Dg west deptford wrote:Ray please tell me you believe the evils of slavery needed to be ended even at the price of blood while keeping the union together.
The more perfect union needed perfecting right?
You can't be for defending the right to keep humans as chattel?
The civil war was the observable curse for the evil as well as it's lifting after the full price was paid in blood.
WTF! No, anybody that thinks the war was about ending slavery by the mass murder and maiming of over 600,000+ Americans was the price that needed to be paid is a sicko. No other country ended slavery in such an uncivilized manner but we're supposed to believe this unparalleled bloodbath was some necessary holy grand crusade to free the slaves.
"Saving the Union" as the Lincoln slogan went or "keeping the union together"....meant preventing some Americans by the force of arms from having their revolutionary right to self-determination. If that was perfecting the union, Hitler must have been perfecting the union in Europe.
So contrary to the American good guy North -bad guy South myth of the war, you actually had 2 slave-owning republics at the start of the conflict. Yes, there was slavery still in some Northern states, even during the war, people seem to forget that part. Wonder why?
You only have to read Lincoln's First Inaugural Address to see he had no intention to end slavery where it existed,
“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.”
He was correct, he had no constitutional authority to interfere, the legal course could only be the states amending the constitution.
At the same time, he was still working since his early days as a member of the American Colonization Society to deport them black folk.
On state sovereignty, he said, "Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes."
Dicktators always lie, I guess he was lying.because:
That eloquent affirmation of states rights under the Constitution and that an armed invasion of "any State or Territory" is tantamount to the crime of treason under the Constitution didn't seem to stop him from making a thinly veiled threat of invasion if the Confederate States didn't allow him to keep his tariff collection sites (Fort Sumter was one) and pay him tribute. Gots to keep that revenue stream going ya know.
"The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to c]ollect the duties and imposts[/h]; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion,"
Hmmm...you can't make this chit up.