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SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#21

Show me other "Google" evidence of the world banks you list above. I'd like to see that.

Also to what end is this conspiracy? What is the desired end state?

Well when you agree that those quote and facts i stated are true we can get to the next point,it is a low level tactic in debates to corner whoever is facing you with just questions no fact no answers just doubtful questions,one after another to keep a strong grip on the other,wait for one misplaced fact,one single mistake no matter how irrelevant it is to the debate,to reject the whole idea.Sorry buddy i'm not gonna fall for that.

gringococolo
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#22

i think you are computer literate if you are posting here so you can look for those evidence by yourself cause they are there but first you need an open mind so you can stop rejecting everything different.

Well when you agree that those quote and facts i stated are true we can get to the next point,it is a low level tactic in debates to corner whoever is facing you with just questions no fact no answers just doubtful questions,one after another to keep a strong grip on the other,wait for one misplaced fact,one single mistake no matter how irrelevant it is to the debate,to reject the whole idea.Sorry buddy i'm not gonna fall for that.

SmokingGuns wrote:

All your facts are true.

To what end is this conspiracy?

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#23

Here's some. Kuhn, Loeb & Co, was bought by Lehman Bros in 1977. Lehman Bros claimed bankruptcy in 2008. The list goes on and on.

The Federal Reserve Bank is a consortium of twelve private banks which are not part of the United States Government.

These private banks purchase paper notes from the U.S. mint for printing cost or simply enter digital money into their computer then lend back the money plus interest to the people through member banks. The profits go into the share holders of the bank's pocket's, the U.S. public receives no benefit.

The Primary Owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Are:
1. Rothschild's of London and Berlin
2. Lazard Brothers of Paris
3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy
4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York
5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany
6. Lehman Brothers of New York
7. Goldman, Sachs of New York
8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York

Lehman Bros claimed bankruptcy in 2008

well if anything triggered this big economical mess we are in now it will be that along with other reason, their bankruptcy is a mystery that puzzled many economists specially when you ask yourself this question Did it make more sense to lend AIG $180 billion when they have $60 billion in collateral, instead of lending $30 billion to save Lehman?

gringococolo
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#24

I thought this might become entertaining, but it has not. Enjoy your conspiracys.

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#25

All your facts are true.

To what end is this conspiracy?

Very simple: CONTROL, when you hold the nation and people in a constant state of debt,you have power over everything,it is the best investment ever,there will be always a government to borrow and there will be always a population to secure the payment of those loans+ the outrageous interest.

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#26

I thought this might become entertaining, but it has not. Enjoy your conspiracys.

trust me buddy it will be even less entertaining when you will need 10.000$ to get a full tank of gas.Good luck

robertknyc
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#27

First RICKAMAVEN, now Ricky Ricardo. More loons.

Robertknyc, I commend your effort, but this dude is misinformed and brainwashed,.... or is it US? [que Twilight Zone music]

gringococolo wrote:

Thanks gringo, I think you're right. He thinks banks OWN the Fed, when they are merely members. His list is about 30 years outdated anyway. Kuhn, Loeb was bought by Lehman in 1977, and the David Rockefeller used to chairman of Chase Manhattan, but he retired in 1981. Obviously I'm not going to waste my time attempting to debate someone who is so wrong on the facts and seems capable only of cutting and pasting his answers.

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#28

Obviously I'm not going to waste my time attempting to debate someone who is so wrong on the facts and seems capable only of cutting and pasting his answers.

All you did is reject all i said,i didn't create those persons, i didn't write those statement i quoted, they are real they were said by those honest people, if you were an open minded person who could be debated you would ask yourself one question : if former US president, congressmen,senator said all that is there any possible way it could be true ? then you start researching to find more info about it, so at the end you reject it or confirm it, but you sir decide to ignore the facts,to fully reject everything that doesn't fit your prejudgments,you didnt state any fact sir, all you did is ridicule me and my statements.
About the copy-paste sir if you are not fan of it you shouldn't be using a computer that is the new way to argument and debate, before people used to quote from book,newspapers, now they just copy-paste it,and i invite you to do the same if you can find quotes that backs you opinion.
That list is of banks that held and still hold a share in the fed reserve and it is simplified to fit as a list since you wanted names,any way you can stop wasting your time by not posting anything again so it is up to you.

Edited by user 15 years ago | Reason: Not specified

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#29

Let me ask all of you a simple question: what country in its right mind would create a system that would force it to lend itself money and have to repay the money WITH INTEREST? What country would charge itself interest? What nation would put itself out of business by making it bankrupt because of interest?

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#30

Could anyone with some logic answer the above question? :-"

jpotts
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#31

SmokingGuns wrote:

One that is able to create new wealth via a burgeoning private sector.

I know that's a foreign concept these days, but it used to be the case.

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#32

One that is able to create new wealth via a burgeoning private sector

the question is new wealth for who?? may be for the private banks who are lending the money?🇨🇮

MCAddict
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#33

Obtuse observation: Is your avatar Charlie Sheen? Or maybe your ARE Charlie Sheen....that would explain quite a bit here.

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#34

Obtuse observation: Is your avatar Charlie Sheen? Or maybe your ARE Charlie Sheen....that would explain quite a bit here.

NO sir and i didn't know who that was until i googled his name,sorry to disappoint you.

MCAddict
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#35

NO sir and i didn't know who that was until i googled his name,sorry to disappoint you.

SmokingGuns wrote:

No disappointment here...and you take yourself WAY to seriously.[gonzo]

DadZilla3
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#36

SmokingGuns wrote:

Oh...I'd say any country that has a government under the control of an oligarchy, a ruling elite whose self-interest is paramount; above the law, insulated and protected by their positions of power and influence.

SmokingGuns
Connoisseur Topic Starter

15 years ago

#37

One that is able to create new wealth via a burgeoning private sector.

The Fed basically loans money to the U.S. treasury with interest, which the Treasury could easily create for itself without interest. There is absolutely no need for the Fed. This is why both Lincoln and Kennedy tried to mint "US Treasury Notes" and shut down the central banks of their eras. Funny what happened to them immediately after they tried to do this........

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#38

Obtuse observation: Is your avatar Charlie Sheen? Or maybe your ARE Charlie Sheen....that would explain quite a bit here.

MCAddict wrote:

That my friends is Ernesto "Che" Guevara. The Cuban butcher. The muscle behind Castro's sweep to power. The REAL revolutionary element.

DadZilla3
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#39

If you didn't 'know' better, you might begin to suspect that anyone who messes with the FED ends up badly.

Edited by user 15 years ago | Reason: Not specified

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#40

If you didn't 'know' better, you might begin to suspect that anyone who messes with the FED ends up badly.

DadZilla3 wrote:

Why I do believe someone is doing their research!

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