TMCTLT
14 years ago

You would not? You would let some assh*le you don't know profit off of your dead son? WTF?

FuzzNJ wrote:





I wouldn't do it "At All" .........get it, this should NOt be an opportunity to profit. iMHO
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

TMC see this:

>> Zimmerman's attorney, Craig Sonner, says that Zimmerman acted in self-defense and is not a racist as some have portrayed him.

"I think we need to let the investigation come forward and let all the facts in this case come out," Sonner said on the "Today" show. "I think it's going to tell a different story than the way it's been related and portrayed in the media."

According to a CNN poll released Monday, 73 percent of Americans think police should arrest Zimmerman.

Meanwhile, the difference between the typical teenager Martin's family and supporters say he was and the way he presented himself on social media is the subject of increasing debate.

As Dan Linehan, a blogger at Wagist.com, pointed out, correspondence with Martin on Twitter before he died alludes to an incident with a bus driver. "Yu ain't tell me you swung on a bus driver," Martin's cousin wrote to him on Feb. 21.

The same week, Martin was suspended for 10 days from Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in North Miami-Dade. "He was not suspended for something dealing with violence or anything like that," his father said. "It wasn't a crime he committed, but he was in an unauthorized area [on school property]," declining to offer more details.

But a family spokesman told the Associated Press on Monday that Martin was suspended because marijuana residue was found in his book bag.

More than 25,000 were expected to attend an afternoon rally in Sanford, Fla., on Monday for Martin, including the Rev. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and other civil rights leaders.

"The media is getting the Trayvon Martin story wrong," Michael Brendan Dougherty wrote on BusinessInsider.com, comparing it to the 2006 Duke lacrosse case, in which three members of the lacrosse team were accused of rape, resulting in a media firestorm and public outcry. The accuser's case unraveled, and the charges were eventually dropped.

"Oh how little we have learned," David Shane wrote on PolicyMic.com. The media has rushed to judgment yet again. Now, it's quite possible that Zimmerman is guilty of everything his worst foes accuse him of. There is plenty about this case that troubles me. But that's exactly the point—I don't know. Neither does anyone else, and both the scope and tone of the media coverage ought to reflect that fact."

Stinkdyr wrote:




So his attorney said he was acting in self defense AND wants everyone else not to jump to conclusions? lmao

What if the kid smoked pot, listened to rap, walked like a 'thug', looked like every gang banger you have ever seen in the movies. So what? Hell even IF he was a bad guy, how the f would Zimmerman even know that? It has no bearing on what he was doing at the time of the shooting, none. Zimmerman didn't know him from Adam. You blame a rape victim for the rape if whe was wearing something sexy and went out to a club?

FuzzNJ
14 years ago

I wouldn't do it "At All" .........get it, this should NOt be an opportunity to profit. iMHO

TMCTLT wrote:



You pollyanna or something? Of course some douche would make money off of his name, it's a capitalistic opportunity. This prevents it. If you were in that situation and someone made shirts with your kid and sold them for profit, what would you do? Just let them get away with it? What if the t-shirt said TMCTLT's son deserved to die or something like that?

F that.
wheelrite
14 years ago

So his attorney said he was acting in self defense AND wants everyone else not to jump to conclusions? lmao

What if the kid smoked pot, listened to rap, walked like a 'thug', looked like every gang banger you have ever seen in the movies. So what? Hell even IF he was a bad guy, how the f would Zimmerman even know that? It has no bearing on what he was doing at the time of the shooting, none. Zimmerman didn't know him from Adam. You blame a rape victim for the rape if whe was wearing something sexy and went out to a club?

FuzzNJ wrote:


As much it pains me, I agree with you.#-o
TMCTLT
14 years ago

So his attorney said he was acting in self defense AND wants everyone else not to jump to conclusions? lmao

What if the kid smoked pot, listened to rap, walked like a 'thug', looked like every gang banger you have ever seen in the movies. So what? Hell even IF he was a bad guy, how the f would Zimmerman even know that? It has no bearing on what he was doing at the time of the shooting, none. Zimmerman didn't know him from Adam. You blame a rape victim for the rape if whe was wearing something sexy and went out to a club?

FuzzNJ wrote:





I don't but many people do, how do I know this? My cousin was raped and murdered you ****....and it WAS said that perhaps she brought this upon herself by the way she was dressed and the fact she was at a club.
TMCTLT
14 years ago

You pollyanna or something? Of course some douche would make money off of his name, it's a capitalistic opportunity. This prevents it. If you were in that situation and someone made shirts with your kid and sold them for profit, what would you do? Just let them get away with it? What if the t-shirt said TMCTLT's son deserved to die or something like that?

F that.

FuzzNJ wrote:





One of these days you may actually get "the point" when a person is making one.....but I doubt it. Your such a ******
itsawaldo
14 years ago
I think our esteemed leader fanned the flames by using Martin to pander to his voting bloc when he responded to the medias question. He should have been more generic in his comments, affirmed it is always a tradgedy when any life is taken early and said he has the confidence in the athorities that are looking into the case again.

The entire event could have been avoided had Zimmerman stayed in his car, but he didn't, that in itself is not a crime, it's what happend after that that needs to be back under a microscope.

If the kid was a gangbanger does not matter, Zimmerman did not know that. Was Zimmerman a racist? That has not been proven either.

All these Reverends need to stop playing the race card and look to help their communities when they are in need.
rfenst
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14 years ago

Zimmerman's state of mind at the time is being analyzed and defended, but what about Martin's state of mind? He was more than likely in fear for his safety and possibly his life too."

FuzzNJ wrote:




Zimmerman's state of mind as to whether he was in fear significant enough to shoot Trayvon is only a very minimal part of this legal mess. Unless facts show that Zimmerman was the unreasonable aggressor in the purported physical fight, we will highly likely presume that he was in "fear".

But, there is so much more to Zimmerman's defense than just that. The shooting will be judged, not by Zimmerman's state of mind, but by that of the fictional "reasonable person". That is: Would a reasonable person, given (whatever) the circumstances, have felt that he was in danger significant enough to justify shooting Trayvon? If the answer is "yes", then Zimmerman is not guilty. If the answer is "no", then Zimmerman committed a crime and will be deemed guilty. Sounds rather simple, but it is not.

As to Trayvon's state of mind... it is irrelevant. The only thing about Trayvon that should legally be considered are his actions- no matter why he took them.
HockeyDad
14 years ago
I'm waiting for the police investigation to conclude before releasing my outrage.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

I don't but many people do, how do I know this? My cousin was raped and murdered you ****....and it WAS said that perhaps she brought this upon herself by the way she was dressed and the fact she was at a club.

TMCTLT wrote:




WTF? You are calling me a **** because I mentioned rape and your cousin was raped? Do you think I was insulting you and your family's experience? How would I even know that? Saying that Treyvon looked dangerous and because of that it's understandable that he was killed is just like saying a woman who dresses sexy was looking to be raped.

What's wrong with you? I didn't make this personal.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

One of these days you may actually get "the point" when a person is making one.....but I doubt it. Your such a ******

TMCTLT wrote:



Hugs and kisses. Another name because I disagree with you? You are a child.
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

I think our esteemed leader fanned the flames by using Martin to pander to his voting bloc when he responded to the medias question. He should have been more generic in his comments, affirmed it is always a tradgedy when any life is taken early and said he has the confidence in the athorities that are looking into the case again.

The entire event could have been avoided had Zimmerman stayed in his car, but he didn't, that in itself is not a crime, it's what happend after that that needs to be back under a microscope.

If the kid was a gangbanger does not matter, Zimmerman did not know that. Was Zimmerman a racist? That has not been proven either.

All these Reverends need to stop playing the race card and look to help their communities when they are in need.

itsawaldo wrote:




How could they seek justice for Trayvon without someone saying they are playing the race card?

Who do you expect to seek justice for Trayvon, the police department? They obviously were not. This story was ignored until the black media then Charles Blow of the NYT picked it up weeks later when they discovered it.

wheelrite
14 years ago
isn't there a Honky coalition called the White Tigers ?
FuzzNJ
14 years ago

Zimmerman's state of mind as to whether he was in fear significant enough to shoot Trayvon is only a very minimal part of this legal mess. Unless facts show that Zimmerman was the unreasonable aggressor in the purported physical fight, we will highly likely presume that he was in "fear".

But, there is so much more to Zimmerman's defense than just that. The shooting will be judged, not by Zimmerman's state of mind, but by that of the fictional "reasonable person". That is: Would a reasonable person, given (whatever) the circumstances, have felt that he was in danger significant enough to justify shooting Trayvon? If the answer is "yes", then Zimmerman is not guilty. If the answer is "no", then Zimmerman committed a crime and will be deemed guilty. Sounds rather simple, but it is not.

As to Trayvon's state of mind... it is irrelevant. The only thing about Trayvon that should legally be considered are his actions- no matter why he took them.

rfenst wrote:



So, nothing that lead up to when the first person was touched counts? I think not. I can become fearful of my physical safety by just actions and/or words and seeing a freakin' gun on the guys belt. Zimmerman's fear is not the issue. He was not in any danger until he put himself in the danger by not listening to the 911 dudes advice. He is the one who caused fear by his actions. Treyvon caused fear merely because of his presence. State of mind is ALWAYS considered in these cases. It's why we have different punishments and crimes for the same act, the taking of someone's life. Hell, it is the entire reason for this stand your ground law, fear for one's life.

Dude, please tell me you were just playing devil's advocate here.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Ok, that wasn't a 'fact', I see what you did there. It was an 'even if' scenario and based on a couple witnesses who are saying Treyvon attacked first. So if Martin attacked first, or if Zimmerman actually attacked first, it doesn't matter. Zimmerman started the altercation long before physical contact by following Martin before any altercation. Again, if it were me, I would get away or attack, as would you in that situation.

So my knee jerk reaction without facts accusation is bs.

FuzzNJ wrote:







TOOL!

I'm willing to bet you'd fall into the fetal position sucking your thumbs faster than you'd scream "Kill Whitey" and run!

You're no better than the assbags that are making money harping the same fairy tales you are here Snickerdoodles.
rfenst
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14 years ago

His frackin mother is so broke up that she's spending her time getting his name and a couple phrases "patented" so she can turn a buck on this before someone else does.....#-o

TMCTLT wrote:




Perhaps you are right. But, why not give her the benefit of the doubt and presume, until proven otherwise, that she is merely preventing others from doing that? After all, wrongfully jumping to conclusions is what most people are doing regarding this matter no matter which side they are on, right?
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Perhaps you are right. But, why not give her the benefit of the doubt and presume, until proven otherwise, that she is merely preventing others from doing that? After all, wrongfully jumping to conclusions is what most people are doing regarding this matter no matter which side they are on, right?

rfenst wrote:




Mo' money...mo' money...mo' money!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/new-puy-a-cracker-t-shirts-hits-the-florida-streets/ 


Got my mind on my money and my money on my mind![frypan]
wheelrite
14 years ago

Mo' money...mo' money...mo' money!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/03/new-puy-a-cracker-t-shirts-hits-the-florida-streets/ 


Got my mind on my money and my money on my mind![frypan]

DrMaddVibe wrote:



I want one...

But shouldn't it say Pusssy ass Tortilla chip ?
herfidore
14 years ago
Oh look, more name calling on C-Bid because someone has a different point of view than you. I'm shocked, and appalled. Both shocked and appalled in equal parts.
ZRX1200
14 years ago
Ha!


Well at least a portion of the black folks enjoy getting their racial reparations still. Good for them, really goes to quell racial stereotypes about them as well.
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