That is what your theory about a homosexual gene is right?

They have not found the homosexual gene right?

You are acting on beliefs Fuzz... Just admit it...

Oh and Rick, Fuzz and I are discussing... Neither are calling names or berating each other... Thank you BTW Fuzz!!!

elk hunter wrote:

Fuzz... Did you know see the part of stimulating some of your senses? If you are in the field of psychology shouldn't this be something that is in it?

Why do you like certain foods more than others.. certain cigars more than others? Yes, I will use some the logic/rationale that you probably do not like. You look at 2 humans... human A and human B, you examine their hair and shoulders, and eyes, and everything else... figure and such. When the humans speak, you pick up different tones and pitches and some are more pleasing to the sense then the other. Along with the physical features. Then you decide you are physically attracted to human A that represents the female species... and you do not find human B, a male, physically appealing.

You may not stop, and say to yourself, do I want to have an intimate relationship with human B....however.. you have the preference towards the female...

Could you have things that happen, and experiences that tend to change your stimulations when looking at either human A or human B where you may prefer the male... yes, things could happen and change. I use to not like asparagus when I was little... but now I love some grilled asparagus....I am not saying my preference in sexual orientation will change.. but it is a preference.

Nicar wrote:

I had said before that you may not consciously make the choice, but you do choose. I also knew you would not see the analogy. And is that scale anything like the lick-o-meter?

Nicar wrote:

The analogy? With food? Yes, I don't see it, nor do I accept it as a proper analogy to human sexual behavior.

And again, how does one make a choice unconsciously and if it's unconscious is it really a choice?

FuzzNJ wrote:

Open that mind. Do you consciously tell yourself which foot to put in front of the other? Probably another analogy that you will not accept.

I have stated a couple times that it is things that appeal to senses, that you prefer more than something else, and that is how you are making the choice without stopping to think if you want it or not.

Some is habit forming, some is society programming or environment programming.






"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.... "

Nicar wrote:

Freakin' hilarious. I had that Rush quote written in my last post, but erased it.

Conciously tell which foot, like say left, right, now left, etc? No, but I'm also not making a choice either.

So appealing to ones senses is effected by what? A consciouse choice or experience, our makeup, the environment or a combination of all of those things? To me appealing to my senses is the same as attraction to be honest, it's a distintion without a difference.

FuzzNJ wrote:

If being gay is genetic as Rick has stated or some combination of genetics and/or chemistry as FuzzNJ has suggested, this opens the door that scientists may one day find a cure.

You're welcome.

HockeyDad wrote:

He knows enough about religion, finance, Socratic Method, housekeeping, U2, and sexuality just to be dangerous to himself and to post here so his relatives can laugh AT him not with him.

What kind of a moron would post stuff up for his family to sit around and read...and laugh?

I'm thinking professional student that got trapped behind an apron because somebody is paying the bills.[frypan]

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Just because one isn't consciously saying to themselves.. which one do I choose....does not mean that you may or may not be making a choice.

I would also say that our makeup.. would need to be defined a bit more. Conscious choices, environment.. combination of things leads to our habits, our choices, our inclinations. Do you consciously make a decision to get out of bed every morning? It may be an act that is needed to be done to inable you to do something like shower, or eat, or to go outside to smoke. You are satisfying your senses. To satisfy some of your sexual senses, you find that women do it.. not all, but the ones you find attractive.. Does a really unattractive female give you some same feelings sexually as a male? Repulsive, unwanting or that "icky" feeling? Due to these sensations/feelings, this is why you believe you have not "choosen" to not be gay.. but however, you have choosen to only look to women to fulfill your sexual senses. You have programmed your mind to not even consider a male for it. This is how on can unconsciously make a choice.

Nicar wrote:

If being gay is genetic as Rick has stated or some combination of genetics and/or chemistry as FuzzNJ has suggested, this opens the door that scientists may one day find a cure.

You're welcome.

HockeyDad wrote:

I got a kick out of all the Socrates references from FuzzNJ this weekend. I saw Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure this weekend as well! The timing was suspicious.

HockeyDad wrote:

Just as long as there are no food analogys.. because that's like comparing apples and oranges!

Nicar wrote: