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tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

13 years ago

#21

My experiences working with unions have been a mixed bag. On the plus side, I've seen some great shops. Not necessarily "better" than non-union, but not any worse either.
On the other hand, 100% of the troubles that I've encountered on a manufacturing floor or at a trade show have been the direct result of union rules and/or thuggery.

So yes, I was a bit "opportunistic" with this report when I posted it. But it is entirely with merit.
The IBEW didn't confirm qualifications. If they had, this is a non-story.
They insisted that all non-union crews agree to assimilate to their union rules. As if this made them somehow more qualified. And it wasn't a request. It was a demand. They could sign on the dotted line, or hit the road.

This is indefensible, considering the situation.

chemyst
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#22

Welcome to Obama's United Socialist States of America.

sd72
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#23

http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/pm_31092/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=7MFBiYqD

You keep blasting people for something that apparently was a misunderstanding by the Alabama power company. Non union crews were working there. IBEW says they did not send them paperwork to affiliate, and Alabama power company cannot produce the paperwork they say they received.

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#24

Damn paperwork ...........

Sometimes when people need help you just say yes.

Gene363
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#25

Looks like we have been mislead:

From a flashlight forum:

Sorry, this is FALSE. New Jersey did NOT turn away non union companies.
Here are statements directly from the Alabama Power utilities, New Jersey local news and CBS news.

http://alabamapowernews.com/private/ogaojGiFnx

A Note About New Jersey
We’ve seen a number of news reports about electric line crews that are being turned away in the state of New Jersey, on the grounds that the crews are non-union.
Rest assured, our Alabama Power crews have not been turned away from anywhere. Our employees are proudly representing us in several states that have been affected, and have received a warm reception everywhere they’ve been.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544237/ala-utilities-our-crews-not …

Decatur Utilities, based in Decatur, Ala., denied the report…To be clear, at no time were our crews “turned away” from the utility in Seaside Heights.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/union_official_denies_non-unio ….

IBEW local leaders in New Jersey have reiterated what has been the long standing record of our union – in times of crisis all help is welcome and we pull together with everyone to meet the needs of the public.

The escape pod: https://cigarbid.freeforums.net

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#26

Thanks for the heads up, Gene.
Hannity's profanity laced version keeps playing over & over on the radio. Wonder what union they represented?

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

13 years ago

#27

sd72 wrote:

First we read that the non union crews were sent away.

Then we're told that they weren't sent away, they were just given an ultimatum to affiliate or leave.

Now we learn that it was all a misunderstanding. By the Alabama power company. Not the union.

Obama should have hired IBEW after that pesky youtube video caused that riot...

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#28

Yeah I would drive that far ON MY OWN ACCORD just as a ruse.........sounds reasonable enough.

[sarcasm]

sd72
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#29

So, after being proven wrong, you guys call for conspiracy outrage?

Do you guys hang out with mel Gibson?

Probably a catholic, democratic, union conspiracy.

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#30

Proven what????

Some guys drove 1020 miles and they got confused and really didn't want to be there......

Yeah got it.

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#31

Ok, now I'm as confused as the Redskins playing in their old timers uniforms today. 🤦

sd72
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#32

It's simple, now that its not the unions doing, it's still their fault.

Accuse in the headlines, retract on page 9.

Business as usual.

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#33

It's simple, now that its not the unions doing, it's still their fault.
Accuse in the headlines, retract on page 9.
Business as usual.

sd72 wrote:

Thanks, sd72. 😕
(glad I don't read much anymore)

er, anyone ever tell you that your handle sounds like a lubricant?

sd72
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#34

Ya, I hear that all the time. Thanks bloody!

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#35

Ya, I hear that all the time. Thanks bloody!

sd72 wrote:

LOL- For what? Not reading any more?
It's MY pleasure, sd. Believe me.😁

I can't make heads or tails out of this latest "controversy".:-k

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#36

It was all the volunteers fault.....

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#37

Who's this "supposed" to help- Romney?

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#38

Sure the fuel was cheap to drive that utility truck 1020 miles.

sd72
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#39

It was a union made electric utility truck. No fuel.

RWhisenand
Enthusiast

13 years ago

#40

So, if professional utility workers belong to the IBEW they are "qualified", but if they choose not to join, the exact same professional workers are "un-qualified". Do you realize how ridiculous that is? It only makes sense to folks brain-washed in "Union-think".

Both my BILs work in the Trade Unions at Temple University. One is a plumber. He carries a union card, so I guess that makes him a "qualified" plumber. News for you. I'm a better plumber then he is, and I wouldn't let him touch a pipe in my home.

My other BIL tried to recruit me for a Union General Maintenance position over there. Read the booklet. I was allowed to paint 4' of trim, but not 4'1". Have to call in the painters for that extra inch. Could replace 2 floor tiles. Three required the flooring guys. Could plunge a toilet, but not snake it. That required a Plumber. Was allowed a 16 oz. claw hammer. I'm a contractor and use a 22 oz. ripping hammer most efficiently, but no, on this job, I would have to use a less efficient 16 oz. claw hammer. Had a 5-1/2" American made battery saw. Rule book stated 3-1/4" battery saw only. So, by Union rules, I'd have to retire my American made saw, and buy one from Japan. Rules on sizes and lengths of screw drivers, files, tape measures, etc. etc. Every possible tool I was permitted to have on the job site was spelled out and specified in detail in the book, and no deviations where permitted. Most union folk see this, and think it's normal. The rest of us see these kinds of rules and requirements, designed to increase the cost of labor, and decrease efficiency as "insanity". Just say'n.

dpnewell wrote:

No, they don't have to be IBEW to be qualified, but verifying that the utility workers had some training, and minimum licensees to conduct work on public power distribution lines is a good idea, it's not about hammer sizes on high voltage lines.

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