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RayR Offline
#51 Posted:
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Cooter says take your commie PC, stick it up your azz and suck on General Lee's tail pipe!ram27bat

https://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/dukes-hazzard-star-ben-jones-defends-confederate-flag-article-1.2269598
Dg west deptford Offline
#52 Posted:
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Ray please tell me you believe the evils of slavery needed to be ended even at the price of blood while keeping the union together.

The more perfect union needed perfecting right?

You can't be for defending the right to keep humans as chattel?

The civil war was the observable curse for the evil as well as it's lifting after the full price was paid in blood.
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#53 Posted:
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Fake news... the civil war wasn't about slavery... Mellow
Whistlebritches Offline
#54 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Also quit being so insecure or jealous of what I do. I don't brag, I have just decided not to hide who and what I am. Maybe I will tire of posting here, but the chain of fools is fun to mess with, especially when I am correct.



I've never seen you post up your occupation...........just how glamorous it is.

Do tell.......why would we be jealous,what is it that you do

Are you always correct?I would have to say no if you've bought into CRT.........this program teaches all white kids they are oppressors and all black they are oppressed,which we both know neither is true.If you are so "white guilted" that you promote CRT.........what's in your past that your not telling us?
Dg west deptford Offline
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Harriet Beecher Stowe would differ
Dg west deptford Offline
#56 Posted:
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Edit my last was in response to drafter
Speyside Offline
#57 Posted:
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I'm not going to argue with you Ron. I was speaking specifically to MACS. I can only assume he is jealous because of the way he stated his physical condition. In that regard I am happy for him. As far as as my career, I do not have a job, I look for the best possible questions to ask. I am sure I have insulted what you believe in.
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Clumsy fingers as well as no grammar or spelling. Maybe just consider it this way, I'm not going to agree with you. I don't expect you to agree with me. Ain't America great? We don't need to agree. But I sure as hell am not going to bow to a stupid bunch of azzholes. In this I am not referring to you. Actually even though I expect the argument with MACS could be awsome I am not so much referring to him. But I will no longer accept his condescending smugness or his rather crude drunken posting so I will be calling him out.
Dg west deptford Offline
#59 Posted:
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No job? Aren't you young Spey?
Speyside Offline
#60 Posted:
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I'm 61 DG.
HockeyDad Offline
#61 Posted:
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It’s hard finding a new job at that age because of age discrimination.
Speyside Offline
#62 Posted:
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But I didn't really mean it that way. I have a career, not a job and to me there is a big difference. I retired for a while and sold wine, that was a job, but fun and enjoyable. Covid ended that. I never totally quite looking for the right questions. When you find them you make money. I simply do not talk here about that part of me. Though true it would be exponentially harder to believe than what I do share here which I think some do not believe. There of course is a lot more to my story but that is a reasonable bit of it. I will admit that I don't fit in the best with my age group. I think very differently than most people do. Not better or worse just vastly different.
Dg west deptford Offline
#63 Posted:
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Didn't you just have a baby?
You da man!
How old is your bride?
Speyside Offline
#64 Posted:
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She is 44. I'll PM you when I have a chance. Our meeting was so serendipitous it amazes me still.
Whistlebritches Offline
#65 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
But I didn't really mean it that way. I have a career, not a job and to me there is a big difference.t.



OK what is your career that is so envious?If you were a gynecologist I have news for you........no one is envious of the guy that has to look at old pussies all day long.
Speyside Offline
#66 Posted:
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I already told you, I look for the right questions. You either get that or you don't, clearly you don't. Not many people do. As far as futher explaining I have no intention of doing that. But here's a good question. What is the best way for the world to utilize natural gas? Yet I don't think it is the right question. Here's another good question. How can nanomaterials be effectively be used to combat horrific illnesses. Yet I don't think that is the correct question. When you find the right question you make money. This in no way means I am brilliant in those fields. It does mean when I and others find the right question brilliant people in those fields can look for answers.
bgz Offline
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Vherf
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#68 Posted:
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talk about relationships : https://imgur.com/gallery/PnuUP
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#69 Posted:
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Hmmmmm…..the idiots I work with ask questions all day……


Ol Z answers questions and solves problems all day, in between I point out problems that haven’t happened yet that special people that sound like Spey created. Because some people have to create a scene that in turn makes their existence needed by people that are dumb enough to listen to them.

I’ll look into the question thing next week when I get done with my 5 day weekend.
MACS Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Clumsy fingers as well as no grammar or spelling. Maybe just consider it this way, I'm not going to agree with you. I don't expect you to agree with me. Ain't America great? We don't need to agree. But I sure as hell am not going to bow to a stupid bunch of azzholes. In this I am not referring to you. Actually even though I expect the argument with MACS could be awsome I am not so much referring to him. But I will no longer accept his condescending smugness or his rather crude drunken posting so I will be calling him out.


You, sir... are a legend in your own mind. Condescending smugness? You described yourself.

We've met, dude... you're not impressive. Tall and goofy as hell from what I remember.
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You two have met??!!!


Sweet baby Jesus on a popsicle stick.
RayR Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Ray please tell me you believe the evils of slavery needed to be ended even at the price of blood while keeping the union together.

The more perfect union needed perfecting right?

You can't be for defending the right to keep humans as chattel?

The civil war was the observable curse for the evil as well as it's lifting after the full price was paid in blood.


WTF! No, anybody that thinks the war was about ending slavery by the mass murder and maiming of over 600,000+ Americans was the price that needed to be paid is a sicko. No other country ended slavery in such an uncivilized manner but we're supposed to believe this unparalleled bloodbath was some necessary holy grand crusade to free the slaves.

"Saving the Union" as the Lincoln slogan went or "keeping the union together"....meant preventing some Americans by the force of arms from having their revolutionary right to self-determination. If that was perfecting the union, Hitler must have been perfecting the union in Europe.
So contrary to the American good guy North -bad guy South myth of the war, you actually had 2 slave-owning republics at the start of the conflict. Yes, there was slavery still in some Northern states, even during the war, people seem to forget that part. Wonder why?Think

You only have to read Lincoln's First Inaugural Address to see he had no intention to end slavery where it existed,

“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.”

He was correct, he had no constitutional authority to interfere, the legal course could only be the states amending the constitution.
At the same time, he was still working since his early days as a member of the American Colonization Society to deport them black folk.

On state sovereignty, he said, "Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes."

Dicktators always lie, I guess he was lying.because:
That eloquent affirmation of states rights under the Constitution and that an armed invasion of "any State or Territory" is tantamount to the crime of treason under the Constitution didn't seem to stop him from making a thinly veiled threat of invasion if the Confederate States didn't allow him to keep his tariff collection sites (Fort Sumter was one) and pay him tribute. Gots to keep that revenue stream going ya know.

"The power confided to me will be used to hold, occupy, and possess the property and places belonging to the Government and to c]ollect the duties and imposts[/h]; but beyond what may be necessary for these objects, there will be no invasion,"

Hmmm...you can't make this chit up.


Speyside Offline
#73 Posted:
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Gosh MACS, you're right. That was back when I was fat, pre heart surgery, my diabietes was undiagnosed, and I hadn't had surgery to fix 4 other health problems.

You on the other hand were short, fat, and dumb. What have you done to change your issues?
bgz Offline
#74 Posted:
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He got a dog.
MACS Offline
#75 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
He got a dog.


That was all it took!! I'm cured! Mother of mercy, praise the Laaaawwwd!!

Hallelujah! Can I get an amen!?
MACS Offline
#76 Posted:
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Was your schizophrenia undiagnosed, too?

Askin' for Z...
bgz Offline
#77 Posted:
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Amen dawg... amen
Speyside Offline
#78 Posted:
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Never had that particular disorder. Though there are many others. Worry not, you are experiencing the Dunning–Kruger effect.
Speyside Offline
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You are effected by Carlo Cipolla's laws of stupidity.

Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.

The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.

A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.

Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.

A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
bgz Offline
#80 Posted:
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I for one don't have that problem, I assume everyone is an idiot by default.
RayR Offline
#81 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
I for one don't have that problem, I assume everyone is an idiot by default.


Naturally, for consistency that includes yourself.
bgz Offline
#82 Posted:
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No, the inner narcissist in me allows the exception.
Dg west deptford Offline
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Interesting Ray, thanks for sharing your take on the cause/motive for the civil war. I'll certainly consider it.
We have a 9th/10th grade US History teacher at the lounge who's an interesting character. Fiscally conservative socially liberal - by his own description but he's more outspokenly conservative than most on every social issue I can think of.
Looking forward to picking his brain on this take

One question you didn't answer;
Are you for the defense of human ownership?
If a sovereign state in our union wanted that right for it's citizens, you would be against shedding blood to stop it?

I'd personally support a civil war to stop the legalized practice of child murder. As the national curse for that practice has got to be past due for payment in blood.

bgz Offline
#84 Posted:
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I'll summarize...

Are you pro slavery RayRay?

I'm Asking for Dg.

Yes or No please... no links.
RayR Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
Interesting Ray, thanks for sharing your take on the cause/motive for the civil war. I'll certainly consider it.
We have a 9th/10th grade US History teacher at the lounge who's an interesting character. Fiscally conservative socially liberal - by his own description but he's more outspokenly conservative than most on every social issue I can think of.
Looking forward to picking his brain on this take

One question you didn't answer;
Are you for the defense of human ownership?
If a sovereign state in our union wanted that right for it's citizens, you would be against shedding blood to stop it?

I'd personally support a civil war to stop the legalized practice of child murder. As the national curse for that practice has got to be past due for payment in blood.



It's not my take, it's Lincoln's own words that embarrasses his idolaters. That's why they don't read them.
They'd rather let some leftist or neocon historical deceiver channel Lincoln's spirit and tell them what Lincoln thought and why the war occurred. Real history is weird, bizarre, and not at all as tidy as the cartoon version where there is only the good guy and the bad guy.

Now when someone asks "Are you for the defense of human ownership?" My first reaction is that's a dumb question to ask a libertarian. Like duh! Likewise you ask "If a sovereign state in our union wanted that right for it's citizens, you would be against shedding blood to stop it?" First off yours is another hypothetical question, but who in this day and age in America would advocate for a return to chattel slavey anyway —Nobody except some freaks.
Second, if a state is sovereign, invading it is a criminal act for any reason, defined as an act of treason in the Constitution. "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. "Them" is the members of the compact, the states.

Like I've said before, the only people nowadays that are in favor of human ownership are the progressives. They claim they own you, your kids, your property, and your income and they believe they can pass any law to do so as they want. Their mechanisms are more subtle than outright chattel slavery, but they are just as coercive and laced with threats of violence if you don't obey them.

Dg west deptford Offline
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Agreed!
bgz Offline
#87 Posted:
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Man... you hate the left so much I'm surprised you still take left turns... You probably want take a trip to Australia just to watch your sh*t flush down to the left.
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Spoken like a true nave of progressivism🦜. No solutions just codswallop that didn't flush, from the past.

Let's hear you answer,yes or no, and not deflect.
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Mommy, mommy I don't like these people, they play fair.😩

Nine

teedubbya Offline
#90 Posted:
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I’ll have to do some reading on CRT. I literally know nothing about it but it has folks jacked up.
bgz Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I’ll have to do some reading on CRT. I literally know nothing about it but it has folks jacked up.


Yeah, I've been hearing about it more lately in conversation... then spey getting crumbled drawers over it, figured I had to go read about it a little.

It's like all stuff that's been known forever (at least to brown people) with a lot of exaggerations thrown in.

It's like it's meant to keep poor white people down about how bad their people are... keep em crying... this is an idealism for woke white people to let them point their finger at the poor brown people all while kicking down their own poor. White people weaponizing CRT is actually a racist act... it's almost self defeating.

Woke white people are weird.
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Still gonna read up on it. I'm always amused at the things that have been out there for years and people have no idea about but then they somehow emerge with immediacy and outrage. Usually you can track why they are emerging now and from what sources and how those sources are conducting the outrage with a certain group that would swear they are independent unbiased thinkers.

The fauci 2012 writings are another example. They have been available and public since that time. Never touched by anyone until just the last few weeks when the outrage meter goes to defcon levels when folks don't read the source (or don't understand the source) and instead listen to the version as described to them (how they are supposed to think). Folks don't pause and think "hmm if this is what it really says and meant, it has been out there since 2012 loud and proud, and fauci has enemies that would grab at anything to discredit him.... I wonder why it took until this moment and time for this very public evil work of his to surface. There is a really easy answer to that question. The outrage is disingenuous and manufactures and the interpretation of the writing and application are incorrect, skewed and self serving, and the folks pushing that know it but the minions down stream don't or don't care that they are part of a smear. It is just self serving.

Something tells me the CRT is the same or similar but I don't know enough about it to say that yet. It just seems like a huge raging clue driven intentionally by a certain group when perhaps if you look closer maybe semi-wood or just a little movement would have been appropriate years ago if anyone truly cared.
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The funniest effect of CRT seems to be that poor white people seems to be that it makes them proud they're smart enough to get an ID.

Over glorified... "Look what I can do".

Poor is poor... and poor is blind... and being poor sucks. That's why I choose not to be (said every non-poor person in the country).
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Like I said, I don't know enough. I need to learn more. There may be some merit to the real CRT rather than the CRT that has been described to people and they have grabbed on to. (Don't get wood right or left social warriors.... there is a difference between saying there is and saying I need to learn more because there may be. its not bad to learn at the root rather than blindly following your youtube bloggers and entertainment news sources). Not climbing on the outrage train to figure things out for one's self is not a weakness or being on the other side. It is a sign of cognitive thought.

It's not all bad to actually try to learn what something really is and why instead of tossing one off to the weekly outrage and pretending to be an expert on something a couple weeks ago you'd never heard of.
bgz Offline
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But I don't have sources... I just skim wikipedia, come up with an argument that's likely to p1ss everyone off, then hit the button.
teedubbya Offline
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oh I understand your approach. I'm just not replicating it LOL
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Better to be piss-on,than piss-off...
RayR Offline
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bgz wrote:
Man... you hate the left so much I'm surprised you still take left turns... You probably want take a trip to Australia just to watch your sh*t flush down to the left.


The progressive brain is like a plugged-up toilet. Full of crap
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CRT goes to far, but the WASP version of history is worse. I would like to see our real history taught.
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MACS,

When it comes to English I am a idiot and you are smart.
Criminology, policing, and the military ditto.
The Bible and religion ditto.

In regards to science your comments here have proven you are an idiot. If I agreed with you we would both be idiots. I read studies, white papers, peer reviews, FDA reports, CDC reports, NIH reports and more. You find an article written by a chiropractor and so on that states what you want to believe.

Bluntly put, your stupidity, insecurity, pettiness, and fear are as great as anyone I have ever interacted with. For years you have disparaged myself when you drunk post, though I had not directly attacked you. I have made my point so I will no further interact with you other than to point out your inaccuracies, with proof.
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