HockeyDad
13 years ago
All now claim it is completely even or within the margin of error. I need to get in on this scam. I'm sure good money is being made of this.
tj2001cobra
13 years ago

All now claim it is completely even or within the margin of error. I need to get in on this scam. I'm sure good money is being made of this.

HockeyDad wrote:



No one wants to be wrong. They will be able to go back and say "Well, we told you it was close and could go either way, so we were right!"

DrMaddVibe
13 years ago
This poll brought to you by the Weatherman's Union of America...Partly sunny, Partly cloudy...right ALL the time!🐴
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Two most reliable prognosticators IMO- Rasmussen poll & ****** Morris both predict a Romney victory.

I don't know though... what with all those Ohio ballot machines misfiring Romney votes as Obama's...
ZRX1200
13 years ago
I warned y'all about Lord Debolt....
dpnewell
13 years ago
You have to look at these polls in detail. Many of the ones showing a dead heat, or Obama winning by a point or two, are weighted toward Democrat responders. If you poll 5 - 6% more Democrats then Republicans, and show the race even, what's that tell you?

If ****** Morris is right (and I did say "if"), and this turns out to be a Romney landslide, just wait till you see the spin from the MSM. Reactions from dumbfounded to "the Republicans must of stole the election". May end up with rioting in the streets, and we'll have the MSM, with their biased reporting and unfounded accusations to thank for it.
fiddler898
13 years ago
****** Morris? Rasmussen? Really?
dpnewell
13 years ago

****** Morris? Rasmussen? Really?

fiddler898 wrote:



ABC, NBC, CBS, MSN, CNN? Really?
fiddler898
13 years ago
^ Um, I didn't say that. Why do you think I did?
HockeyDad
13 years ago
What did you say?
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Yes, what did you say? Answer. Speak up.
Do not be afraid.

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bloody spaniard
13 years ago
You're hiding behind that voila, uhm, vitola, I mean violeta, oops, vilola,,,
er, behind the big violin aren't you?

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fiddler898
13 years ago
I simply asked a question. Morris and Rass (with apologies to the Cuban vitola of the same name) are simply skewed sources. You don't need to be a partisan of any stripe to admit this.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

I simply asked a question. Morris and Rass (with apologies to the Cuban vitola of the same name) are simply skewed sources. You don't need to be a partisan of any stripe to admit this.

fiddler898 wrote:




Doesn't matter if you perceive them to be skewed or not, Mr. Viola. They both have a proven record of successful predictions.
dpnewell
13 years ago
Local ABC affiliate just started gloating about a new Wasington POST poll that shows Obama with a 3% lead. Washington Post? Talk about a skewed poll.
fiddler898
13 years ago
It's not perception, friend, and I don't mean to pique or impugn anyone on these boards. It's just numbers. What was Rass's final 2008 poll as compared to the actual results? I think you'll find a bias of several percentage points. And by the way, it's a violin.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

I simply asked a question. Morris and Rass (with apologies to the Cuban vitola of the same name) are simply skewed sources. You don't need to be a partisan of any stripe to admit this.

fiddler898 wrote:





Well if you want an unbiased source, fro $50/month I'll provide a non-partisan poll.

For $100, Wheelrite or JadeRose will provide you with an "Around the World" Pole.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Hope this comes out, Mr. Violin. "Rass" went with Obama over McLame in the 2008 election btw.

Overall Poll Score Grade Accuracy Consistency
Rasmussen Reports 91% A- 92% 86%
Ipsos/McClatchy 89% B+ 92% 79%
CNN/Opinion Research 88% B+ 92% 77%
Fox News 84% B 92% 61%
Pew 83% B- 92% 56%
GWU/Battleground 79% C+ 92% 41%
Diageo/Hotline 77% C+ 77% 79%
NBC News / Wall St. Journal 76% C 77% 75%
Gallup Traditional 73% C- 77% 63%
Marist 67% D+ 62% 82%
ABC News / Wash Post 67% D+ 62% 82%
IBD/TIPP 66% D 77% 34%
Gallup Expanded 66% D 62% 78%
CBS News / NYT 60% D- 62% 56%
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 35% F 31% 48%



Data
The data for this chart come from the Real Clear Politics summary on 12 November 2008. Here is a local mirror of that data, with the final polls summarized at the top. Here is a quick summary of the final spread predicted by the pollsters, ranked from most accurate to least:

Poll Obama McCain Spread (actual=6.5) Off by
Rasmussen Reports 52 46 6 0.5
Pew 52 46 6 0.5
GWU/Battleground 50 44 6 0.5
Ipsos/McClatchy 53 46 7 0.5
CNN/Opinion Research 53 46 7 0.5
Fox News 50 43 7 0.5
Diageo/Hotline 50 45 5 1.5
NBC News / Wall St. Journal 51 43 8 1.5
Gallup Traditional 51 43 8 1.5
IBD/TIPP 52 44 8 1.5
Marist 52 43 9 2.5
ABC News / Wash Post 53 44 9 2.5
Gallup Expanded 52 43 9 2.5
CBS News / NYT 51 42 9 2.5
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby 54 43 11 4.5
fiddler898
13 years ago
OK, many thanks Bloody. But I'll still stick with 538.
rfenst
13 years ago
Hopefully, there will be a clear winner, enough at least where we won't have recount crap like 2000. That was terrible.
25-27 hours from now we will have a very good idea of the outcome. 48-72 hours from now, absent any challenges or a lack of a concession, it will be a done deal. Between now and then ya'll can argue over all the polls you want ad nausea, but the only poll that counts is the big one tomorrow suckers.
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