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bgz wrote:So do you believe all black people that protest are also marxist?
Almost all black people are sympathetic to the blm cause (right to not get killed randomly by police)...
But it's more than that... it's more about being treated without respect or empathy from those that truely believe they are dealing with an inferior race... which simply isn't true.
I've seen it when I was young. I wasn't black, but I would get messed with all the time. One time when I was young, my buddy had a warrant and they were waiting for him. They had guns on me slamming me up on my car, while the one white kid in the car was standing there with his hands in his pockets.... with that said, my stories ain't sh*t compared to my black friend's stories.
Seriously, if I ever put my hands in my pockets in the presence of police I would be dead. Brown people get taught how to act in front of police when they're kids... it's referred to as the talk... This sh*t ain't opinion... it's real, it happens. It's about being treated like a human... not asking for much.
So just because the leaders might have marxist views, it doesn't mean all the protesters feel the same... just means they want to quit getting sh*t on by outsiders.
With that, in this day in age, as long as you're polite, you're unlikely to die in an altercation... but you're still unlikely to be treated with respect... unfortunatly from my persective, the police profession tends to attract the billy badass types that like to flex on you (I'm sure I'll hear about this one on yhe vherf).
Anyway, you're still making blanked statements on a huge portion of the population... you talk about them like they're not human. You talk about them like they're some hive minded organism...
Therein lies the reason why I f*ck with you so much... you're an absolutist who generalizes everything to dehumanize anyone who isn't like you. You're a finger pointer... Sounds like someone didn't really research what BLM stands for before they went chips all in. This is from another post here where I went to their OWN website. I cut and pasted it verbatim with the last paragraph added by me. It's since been scrubbed off of theirs. I wonder why? Why would they do that? Here, give it a read... DrMaddVibe wrote:https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
What We Believe
Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.
In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.
Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.
Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.
Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.
These are the results of our collective efforts.
The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.
Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.
We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.
We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.
We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.
We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.
We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.
We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.
We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.
We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.
We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.
We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.
We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.
We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).
We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.
We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.
Anyone following this lunacy is a complete and abject moron. Follow the money and it's virtually a DNC piggybank. If you think for one second you're supporting some cause, you are...a terrorist cause that wants to rip down the framework of our country. Get your minds right, because this crap...it will NEVER end well.
Now, do you for a complete minute believe that most Black Americans believe in that? It sounds more like a hot angry mob that wants street justice because everything they're basing the BLM movement on is based on a bunch of dumbass people doing dumbass things that cause the police to shut it down. Rioting doesn't help them. It only destroys their own towns where they have to live in a bigger craphole because of their riots! Once the judicial system is done hearing their cases then they whip it all up again because they didn't like the outcomes. Facts meet Reality. If you want to call that racism, then jump in the next riot with all the other white kids and break stuff, just don't forget your rainbow boa either. I don't know one rational thinking and productive person of color that supports BLM. It's a joke. They want to rip apart America so they can put in their system. Seeing as how they describe themselves as Marxist trained socialists...yeah...no. Nice try.
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