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HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#41

A Turk, an Armenian, and a mechanical engineer walk into a bar. The Armenian offers to buy the Turk a drink. The Turk shoots him.

You're right, Turk/Armenian humor does suck.

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#42

I also really resent the cavalier and inflammatory use of terms like Auschwitz here (and other Nazi terms regarding Israel) in these posts.
A little respect is in order.

frankj1 wrote:

Well,Frank,,,

I'm offended by the murder of babies.

The comparison of A Death Camp and an Abortion Mill is correct...

Btw,,,

Abortion is legal in Israel,they're hypocrits.

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#43

Btw,,,

Abortion is legal in Israel,they're hypocrits.

wheelrite wrote:

WTF does Israel have to do with Planned Parenthood funding by the U.S.?

hoyodude
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#44

WTF does Israel have to do with Planned Parenthood funding by the U.S.?

rfenst wrote:

Whoa,whoa,whoa...you weren't expecting a rational discussion on THIS subject HERE, were you Robert? I mean...you DO remember what form this is....right?

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#45

Whoa,whoa,whoa...you weren't expecting a rational discussion on THIS subject HERE, were you Robert? I mean...you DO remember what form this is....right?

hoyodude wrote:

LOL!!!
I just want to read the "boot-strapped" reasoning!

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#46

LOL!!!
I just want to read the "boot-strapped" reasoning!

rfenst wrote:

"Frank " referred to Israel for no apparent reason in his feigned outrage...

I just thought I'd outrage him some more...

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#47

"Frank " referred to Israel for no apparent reason in his feigned outrage...

I just thought I'd outrage him some more...

wheelrite wrote:

Wheel,
I did make a very broad refence when I first objected to Holocaust terms being tossed about. I incorrectly implied that your use of Auschwitz had any reference to Israel at all...what I had in mind was previous threads where terms like "concentration camp" were used to describe Israel's control of Palestinians and other nazi behaviors being used on Israel. I find that to be purposeful "Jew baiting" and I want to let you know that I was incorrect to include your useage in this thread.

In fact, I do understand your feelings on abortion and believe I am on record here as saying that despite being Pro Choice, I could never live with making the decision to abort. I choose life but do not believe in forcing my desires, no matter how benevolent, on other Americans.

Would you not be outraged if someone compared unrelated things by using statements like "after police shot the drug dealers, the apartment looked like the back room of an illegal abortion clinic"? Doesn't that cheapen and demean an issue that you feel so strongly about in your heart? It has nothing to do with abortion, and most of the times here when Holocaust terms are used, they have no connection to the real deal. If something hit close to your family, you'd want those memories respected by your American compatriots.

Also, I can see the top of your head when I stand.

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#48

frankj1 wrote:

No you can't..
I'm really 5ft 11 inches ..

No harm no foul...🇨🇮

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#49

No you can't..
I'm really 5ft 11 inches ..

No harm no foul...🇨🇮

wheelrite wrote:

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#50

frankj1 wrote:

I really am...

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#51

I really am...

wheelrite wrote:

am what...ok, or 5-11?

I'm really ok and 6-1. I was lying when I said I could see the top of your head.

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#52

am what...ok, or 5-11?

I'm really ok and 6-1. I was lying when I said I could see the top of your head.

frankj1 wrote:

sadly..

There's not so much hair on the top of my head to see ....

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#53

I saw the top of Wheel's head just this morning...

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#54

^
Suffolk County House of Correction humor?

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#55

I saw the top of Wheel's head just this morning...

tailgater wrote:

could'nt have been me ...

This morning I was banging my old lady...

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#56

frankj1 wrote:

Frank,
I've been on these boards since almost day one, and over those years I've seen some (and have contributed some) ignorant posts.
And while some folks have taken real offense or perhaps feigned some outrage, I've not seen any "purposeful Jew baiting".

Now, I know you're no longer including this thread, but I would like to see what you consider Jew baiting because an ill conceived comparison simply does not qualify.

Your American compatriots might use a little hyperbole by including holocaust references, but it's usually to express utter disgust with some topic. And what topic is better to use as the "pinnacle" of modern horror than the holocaust?

I'm not suggesting that holocaust references be used in daily conversations to make one's point. I'm just saying that even a classless and inappropriate usage should not be viewed a "baiting" anything.

But I could be wrong. So if specific references truly do support your claim, I'd be interested in seeing them.

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#57

could'nt have been me ...

This morning I was banging my old lady...

wheelrite wrote:

I don't know how Hallmark hasn't snagged your talents yet.

wheelrite
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

15 years ago

#58

I don't know how Hallmark hasn't snagged your talents yet.

tailgater wrote:

I know,,,

What's up with that ??

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#59

..what I had in mind was previous threads where terms like "concentration camp" were used to describe Israel's control of Palestinians and other nazi behaviors being used on Israel. I find that to be purposeful "Jew baiting" and

frankj1 wrote:

Question:

This thing has 4 walls. All walls have armed guards. Nobody can leave or enter without permission. Movement within the four walls is restricted. When the people inside the walls get uppitty and revolt, they are bombed or shot. Periodically the walls are moved tighter and the land that used to be inside the walls is now used to build new houses for the guards. The guards fly jets and helicopters over the people inside the wall every day. Guards freely move within the walls to check on the people inside the walls.

Answer:

A. A concentration camp
B. The Gaza Strip
C. The West Bank
D. All of the above

It is time to give that land its freedom or they and others will eventually take it. Stop funding the camps with USA taxpayer money. Stop staffing the walls with USA taxpayer supplied equipment. Israel staffs the walls and the USA is the only nation left on the planet that supports the continued operation of the camps. Speak out against and you will be called an anti-semite. Be a Jew and speak out against it and you will be called self-loathing. The terms have been overplayed and have become meaningless.

End it now. Tear down the walls.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

15 years ago

#60

I may get to elaborate after work, delighted to have caused critical thought.

So many answers to ABC and D that may also answer Tailgater. But is it at all possible to not be baiting when calling a nation (and America's most trusted ally if real world war breaks out btw) by the same terms as those used to describe the nation that came dangerously close to wiping all Jews off the face of Europe and beyond? Is that not being just a bit beyond clever and provocative? I can not explain the depth of pain you create for the survivors and relations of those extinguished systemtically by the Nazis by calling today's Israel and by extension Judaism (it is the Jewish Homeland, no?) by the most hideous terms their ears can hear. You guys are bright. come up with new insults. I don't even think you are antisemites, just what you consider playful is beyond playful.

Tough to have feigned outrage about the genocide of your own. Duh!

Israel is not systematically solving today's version of the Jewish Problem .Hell, the new borders were taken as a result of being ATTACKED on all fronts at the exact same moment (talk about genocide!)and then pushing back. No nation in history was ever denounced nor told to return said land taken in its own defense! Egypt saw the light and entered into serious peace treaty while Israeli soldiers sat 90 miles from Cairo. They then returned MOST of the land. Interesting the mention of four walls...would you say a nation surrounded by nations committed to its destruction is also inside of four walls? Would you agree that some restriction of movement may be the reason said nation still exists? Or is at least a bit more secure? Can you walk into Canada without being checked out. Ever hear Dylan's "Neighborhood Bully"?

Gotta go to work, but where do many Arabs and most Palestinians work, go to school, even hold citizenship and vote...alll legall? Now tell me how to negotiate with opposition that does not include Israel on the map of the world, says things like "the river to the sea" and would not allow my dirty feet to step inside of Mecca and other cities?

Want the walls down? Start by accepting Israel's right to exist and accept the 98% of the land that Arafat turned down...then TRY to get ONE SQUARE INCH of barren land donated by Jordan et al. Those nations are delighted that they don't have to take care of their disenfranchised people, Israel supplies more jobs and money and all else than any of their Islamic Brothers.

By the way, personally I do believe it is way past the time that there was a Palestine next to Israel, but not without guarantees of israeli security.

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