DrafterX
14 years ago

Study finds host of challenges for kids of gay parents
By Dr. Keith Ablow

Published June 12, 2012
FoxNews.com

The "no differences" theory that children of gay parents—married or not—do not substantially differ from the children of married, heterosexual parents has now been called into question. Two studies published on June 10, in the esteemed journal, Social Science Research, come to conclusions that will cause a great deal of controversy, and should bring about further research. Here's a look at the findings:

1) A careful analysis of the research studies that led the American Psychological Association (in 2005) to assert that the children of gay and lesbian parents are in no way disadvantaged, compared to the children of heterosexual parents, has concluded those studies were inadequate. According to Dr. Loren Marks, Associate Professor at Louisiana State University, who authored the analysis: “The available data, which are drawn from small convenience samples, are insufficient to support a strong generalizable claim...such a statement would not be grounded in science.”

2) The New Family Structures Study (NESS), published by Dr. Mark Regnerus, Associate Professor at the University of Texas, compared thousands of young adults (ages 18-39) who were raised in different types of family arrangements.

Those who knew that their mothers had had a lesbian relationship fared significantly worse on measures of educational attainment and household income, reported more depression, used marijuana more, more often reported forced sexual encounters, felt less close to their biological mother, felt less safe and secure in their family of origin, had more often pled guilty to a minor criminal offense and were more likely to be on public assistance.

Those who knew their fathers had had a gay relationship were more likely to have been arrested, to have thought recently about suicide, to feel depressed, to report sexually transmitted diseases and to have experienced forced sex.

Twenty-three percent of young adults who knew their mother to have had a gay relationship reported being forced to have sexual contact with a parent or adult caregiver, while only 2 percent of intact families with a mother and father reported such contact. For female young adults, that figure leapt to 31 percent (while only 3 percent of young women from intact heterosexual families reported this).

In saying that the children of parents who were known to have engaged in homosexual relationships reported these increased rates of suffering, it is important to note that the rates were higher for these children (now young adults) than for children in intact families with two biological parents, children whose parents divorced late in life, children who were raised with a step-parent in the home, children raised by a single parent and children adopted by strangers.

This data—and it is data—does not indicate why these differences were found. And neither paper suggests how to minimize the hurdles that children of gay parents seem to face during adulthood. But the data should not be dismissed. It was generated, after all, by academic leaders at major universities and published by an esteemed journal with no political agenda and an advisory board with representatives from about three dozen universities.

No doubt those with an investment in whether gay marriage is legalized will frame these findings as evidence that we should not be encouraging such unions. Perhaps proponents of gay marriage will argue that more need be done to mainstream such unions, and homosexuality itself, in order to reduce any stigma suffered by children born to parents who have had gay relationships. After all, this study did not specifically address (as a separate group) the children born to gay couples who were married.

What we should avoid at all costs is silencing such research and such discussion because it is seen by some as politically incorrect. Where optimizing the well-being of children is involved, no stone should be left unturned.

It would be important to know, for example, whether children who are born to gay parents seem to run into less (or more) trouble if their parents are married.

It would seem to be important to know whether children of gay parents run into less trouble if they were the products of artificial insemination vs. the product of a prior heterosexual relationship. Where the fallout of certain childrearing circumstances seems to be more depression, suicide, lawlessness, drug use, sexually transmitted disease and economic hardship, we ought not scare off the scientific community from doing what it does—research and reporting of the facts.

In this regard, I should note something important: I hesitated to write about this topic in an opinion piece. I didn’t hesitate because I think the topic frivolous. I didn’t hesitate because I think of Social Science Research as a meaningless journal (because it is anything but that). I didn’t hesitate because funding for the NESS comes partly from conservative groups (because data are data, unless they can be refuted on objective grounds, and this study is painstaking, in many regards). I hesitated because I worried about getting more of the threats and hate mail (by post and e-mail) I receive whenever I even mention the seemingly unspeakable issue of how social forces related to sexual orientation and gender identity might impact well being in children.

Yet, yielding to that worry would mean that being bullied way back when I was a school kid might have left me timid, and I just can’t abide that. When I see a path of enquiry that might yield some bit of truth, I want to try to be the person who takes it, no matter how treacherous. And, so, it is with this commentary, now in your good hands, to take or leave, to debate, to discuss—as Tennyson wrote, “to strive, to seek, to find...”


Film at 11...... 😟
z6joker9
14 years ago
Studies would find a host of challenges for children of straight parents also. So what? I didn't realize challenges were bad.
Buckwheat
14 years ago
A real Yawn of a cut-n-paste on a topic that probably doesn't affect 10% of the population. 🐴
DrafterX
14 years ago
ya... you're prolly right... just a few thousand kids or so living a tough embarrasing life that will lead to jail or the welfare.... screw 'em.. err, I mean let's just ignore them..... 😟
tailgater
14 years ago


If the data showed that the kids of gay parents were somehow superior, would that change anyone's point of view on the subject?

Buckwheat
14 years ago

So what? I didn't realize challenges were bad.

z6joker9 wrote:



Ditto. Everybody has challenges in life. Its part of life. Who wants to go through life without any scars?

When I hear about how tough some kids have it today I just want to vomit. Think about everything European kids went through in WWI & II? So having gay parents is hard; give me a fark en break. [frypan]
teedubbya
DrafterX
14 years ago
so it's ok for a kid to be abused as long as Protective Services doesn't have to worry about not being politically correct...
alright.... what hurts them now will only make them tougher.... hell, let's just do away with the whole Protective Services thing.... kids have no rights anyway... 🤐
matchew
14 years ago
who's being abused? because their parents are different? what if this study was about the effects of being raised
by a parent that was handicapped? Are those kids being abused because a parent is different?
z6joker9
14 years ago
Who is doing the abusing? Anyone that does, take the kids away. Don't paint a whole group with a broad brush.

What if a study showed that a minority "fared significantly worse on measures of educational attainment and household income, reported more depression, used marijuana more, more often reported forced sexual encounters, felt less close to their biological mother, felt less safe and secure in their family of origin, had more often pled guilty to a minor criminal offense and were more likely to be on public assistance?" Should we prevent that minority from having children or getting married?
z6joker9
14 years ago
matchew beat me to the punch.
Buckwheat
14 years ago
I never said anything about it being OK to abuse children. This is also just one news story on one study. And to answer Tailgater; no it wouldn't make a difference. I still maintain that this is a fringe problem in our society. JMHO and if you don't like it I have others.
DrafterX
14 years ago
ok, maybe I have a different view of this because I've seen it in distant faimily thru marrage... two women kept there daughter literally padlocked in her bedroom with boarded up windows... later moved way out in the mountains and kept a huge chain & padlock on the front gate... claimed to be home schooling and stuff... the girl is pretty much insane now (21 yrs old) and will draw a nice little gubment check for the rest of her life... the women have a powerful attorney and want guardianship so they can have the nice little check... the kid is screwed again.. forever...
this may be an extreme case of cruelty (I left out ALOT) but it's very real... they were untouchable because of their status and attorney... it's just good to see someone looking deeper into an area that was off limits it seemed.....
DrafterX
14 years ago
honestly I'd feel beeter to know the kids were superior for having gay-homo parents... the ones that stay out of trouble probably are in some ways.. definatly tougher... what's wrong with taking a closer look...?? 😕
Buckwheat
14 years ago
That is just horrible. I'd say that these two women would still have some pretty serious mental issues gay or straight. Criminal behavior and actions are just that. There are a lot of people in this world both straight and gay that are pretty F’ed up.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

ya... you're prolly right... just a few thousand kids or so living a tough embarrasing life that will lead to jail or the welfare.... screw 'em.. err, I mean let's just ignore them..... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




Georgetown is a real ghetto!
matchew
14 years ago

ok, maybe I have a different view of this because I've seen it in distant faimily thru marrage... two women kept there daughter literally padlocked in her bedroom with boarded up windows... later moved way out in the mountains and kept a huge chain & padlock on the front gate... claimed to be home schooling and stuff... the girl is pretty much insane now (21 yrs old) and will draw a nice little gubment check for the rest of her life... the women have a powerful attorney and want guardianship so they can have the nice little check... the kid is screwed again.. forever...
this may be an extreme case of cruelty (I left out ALOT) but it's very real... they were untouchable because of their status and attorney... it's just good to see someone looking deeper into an area that was off limits it seemed.....

DrafterX wrote:




Drafter, I feel ya. There are way too many freaks on so many levels out there and unfortunately they don't have
a test for some of this crap to keep those freaks from being able to have children.

I know you can relate to this; there are people out there that shouldn't own or have pets also but that doesn't
stop a lot of them from going to the pound and taking a puppy home just tp lock the damn thing up outside and
treat it like crap.
Buckwheat
14 years ago
"You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming **** be a father."
TMCTLT
14 years ago

Drafter, I feel ya. There are way too many freaks on so many levels out there and unfortunately they don't have
a test for some of this crap to keep those freaks from being able to have children.

I know you can relate to this; there are people out there that shouldn't own or have pets also but that doesn't
stop a lot of them from going to the pound and taking a puppy home just tp lock the damn thing up outside and
treat it like crap.

matchew wrote:




Terrible phuckin comparison if you ask me.....kids are NOT pets!! Hell it's laughable to me that more questions are asked of a prospective pet adoptee than of some people considering raising children.
matchew
14 years ago
no, pets are not children but if you mistreat a pet you are a big POS in my book!

also, i was trying to get Drafter to relate...........
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