President Obama is doing a damned fine job, no matter where he was born ...

leonardo wrote:

do you mean to say that in addition to the POTUS, there is another person named Obama that is a president of something ??

SteveS wrote:

Not sayin' the short form birth certificate isn't enough to allow someone to be President, just that it isn't enough to get a passport (at least the short birth certificates from CA).

leonardo wrote:

gotta disagree with you here. As posted on the prior page -- I have used my Cali. short-form Certificate of Live Birth to get my passport w/out any problem. Also accepted by/used to establish US citizenship for Dept. of State, Dept. of Homeland Security, and USCIS without any problems. Was accepted by and authenticated by US Sec. of State for proof of US Citizenship for international adoption.

It is just as valid of proof of US birth as if the official record keeper of vital statistics stood in court, and stated under oath that the original is on file in the official records of the state. In fact, that is what it is -- as certified statement of the state's vital statistics records. You can not get one if there is not a actual birth certificate on file with the state.

jojoc wrote:

I believe you, but it didn't work for my son. Below is a copy and paste from travel.state.gov. Believe me, I tried to argue with them, told them something similar to what you wrote about the validity, but they required the long form. I found a site that got me the long form in something like 2 days, so it worked out ok but they definitely required the long form. I don't know, maybe they changed their policy in the past 3 months -- this was this past October.


"*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes."

leonardo wrote:

I have no idea what document you were trying to use but my cert of birth is nearly identical to the one the prez has provided and it manages to get passports, security clearances etc. And, mine is not original and has been modified (totally different birth name ... first, middle, and last all changed, as well as birth parents). I can not obtain the original even if I want it.

Barry sucks at prez. but is an American. It's pretty hard to respect or take serious anyone who believes or perpetuates this crap (for real. In here it's just good entertainment)

teedubbya wrote:

I don't know what the big deal is anyway. I mean, I don't think the President even needs a passport, right?

leonardo wrote:

Isn't it the case that if at least one of your parents are American, you are considered a citizen no matter where you are born? Not that I would mind if Barry was bounced out of office, and I don't know why he doesn't release the certificate, but I think if one of your parents is American, you're in.

robertknyc wrote:

Isn't it the case that if at least one of your parents are American, you are considered a citizen no matter where you are born? Not that I would mind if Barry was bounced out of office, and I don't know why he doesn't release the certificate, but I think if one of your parents is American, you're in.

robertknyc wrote:

Way back in post #29 was this...

"Obama lived in Indonesia when that country did not allow duel citizenship, so his mother would have had to renounce hers and Obama’s, and once lost, natural born status can never be reinstated."

Any questions?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

So when one lives in a foreign country they must renounce their citizenship? Man, I'm never gonna travel out of this land again.

dsmokers wrote:

I'm no expert on the matter, but the issue is not that Obama visited Indonesia, but that he was schooled there.
It has been reported that back then they had a law that only citizens could go to school in their country.

tailgater wrote:

So when one lives in a foreign country they must renounce their citizenship? Man, I'm never gonna travel out of this land again.

dsmokers wrote: