DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
How Ron Paul could win nomination - By David Rothschild

Ron Paul has a 7.5 percent likelihood of winning the Republican nomination, based on data from prediction markets. That puts him in 3rd place, behind Mitt Romney at 47.7 percent and Newt Gingrich at 33.7 percent, but ahead of Jon Huntsman at 5.4 percent.

Real Clear Politics has Paul at 9.3 percentage points in its latest aggregated poll trend for the Republican primary. Among active candidates, that puts him 3rd behind Gingrich at 33.3 percentage points and Romney at 22.0 percentage points. The prediction markets and polls paint a picture of the race for the Republican nomination that contrasts with many indicators talked about on the internet.


Ron Paul is by far the most popular candidate in The Signal's comment section. In every article we post there are streams of comments on Ron Paul. First, thank you for commenting! We appreciate that you are reading the articles and taking the time to comment on them. Yet, the readership of The Signal is not a representative sample of the relevant electorate and the subset of The Signal's readers that choose to post comments are an even less representative subset of the relevant electorate. Thus, being the most popular among those people who comment on this website is not a powerful indicator of the election outcome. What matters is the popularity among those people that will participate in the Republican primary contests.

Ron Paul is leading or in second place in many straw polls, but again, these are not representative samples of the relevant electorate. Straw polls are conducted among a self-selected group of highly motivated members of the electorate. They indicate strong and dedicated support, an important attribute in elections. But, elections are decided across a much larger electorate that does not resemble this smaller subgroup.

Similarly, Paul dominates positive tweets in an atmosphere that is incredibly negative. But, tweets originate from an unrepresentative segment of the electorate who can "vote" many, many times.

Prediction markets are the most efficient predictor of election results and they give Paul a non-negligible, but small likelihood of winning the Republican nomination. A prediction market allows political handicappers to back up their convictions with real money. The price is an aggregate reflection of how much people are willing to pay for contracts that expire at $1 if Paul wins the nomination and $0 if he does not. Users from around the world act based on any information they have, including well-known central signals of upcoming events like polls and past results, as well as less obvious, more disaggregated indicators.

Even if Ron Paul wins Iowa, where he is currently trailing only Gingrich, he faces a very difficult struggle to win the Republican nomination. A loss to Paul would greatly diminish Gingrich's position as the anyone-but-Romney candidate. There is a high likelihood that Paul would become the anyone-but-Romney candidate, but that is not guaranteed. So, if Paul is 28.8 percent likely to win Iowa, that mean he has at most a 28.8 percent likelihood of becoming the anyone-but-Romney candidate as a result of the Iowa Caucus.

Even if Paul becomes the anyone-but-Romney candidate, Romney would still be favored to win the nomination; Ron Paul is a very principled and disciplined libertarian, which does not put him near the mainstream Republican platform. As a libertarian, Paul has been very consistent in his belief in small government; he advocates little interference in domestic social policy, domestic economic policy, and foreign policy. Many of the leading Republican politicians have advocated a hands-off approach to the economy, but their record runs the spectrum from true libertarians to heavy influence on the side of certain business. Yet, the Republican party has at best mixed platform on government influence on social domestic policy and foreign policy, and very little interesting in trimming military spending.

Iowa is Paul's best hope of an early victory; a loss there would be devastating to his nomination hopes.

When I predict the outcome of the Republican primary, I am predicting what the data tells me what will happen, not what I wish would happen. I applaud Paul's strength of conviction, both when I agree and disagree with him. Paul's main path to victory is winning Iowa, becoming the anyone-but-Romney candidate and then beating Romney. Accomplishing all three is an unlikely, but possible task and that is why the prediction markets have Paul at 7.4 percent to the gain the nomination.

So, I pose the question to you, what do you think Paul's path to the nomination looks like? Follow along on PredictWise for real-time likelihoods of the Republican nomination and the individual Republican primaries.



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FuzzNJ
14 years ago
Paul's fans are fanatical, almost cult like in their devotion. Luckily it's just a small group.
chiefburg
14 years ago
And ObamaKs fans are all douchebags......what's your point?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

And ObamaKs fans are all douchebags......what's your point?

chiefburg wrote:



My point?

Paul's fans are fanatical, almost cult like in their devotion. Luckily it's just a small group.

FuzzNJ wrote:



ZRX1200
14 years ago
Damn pesky constitution....
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Damn pesky constitution....

ZRX1200 wrote:



Yeah, he's the protector of the realm. This is the guy who bought ads on stormfront's, the racist group, site and thinks we should pay for medical bills by bartering. yay him.

DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
His point is that he hates the principals that founded this nation. He buys the lies that he's a racist because he can't argue with the guy on any intelligent level. Name-calling is all he has.

He's in favor of a socialistic sloth cradle to grave government that wakes him up, brushes his teeth, gives him a job, puts food on his table and tucks him in at night.

He despises anyone that dares adheres to the Constitution or libertarian principals.

Therefore, he hates Dr. Paul, what he stands for and what this nation could be under his leadership.

A total audit of the Federal Reserve and the dismantling of it, the restoration of personal freedoms and a balanced budget are his groundwork.

The Kenyan King is the polar opposite and as we've seen is disasterous with the sheeple and Capitalism crumbling. His ineffective leadership is the same stylings of Mittens or Newt. Progressives suck open ass and have killed this nation.

If he doesn't win the nomination, I will be writing in his name.
ZRX1200
14 years ago
SEIU hates black people.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

His point is that he hates the principals that founded this nation. He buys the lies that he's a racist because he can't argue with the guy on any intelligent level. Name-calling is all he has.

He's in favor of a socialistic sloth cradle to grave government that wakes him up, brushes his teeth, gives him a job, puts food on his table and tucks him in at night.

He despises anyone that dares adheres to the Constitution or libertarian principals.

Therefore, he hates Dr. Paul, what he stands for and what this nation could be under his leadership.

A total audit of the Federal Reserve and the dismantling of it, the restoration of personal freedoms and a balanced budget are his groundwork.

The Kenyan King is the polar opposite and as we've seen is disasterous with the sheeple and Capitalism crumbling. His ineffective leadership is the same stylings of Mittens or Newt.

If he doesn't win the nomination, I will be writing in his name.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



lol

I wish I could be as righteous as you n stuff. As if you wouldn't mention it if a Democratic candidate bought ads on a racist web site.

So your position is that the founding fathers were libertarian? Nice revisionism.
ZRX1200
14 years ago
Yeah DMV.......the founding fathers wanted "detention/internment" camps and socialized medicine and 70% taxes but Bush ruined it.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

lol

I wish I could be as righteous as you n stuff. As if you wouldn't mention it if a Democratic candidate bought ads on a racist web site.

So your position is that the founding fathers were libertarian? Nice revisionism.

FuzzNJ wrote:




If it had been proven wrong it wouldn't be a blip on my radar. However; you KNOW it's a lie and perpetuate it. You and Wheels are the only ones here that make the claim he's a racist.

If our Founding Fathers weren't libertarian what were they? They pulled squirrel rifles off their mantels to take on the mightiest army at that time and won. They knew what tyranny was and lived under it. Their grand experiment has been prostituted with progressives and the entire "interpretations" of the word of Law. No, there's no revising history there. You just don't know, nor do you care to learn the very history that made this nation the greatest in the world.
dpnewell
14 years ago

If our Founding Fathers weren't libertarian what were they?

DrMaddVibe wrote:




According to the liberal blogs Fuzzy reads, the FF where progressives, making him the only true patriot here. We all know that liberal blogs, just like Fuzzy, are never, ever, wrong.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

If it had been proven wrong it wouldn't be a blip on my radar. However; you KNOW it's a lie and perpetuate it. You and Wheels are the only ones here that make the claim he's a racist.

If our Founding Fathers weren't libertarian what were they? They pulled squirrel rifles off their mantels to take on the mightiest army at that time and won. They knew what tyranny was and lived under it. Their grand experiment has been prostituted with progressives and the entire "interpretations" of the word of Law. No, there's no revising history there. You just don't know, nor do you care to learn the very history that made this nation the greatest in the world.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Who proved what wrong? The ad wasn't on stormfront's site?

So again, you think the founding fathers were libertarian?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

According to the liberal blogs Fuzzy reads, the FF where progressives, making him the only true patriot here. We all know that liberal blogs, just like Fuzzy, are never, ever, wrong.

dpnewell wrote:



lmao, and I said that where?

Let's talk about what I actually write, not what you think it is I wanted to write.
borndead1
14 years ago

Yeah, he's the protector of the realm. This is the guy who bought ads on stormfront's, the racist group, site and thinks we should pay for medical bills by bartering. yay him.

FuzzNJ wrote:




Sigh...he never bought ads on Stormfront. Just because a lot of neo nazis support him doesn't make your "guilt by association" claim stick. The KKK endorsed McCain in 2008. Does that make McCain a racist?

Did you also buy into Obama's "guilt by association" with regard to Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright?
chiefburg
14 years ago
I would bet that Ron Paul, with all his faults and quirks, would be three times the POTUS that Obama has been. Personally, I'm more than willing to take a chance with him. I doubt he could be more harmful to this country than Bush and Obama. Obama keeps digging a hole thinking he's going to dig his way out and it's painfully obvious his tactics really aren't the answer to our problems.
yardobeef
14 years ago
So Ron Paul = Obama x 3 ?

That doesn't sound good at all.
dpnewell
14 years ago
Well Fuzzy, how about shedding some light on your view? If us Libertarians are not the ones upholding the values and principles of our Founding Fathers, then in your opinion, which political group does?
DrafterX
14 years ago

Obama keeps digging a hole thinking he's going to dig his way out and it's painfully obvious his tactics really aren't the answer to our problems.

chiefburg wrote:





He just needs a little more time... 😟
borndead1
14 years ago

He just needs a little more time... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




And a few more trillion dollars.
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