IRAQ

There have been very few of our Presidents who have actually changed world history. George Washington was one--he founded this nation and changed the world forever. Woodrow Wilson was another. His creation of the League of Nations and his deliberate sinking of more than half our navy led to more wars. Ronald Reagan dramatically changed the world by changing the nation's policy from one of containing communism to one of confronting it. There were others as well, but not that many. Now we have President George W. Bush who has entered that small club by bringing about perhaps some of the greatest change in the world in decades and perhaps the most change in the Middle East in centuries. The Bush plan to turn the despotic Arab states into democratic nations is bearing fruit. The elections in Iraq must have every despot from Syria to Saudi Arabia quivering in their boots. Regardless of what the New York Times and the Washington Post have to say about George W. Bush today, history will rate him as a President who brought change not only to Washington, DC but to the world. Oh how the European "world leaders" must hate this man for doing what they had neither the desire nor the courage to do.

Hog

Hey, I smoked a really good cigar today...an Indian Tabac ....and the maker used to live in Green Bay!
Considering the other posts....this can not be considered a thread jack.

not the rats.
give her the rats

long live big brother
long live big brother

hey ducati...

I'm going to honduras with rocky patel/indian tabac this march to tour the cigar factories there......

love those IT's

excuse me Hog but did the people that lived in those communist countries have anything to do with the change in the political atmosphere or was it just Ronald Reagan's influence that did it????

must the USA take credit for every good thing that has ever happened in Europe?

and if you really believe we did it by other means than invading a sovereign nation why can't we do it again???

just a thought... you should try one. it won't kill you.

Yo Rick:

How about your replies:

Go piss up a rope

F**k you ( your reply aimed toward me )

And other words of shi er wit.


Are you so senile you forgot your own words?


JonR

Here Jekyl,
http://www.cigarbid.com/auction/forum/forum.cfm?action=list&forumID=9&messageDisplay=0000000032471 

catch up.. read it and learn something....

your hatered is keeping you blind to the facts.....

How bout we set up a herf you and I? lets say Mona's Place (if it's still around?) it's a strip bar across from Ft Cambell this would be about half way for the both of us NO? I'll bring some Choice Cigars, Large Condem, and some Facts.... I think you'll find the surroundings and atmasphere pleasent and we can discuss current events... you can give me your facts on how you percieve them and I'll just stuff all my facts in the large condem and shove them up your a$$, because your anger for this war and the administration has your thoughts so narrowly minded and distorted... you're not allowing yourself to grasp the facts in any other form... don't worry about the bar tab.. I'll pick it up on my way out... and who knows Mona's Place may put you to work with your new act???

You really need to tone down your anger and post like you have some credentials to events in the world.. rather then your same'ol Slamming's and spew!!!!

Now about my previous post and your reply...

excuse me Hog but did the people that lived in those communist countries have anything to do with the change in the political atmosphere or was it just Ronald Reagan's influence that did it????
Yep they sure did... So did the people of Iraq in 1991... and at the time we backed them and once Saddam was removed from Kuwait we left them (Kurds and Shiek's (sp) to fend for themselves instead of finishing a long overdue job) in the meantime during the second Iraq war it caused Mohamar Quadaffi to give up his terrorist intentions and also prior to when Bush declaired a war on terror "OEF" after 911 many other so called terrorists groups around the world raised they're hands and said we quit IE: IRA and others... So yea ruling with an Iron fist is what took place because 12 yrs of bogus sanctions didn't mean squat other then illegal dealings and many more murders!!!!

must the USA take credit for every good thing that has ever happened in Europe?

Well mr. Jekyl.. Name something the USA shouldn't be allowed to take credit for and we can discuss it.. otherwise you answered your own question!!!

and if you really believe we did it by other means than invading a sovereign nation why can't we do it again???

Your calling "Pre" Iraq a sovereign Nation??? and grouping it as such??? You flunked history right?
See above post on sanctions etc.. Corruption was keeping Us and the world from accomplishing the Objective of not invading and freeing the people from a Tyrant....

just a thought... you should try one. it won't kill you.

And this one has been answered in my above response... who's doing the thinking around here???
Thanks God it isn't you nor your ilk!!!!

Hog

I dont pretend to know much of anything. But something I do know, I am proud to be an American!! I have lived abroad and welcomed coming home to the United State of America. With all that said Im having a smoke!!!

JonR

that is precisly what i told jerkl9. use the weapons of the enemy.

time to change ropes, the one you have must be soaked.

and use a cotten rope it is much more absorbant.

i think we were very nioe to each other today. it must be a holiday.

"and use a cotten rope it is much more absorbant."

Rick come on now... tell the truth... you smoked up all your Hemp Ropes!!!!!

Hog

geez Hog i wouldn't let King George know you want to shove something up another man's ass... they might get the wrong idea. do you think of my ass often?

i'd love to get together and smoke a few. you can have your inagauration cigars and watch me some some primo-cigars. you can drink whatever beer is on special at the trailer park and i will drink bourbon. i will spew my "hatred" of King George and you can spew the sewage that ol King George tries to pass off as truth.

after having a great time smoking and drinking though my ass will be as virgin as the day i was born. however i do have a question about your choice of size in condoms.
you do know they stretch don't you? just remember although you may be a ****** you don't need to cover your entire body with the condom to prove it.

Richard Head.

See Jek... Your just here to stir ****...

Hog

I think Jerky is actually a young teenager. I dont think he is even old enough to smoke cigars. He never posts on the cigar threads. He acts like a juvenile.

His hit and run tactics are like Hog said, just to stir up crap. It's real easy to 'pretend' you are a man when you are sitting behind a computer. He wouldnt last 5 minutes in person saying the bull he spews.

Since this boy doesnt know what common sense or reality is, I wont bother with him anymore. It's a waste of time trying to debate with a kid. If all that dislike his assinine posts, just ignore him, he will eventually pick up his marbles and go home.

TrannyMK,

That is exactly why I posted a two part reply to his above post... to bring light to this A$$Clown... he didn't respond once to my retort to his cry's... but jumped right on the meeting up part of the post with vigor in his posting...

Ignoring is exactly what I am going to do from this point on...

Hog