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tonygraz Offline
#801 Posted: Fri, Mar 24 2023, 4:57 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
It fell over..?? Huh


No, it means it filled with water and sunk - then sometimes it was floundered.
MACS Offline
#802 Posted: Fri, Mar 24 2023, 6:40 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:

Edit: One of the ships was listed as Foundered.
Any of you ship people know what that means to a civilian?


IIRC it means sunk to da bottom... on purpose.

The USS Sterett (CG-31) was my first ship... disposal or torn apart and recycled.
USS McKee (AS-41) was my second ship... disposal or torn apart and recycled.
USS Ogden (LPD-5) was my third ship... she was foundered off the coast of Hawaii to make an artificial reef.
USS Mobile Bay (CG-53) was my fourth and final ship... still in service, since 1987.
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#803 Posted: Fri, Mar 24 2023, 9:00 PM EST
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^^^
ship killah!
8trackdisco Offline
#804 Posted: Fri, Mar 24 2023, 10:16 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
IIRC it means sunk to da bottom... on purpose.

The USS Sterett (CG-31) was my first ship... disposal or torn apart and recycled.
USS McKee (AS-41) was my second ship... disposal or torn apart and recycled.
USS Ogden (LPD-5) was my third ship... she was foundered off the coast of Hawaii to make an artificial reef.
USS Mobile Bay (CG-53) was my fourth and final ship... still in service, since 1987.


Thank you, sailor.
8trackdisco Offline
#805 Posted: Sat, Apr 8 2023, 11:23 AM EST
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While pennies were historically made from a copper-based bronze composition, that is not the case with 2022 pennies. They, like most pennies since 1982, were struck in a copper-plated zinc metallic profile. A standard 2022 penny should weigh approximately 2.5 grams
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#806 Posted: Mon, Apr 17 2023, 8:15 PM EST
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Garage Springs.

When you open and then close the garage door, it is called a Cycle.
Because springs are now made of recycled metal, they don't last nearly as long.

The average garage springs have a lifespan of 10,000 cycles. 22,000 and 33,000 are also options.

Knowledge brought to you by a guy and his wife who had their vehicles trapped in the garage for five hours on Saturday.
deadeyedick Offline
#807 Posted: Mon, Apr 17 2023, 8:26 PM EST
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AFAIK all garages can be opened manually. Maybe no?
BuckyB93 Offline
#808 Posted: Mon, Apr 17 2023, 8:36 PM EST
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Speaking from experience... you don't want to be near the spring when it snaps. Lot's of energy stored in there. Most of them have a cable threaded through the middle so if it snaps it doesn't go ballistic.

Was trying fix a garage door at my ex father-in-law's house many years ago. Older version of garage doors. The spring snapped (dislodged from the pin/bolt) at one end... franking A... if there were any fingers or appendages near the area there would have been some 911 calls.
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#809 Posted: Mon, Apr 17 2023, 8:40 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
AFAIK all garages can be opened manually. Maybe no?


If you have an automatic garage door opener, there's usually or rope that you can pull on to disengage the opener so you can open and close it manually.

Eight Ohh NINE!
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#810 Posted: Mon, Apr 17 2023, 9:54 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
If you have an automatic garage door opener, there's usually or rope that you can pull on to disengage the opener so you can open and close it manually.

Eight Ohh NINE!

yup.
typically a handle at the bottom of the rope hanging in front of the opener on the ceiling when the door is closed, give a tug and it disengages the thingy from the whatchit and the door reverts back to it's manual birth state.
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#811 Posted: Mon, Apr 17 2023, 9:55 PM EST
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works even when there is a blackout
dkeage Offline
#812 Posted: Mon, Apr 17 2023, 9:57 PM EST
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Y’all shaming 8TRACK??? Not talking
frankj1 Offline
#813 Posted: Mon, Apr 17 2023, 10:17 PM EST
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dkeage wrote:
Y’all shaming 8TRACK??? Not talking

so far, yup.


reminds me of the old Blonde in the Cadillac joke when the Blonde calls roadside assistance to report she is locked in her car...
MACS Offline
#814 Posted: Tue, Apr 18 2023, 5:44 AM EST
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Speaking from experience... even light, aluminum garage doors, like most are nowadays, are difficult to lift without the help of that stupid spring.

Had one bust in the CA home after 17 years or so... and had to muscle the door open and hold it in place with a screwdriver through one of the track holes. I wasn't trapped for 5 hours, because, well... I'm wicked smaht.

Can't remember what it cost me to have 2 of the effers replaced, but there was one on each side. Couple hundy, IIRC.
tonygraz Offline
#815 Posted: Tue, Apr 18 2023, 11:28 AM EST
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dkeage wrote:
Y’all shaming 8TRACK??? Not talking


Maybe he was just too busy weighing his pennies.
8trackdisco Offline
#816 Posted: Tue, Apr 18 2023, 8:33 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
AFAIK all garages can be opened manually. Maybe no?



Not a two stall, single opener system set up when the garage door is also fully insulated for Wisconsin winters.
8trackdisco Offline
#817 Posted: Tue, Apr 18 2023, 8:38 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
If you have an automatic garage door opener, there's usually or rope that you can pull on to disengage the opener so you can open and close it manually.

Eight Ohh NINE!


Yes, it has a release. The door weighs 200+ pounds.
Tried lifting it. Felt like I dropped a nut into my sock.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#818 Posted: Tue, Apr 18 2023, 9:46 PM EST
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Lift with the legs. Not the back
MACS Offline
#819 Posted: Wed, Apr 19 2023, 9:21 AM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Lift with the legs. Not the sack


Won't drop nuts that way...
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#820 Posted: Wed, Apr 19 2023, 11:13 AM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Lift with the legs. Not the back

So hard to get a grip on stuff with my knees, though. I usually just lift with my hands.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#821 Posted: Wed, Apr 19 2023, 2:04 PM EST
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Some are just more talented than others I guess
frankj1 Offline
#822 Posted: Wed, Apr 19 2023, 10:01 PM EST
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better balance with a tripod
8trackdisco Offline
#823 Posted: Wed, Apr 26 2023, 3:17 PM EST
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The Universe is 13.8 billion years old. Did anyone send it a card?
DrafterX Offline
#824 Posted: Wed, Apr 26 2023, 3:50 PM EST
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Elon was supposed to deliver it... Mellow
8trackdisco Offline
#825 Posted: Wed, Apr 26 2023, 5:19 PM EST
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Pinar del Río, the region in Western Cuba where most of the country’s premium tobacco is grown, is facing perhaps the worst tobacco harvest in history, according to a report by Granma, the Cuban state-run newspaper. The lingering effects of Hurricane Ian, which destroyed most of Pinar del Río’s tobacco barns in late September, are largely to blame.

The hurricane made landfall in Pinar del Río on September 27, and tore across the island with winds in excess of 100 miles per hour, leveling about 90 percent of the region’s tobacco curing barns, more than 10,000 structures in all. Burdened by the impossible task of rebuilding them all in time for the growing season, Tabacuba, the agricultural arm of Cuba’s tobacco industry, said in a report that it would prioritize the highest-quality farms to meet export demands. Tabacuba cited lack of building materials as the main problem.

Edit: You could argue this should be posted in Cigars & Related. However (comma) it is knowledge recently acquired. So..
nanny-nanny-boo-boo!
MACS Offline
#826 Posted: Wed, Apr 26 2023, 9:28 PM EST
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Likely why stock is very limited at every vendor I know of... and why the price is 3+ times what it was pre-covid.

Sucks to be Cuba, for more reasons than just communism now. Ain't a lot of people gonna buy those cigars for those prices.

I'm learning to like NC's now that they're cheaper than Cubans. If ya can't afford what you like... learn to like what you can afford.
8trackdisco Offline
#827 Posted: Thu, Apr 27 2023, 6:58 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
Likely why stock is very limited at every vendor I know of... and why the price is 3+ times what it was pre-covid.

Sucks to be Cuba, for more reasons than just communism now. Ain't a lot of people gonna buy those cigars for those prices.

I'm learning to like NC's now that they're cheaper than Cubans. If ya can't afford what you like... learn to like what you can afford.


90% of the curing barns, and the tobacco therein all gone. More from the article...

Cuba had originally planned for farmers in Pinar del Río to plant around 11,000 hectares of tobacco (about 28,000 acres) for the 2022-23 season, but they will most likely struggle to achieve even half that amount. So far, 5,150 hectares (about 12,726 acres) have been planted, according to Granma. Harvesting this amount of leaf will require approximately 4,000 curing barns, and currently, only 1,400 have been built.
rfenst Offline
#828 Posted: Thu, Apr 27 2023, 11:15 AM EST
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Covid ravaged rolling production.

Covid increased cigar demand such that they ran out of stored tobacco for production.

Oil price spiked.

Supply chain function was grossly impaired for a long time- and then the hurricane completely ruined it all, making the prices even higher.







MACS, I am down to my last 25 or so single Havanas. No idea what my next move will be.
8trackdisco Offline
#829 Posted: Thu, Apr 27 2023, 1:43 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Covid ravaged rolling production.

Covid increased cigar demand such that they ran out of stored tobacco for production.


Quite a dichotomy.
-Covid ravages production due to a respiration disease.
-Cigar demand is up during the spread of the same disease.

Weird.
rfenst Offline
#830 Posted: Thu, Apr 27 2023, 3:02 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Quite a dichotomy.
-Covid ravages production due to a respiration disease.
-Cigar demand is up during the spread of the same disease.

Weird.


Ravaged production due to sick workers and closed factories.

Increased demand from everyone staying home and/or receiving stimulus and having more disposable income due to decreased expenses and Covid stimulus (paid by many countries).
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#831 Posted: Thu, Apr 27 2023, 6:06 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Quite a dichotomy.
-Covid ravages production due to a respiration disease.
-Cigar demand is up during the spread of the same disease.

Weird.



Ironic
Brewha Offline
#832 Posted: Fri, Apr 28 2023, 7:22 AM EST
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The speed of light has never been measured in one direction. We use a mirror and measure the there and back speed.

It is only assumed that light travel the same speed in all direction - but never proven.
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#833 Posted: Fri, Apr 28 2023, 7:37 AM EST
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And ugly travels to the mirror and back just as fast.
Brewha Offline
#834 Posted: Fri, Apr 28 2023, 8:48 AM EST
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Some would say faster....
Palama Offline
#835 Posted: Sat, Apr 29 2023, 8:45 PM EST
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I don't know if this post belongs here or in the Politics section but 78 years ago today, American forces liberated the Dachau Concentration Camp.
8trackdisco Offline
#836 Posted: Sat, Apr 29 2023, 9:11 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
And ugly travels to the mirror and back just as fast.


It was always harder to determine ugly in the early a.m. on the weekends. At least during the second half of the 80s.
8trackdisco Offline
#837 Posted: Fri, May 5 2023, 9:18 AM EST
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Giraffes have the same number of vertebrae in their necks as humans do.
tonygraz Offline
#838 Posted: Fri, May 5 2023, 11:19 AM EST
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Does that include football linemen ?
Palama Offline
#839 Posted: Fri, May 5 2023, 3:16 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Does that include football linemen ?


“Us” linemen have the same number, they’re just packed tighter together…much tighter! Gonz
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#840 Posted: Sat, May 13 2023, 9:16 AM EST
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I've heard of switch hitters in baseball (can bat either right or left handed). Never heard of a switch pitcher.

Venditte was a switch pitcher, capable of pitching proficiently with both arms. He was recognized as the only professional pitcher who was able to do this. Venditte's rare ability to pitch with either arm required both Major and Minor League Baseball to create a rule for ambidextrous pitchers, known colloquially as the "Pat Venditte Rule". This rule essentially requires any ambidextrous pitcher to declare which hand he will use to pitch to a batter before the at-bat starts and to throw with that hand through the entire at-bat (unless he is injured during the at-bat).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRqnRLu5RBo
MACS Offline
#841 Posted: Sat, May 13 2023, 9:32 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Giraffes have the same number of vertebrae in their necks as humans do.


They're just A LOT bigger, eh?
BuckyB93 Offline
#842 Posted: Sat, May 13 2023, 10:35 AM EST
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Cows can be used to sniff out bad guys

http://www.cigarbid.com/...ed-stitches-#post4719863
Palama Offline
#843 Posted: Sat, May 13 2023, 6:41 PM EST
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Haven’t watched much baseball this season but in the San Diego - LA Dodgers game, “Dodger Blue” sure looks darker. Or am mis-remembering? Think

Edit: I think in this particular game I’m not used to seeing them with the dark blue tops.
tonygraz Offline
#844 Posted: Sat, May 13 2023, 8:04 PM EST
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Maybe they changed detergent to wash the uniforms with.
deadeyedick Offline
#845 Posted: Sun, May 14 2023, 7:21 AM EST
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Palama wrote:
Haven’t watched much baseball this season but in the San Diego - LA Dodgers game, “Dodger Blue” sure looks darker. Or am mis-remembering? Think

Edit: I think in this particular game I’m not used to seeing them with the dark blue tops.


I hear everything's darker in L A these days.
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#846 Posted: Tue, May 16 2023, 12:14 PM EST
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Apparently Celebration now has a Columbia location.
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#847 Posted: Thu, May 18 2023, 9:59 PM EST
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Heard the term Struggle Session. Didn’t know what it was, so…..

Struggle sessions or denunciation rallies were violent public spectacles in Maoist China where people accused of being "class enemies" were publicly humiliated, accused, beaten and tortured by people with whom they were close.[1][2] Usually conducted at the workplace, classrooms and auditoriums, "students were pitted against their teachers, friends and spouses were pressured to betray one another, [and] children were manipulated into exposing their parents".[2] Staging, scripts and agitators were prearranged by the Maoists to incite crowd support.[1] The aim was to instill a crusading spirit among the crowd to promote the Maoist thought reform. These rallies were most popular in the mass campaigns immediately before and after the establishment of the People's Republic of China and during the Cultural Revolution.[3][4]

We are seeing a different flavor of this here.
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#848 Posted: Fri, May 19 2023, 5:40 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Heard the term Struggle Session. Didn’t know what it was, so…..

Struggle sessions or denunciation rallies were violent public spectacles in Maoist China where people accused of being "class enemies" were publicly humiliated, accused, beaten and tortured by people with whom they were close.[1][2] Usually conducted at the workplace, classrooms and auditoriums, "students were pitted against their teachers, friends and spouses were pressured to betray one another, [and] children were manipulated into exposing their parents".[2] Staging, scripts and agitators were prearranged by the Maoists to incite crowd support.[1] The aim was to instill a crusading spirit among the crowd to promote the Maoist thought reform. These rallies were most popular in the mass campaigns immediately before and after the establishment of the People's Republic of China and during the Cultural Revolution.[3][4]

We are seeing a different flavor of this here.


There is a scene in the movie "The Last Emperor," that shows the former king's post royalty "re-educator" being paraded through town when the former king, who had become a commoner, objects to the newest regime punishing his old "re-educator" by saying something like: I know this man. He is a good man...

Haven't watched that movie in years- but would again in a heartbeat.
MACS Offline
#849 Posted: Fri, May 19 2023, 8:00 PM EST
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Post 847 - Yeeeaaaup.
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#850 Posted: Sat, May 27 2023, 9:08 PM EST
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Prior to the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, various locations were considered as potential Jewish homelands. Here are a few notable examples:

Uganda (East Africa Scheme): In the early 1900s, the British offered a proposal known as the Uganda Plan, suggesting the establishment of a Jewish homeland in what is now Uganda. However, this plan was met with mixed reactions and ultimately rejected by the Zionist movement in favor of a homeland in the historic land of Israel.

Argentina: During the early 20th century, discussions emerged around the idea of establishing a Jewish homeland in Argentina. The Argentine government even offered land for Jewish settlement in the province of Entre Rios. However, this proposal did not gain widespread support within the Jewish community.

Cyprus: In the years leading up to Israel's establishment, Cyprus was considered as a temporary haven for Jewish refugees escaping Nazi persecution during World War II. British authorities established detention camps for Jewish refugees on the island, which later became a staging point for Jewish emigration to Palestine.

It's important to note that while these alternative locations were considered, the primary focus of the Zionist movement, led by figures like Theodor Herzl, was to establish a Jewish homeland in the historic land of Israel, which had significant historical and religious significance to the Jewish people.
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