portraits are meant to flatter?
Well ok, maybe not Picasso's.
So what, her portrait is softer, prettier.

And what does my aesthetic have to do with my politics?

You guys sure you aren't just a wee bit prejuduce against black people?
If you're sure you're not, my apologies but, that's kinda what I'm hearing round here.

Not the end of the world if you are. As long as you don't act on it, right?
Speyside Offline
#44 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 10:13 AM EST
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Huck, remember, small minded people often mock and disparage people who are different than they are.
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#45 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 10:31 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
So, it's racist to call a spade a spade..?? Huh

Not as racist as referring to a black person as a wookie...
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#46 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 12:42 PM EST
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https://youtu.be/DofxovZWoqo
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#47 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 1:01 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
The idiom originates in the classical Greek of Plutarch's Apophthegmata Laconica, and was introduced into the English language in 1542 in Nicolas Udall's translation of the Apophthegmes.


That's what I was going to sayLiar Anxious
bgz Offline
#48 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 1:20 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Not as racist as referring to a black person as a wookie...


You mean that's not normal?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#49 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 1:26 PM EST
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Probably normal for a racist I would guess...
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#50 Posted: Tue, Feb 13 2018, 1:27 PM EST
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If you have to ask if something is racist, it probably is.
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