rfenst
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14 years ago

But it's good to know that you base your vote on the important stuff.

tailgater wrote:



Whoa Mr. High and Mighty!
Who put you in charge of deciding whether a individual's factors in deciding who to vote for are valid?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

What a troll.

It is absolutely fair for me to criticize a man directly, and to label him a hypocrite, without being one myself.

I never said my beliefs can't be criticized. Nor are the actions defined above even within my own faith or beliefs.

So how, pray tell, is that being a hypocrite?

And while it's on my mind, this board could use a little less of the sophomoric "I know you are, but what am I?" defense mechanism that you've embraced in your post above.
What's next? The "I'm rubber and you're glue" routine?
Or how about just saying "Oh yeah?"

I'd say you must be a hoot at parties, but I'm thinking you're not allowed to hang around with the adults any more.

tailgater wrote:



Sure, you can criticize anyone and anything you want. But when you complain that Rick 'blasts the religious right' while you hypothosize that he's over 'medicated' and complain of hypocricy is preposterous.

What Rick did was not actually hypocritical as I didn't see him complain that you were 'blasting' him and his beliefs while he was 'blasting' yours. You did that and that's what hypocricy is. Being unsympathetic to someone else's personal beliefs after having grown up the way he did is not hypocritical, it maybe lacks empathy, but that's something conservatives have no right complaining about.

'I know you are, but what am I'? I didn't even say anything about me or glue. I think you may be projecting here.

tailgater
14 years ago

Whoa Mr. High and Mighty!
Who put you in charge of deciding whether a individual's factors in deciding who to vote for are valid?

rfenst wrote:




The country is in a financial mess and people are going to place their vote based on whether the candidate agrees with abortion?

I spread my disdain for this approach towards both sides of the coin, as I find it short sighted and in the end detrimental.
As I stated previously, Roe v wade ain't going nowhere.
Choosing a president based on thier view on this matter is akin to choosing the candidate based on his skin color.

Oh, sorry.
Never mind.
rfenst
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14 years ago

The country is in a financial mess and people are going to place their vote based on whether the candidate agrees with abortion?

I spread my disdain for this approach towards both sides of the coin, as I find it short sighted and in the end detrimental.
As I stated previously, Roe v wade ain't going nowhere.
Choosing a president based on thier view on this matter is akin to choosing the candidate based on his skin color.

Oh, sorry.
Never mind.

tailgater wrote:




Do you really believe that whoever is the next President will truly have much, if anything, to do with this country coming out of this recession?
tailgater
14 years ago

Sure, you can criticize anyone and anything you want. But when you complain that Rick 'blasts the religious right' while you hypothosize that he's over 'medicated' and complain of hypocricy is preposterous.

What Rick did was not actually hypocritical as I didn't see him complain that you were 'blasting' him and his beliefs while he was 'blasting' yours. You did that and that's what hypocricy is. Being unsympathetic to someone else's personal beliefs after having grown up the way he did is not hypocritical, it maybe lacks empathy, but that's something conservatives have no right complaining about.

'I know you are, but what am I'? I didn't even say anything about me or glue. I think you may be projecting here.

FuzzNJ wrote:




I wish I could use pictures so you'd understand.
I'll try using small words.
And I'll type real slow.


Rick was being hypocritical because his angst is based on the persons religious and/or faith based actions. Actions which hurt no one, but draw out his ire simply because they are different than his own.
Over the years, Rick has been justified in standing up for the little guy (no pun intended) and has made mention of both his religion and his upbringing to make his point on many occassions.
He has thwarted many a conservative viewpoint towards "other" religions by referencing said upbringing and from speaking first hand.

So when he attacks a person for their own religious beliefs, beliefs that harm no one and shouldn't merit a second look, then yes. He is being hypocritical.

I find the religious right disgusting. Talk about hypocrits!
But yet you somehow think I'm being a hypocrite simply because I call someone out?

You truly have no clue.
About me. About this subject. Nor apparently about the meaning of words used in your replies.

OK, I lied.
I didn't type slowly.
tailgater
14 years ago

Do you really believe that whoever is the next President will truly have much, if anything, to do with this country coming out of this recession?

rfenst wrote:



Yes.
If for no other reason then to rescind the Obamacare fiasco.

I'm not talking about instant gratification, mind you. But 4 more years of Obama will most certainly hurt us all for years to come (assuming that we are all tax paying citizens here).

Your question is a good one. And perhaps I am being a tad too emphatic with my comments regarding abortion, etc.
I think ALL the variables need to be considered before someone votes. But we all too often hear a candidate who becomes defined completely and in total by their standing on abortion or gun control, etc.

The problem is that the topic is always black and white.
Pro life versus pro choice.
2nd ammendment rights versus those who want to limit guns.

There is never the reality slap of a neutral grey area. Be that a compromise or not.

Important topics that deserve debate and consideration include the recession, universal health, secure borders, fair tax codes, etc etc.
Only extreme ideas such as a fence along our border would stimulate the emotion that abortion creates.

And in the end, we've had 40 years and 10 terms since Roe v wade, and not one president has made even a ripple towards changing it. Yet it is somehow a major motivator at the voting booth.
teedubbya
14 years ago
Is Joe Walsh running again?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

I wish I could use pictures so you'd understand.
I'll try using small words.
And I'll type real slow.


Rick was being hypocritical because his angst is based on the persons religious and/or faith based actions. Actions which hurt no one, but draw out his ire simply because they are different than his own.
Over the years, Rick has been justified in standing up for the little guy (no pun intended) and has made mention of both his religion and his upbringing to make his point on many occassions.
He has thwarted many a conservative viewpoint towards "other" religions by referencing said upbringing and from speaking first hand.

So when he attacks a person for their own religious beliefs, beliefs that harm no one and shouldn't merit a second look, then yes. He is being hypocritical.

I find the religious right disgusting. Talk about hypocrits!
But yet you somehow think I'm being a hypocrite simply because I call someone out?

You truly have no clue.
About me. About this subject. Nor apparently about the meaning of words used in your replies.

OK, I lied.
I didn't type slowly.

tailgater wrote:



Your condescending tone notwithstanding, watching you complain about Rick's lack of empathy is like watching Trump complain about Newt's ego.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago
Bloody must have changed his mind 'cause his post dissapeared.
tailgater
14 years ago

Your condescending tone notwithstanding, watching you complain about Rick's lack of empathy is like watching Trump complain about Newt's ego.

FuzzNJ wrote:




Condescending, yes.
That is what happens when you make false accusations and then play dumb.

And you still don't get it.

I never claimed to have any empathy. Rick has.
I am not repulsed by his comments, but rather by the source.

Hence the "hypocrite" label.

Dude, if you need a dictionary I can set you up.
But this is getting ridiculous.
English.
Learn it.

Your welcome.
bloody spaniard
14 years ago

Bloody must have changed his mind 'cause his post dissapeared.

FuzzNJ wrote:




Fuzz, I laughed at your funny post & then wanted to say a word or two about my friend Rick, but thought why bother?
I've got better things to do than get into an argument with keyboard warriors.#-o 🍺
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Condescending, yes.
That is what happens when you make false accusations and then play dumb.

And you still don't get it.

I never claimed to have any empathy. Rick has.
I am not repulsed by his comments, but rather by the source.

Hence the "hypocrite" label.

Dude, if you need a dictionary I can set you up.
But this is getting ridiculous.
English.
Learn it.

Your welcome.

tailgater wrote:



Ok. Let's wrap this up.

You have no empathy, you are intolerant of 'liberals' and frequently call them names.

You believe Rick thinks he has empathy, but since he disagrees with you and frequently calls 'conservatives' names, that's out of bounds and hypocritical.

Yet you don't think that calling a 'liberal' a name while complaining about them calling 'conservatives' bad names is not hypocritical.

Brilliant.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Fuzz, I laughed at your funny post & then wanted to say a word or two about my friend Rick, but thought why bother?
I've got better things to do than get into an argument with keyboard warriors.#-o 🍺

bloody spaniard wrote:



I know, I saw it. Your reason why is what I suspected and I was dissapointed to see you think you need to erase a post because you actually laughed at something I said knowing you would get grief. Gave into the bullies. 😞
tailgater
14 years ago

Ok. Let's wrap this up.

You have no empathy, you are intolerant of 'liberals' and frequently call them names.

You believe Rick thinks he has empathy, but since he disagrees with you and frequently calls 'conservatives' names, that's out of bounds and hypocritical.

Yet you don't think that calling a 'liberal' a name while complaining about them calling 'conservatives' bad names is not hypocritical.

Brilliant.

FuzzNJ wrote:



Nice try, but no cigar.
I'm not calling Rick a hypocrite because he called a "conservative" a name.

It's obvious that if I told you 2 + 2 = 4, you'd wonder what happened to 3.

I'm bored with you now.

over.
bloody spaniard
14 years ago

I know, I saw it. Your reason why is what I suspected and I was dissapointed to see you think you need to erase a post because you actually laughed at something I said knowing you would get grief. Gave into the bullies. :(

FuzzNJ wrote:




LOL!! Good grief- NO, my combative brother. I enjoy your sarcasm immensely.
I just don't have the fire in the belly to debate (via the keyboard) anymore over things I have little or no control to change OR in defense of friends that I feel are misunderstood.

Labels mean little to me these days. I've been lied to & politically used as a water carrier by the best.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Nice try, but no cigar.
I'm not calling Rick a hypocrite because he called a "conservative" a name.

tailgater wrote:



I know I simpled up that sentence too much. You are calling him a hypocrite, the definition of which you obviously don't know, because:

Yet he routinely blasts the religious right and in this instance he is poking his 4 ft high nose into a man's personal grief and core beliefs.

He's a hypocrite.

tailgater wrote:



Huge difference there. He would be a hypocrite if he demanded that his religious beliefs should not be questioned, or 'blasted' while he was doing it himself. Blasting another person's religious beliefs is not hypocritical even if you tout yours, that's a disagreement on philosophy.

Rick was being hypocritical because his angst is based on the persons religious and/or faith based actions. Actions which hurt no one, but draw out his ire simply because they are different than his own.
Over the years, Rick has been justified in standing up for the little guy (no pun intended) and has made mention of both his religion and his upbringing to make his point on many occassions.
He has thwarted many a conservative viewpoint towards "other" religions by referencing said upbringing and from speaking first hand.

So when he attacks a person for their own religious beliefs, beliefs that harm no one and shouldn't merit a second look, then yes. He is being hypocritical.

tailgater wrote:



And your angst is based on what? The other person's beliefs, which hurt no one. I mean if you want to think that an anti-choice stance because of religious principles 'harms no one' then a left of center person's anti-war, pro-worker stances harm no one too.


I never claimed to have any empathy. Rick has.
I am not repulsed by his comments, but rather by the source.

Hence the "hypocrite" label.

tailgater wrote:



Ok, so the source bugs you because. . . . . .he disagrees with you! Not that hard to figure out, but you are talking about disagreements, not hypocrisy, which is: the practice of professing standards, beliefs, etc., contrary to one's real character or actual behaviour, esp the pretence of virtue and piety.

So I guess you aren't being a hypocrite really because you never said you didn't 'blast' people who disagree with you, you only condemn those who do. Sounds like the pretence of virtue to me.
bloody spaniard
14 years ago
LOL Damn, you two are intense! Worse than a married couple. 🍺

What's the prime motivator for never-ending arguments-- caffeine, whites (amphetamines), egos, bad hair days, physical discomfort...?8-[
teedubbya
14 years ago


Labels mean little to me these days. I've been lied to & politically used as a water carrier by the best.

bloody spaniard wrote:



^ F A G
bloody spaniard
14 years ago

^ F A G

teedubbya wrote:




See?
Nobody bother me. ~~~ Jhoon Rhee
teedubbya
14 years ago
tijuana take yo mamma to the gangbang oh yes you do.... its been a long time since she's hadda good screw
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