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DrafterX
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13 years ago

I think you've prolly researched this more than anyone else... what is Obamacare gonna do to the dudes working for big corps..?? 😕

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bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

^^^ (sympathy top)

😟

DrafterX
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13 years ago

🤣

bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

Bastid

I can't get anyone mad at me this morning.😞 😣

8trackdisco
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13 years ago

Employers should start shedding jobs until they get to 49 employees, as there are penalties for having 50 employees or more. More care mandated by the government without applying even the basic concepts of underwriting, giving insurance to everyone is going to start ratcheting up the costs.

Look for your premiums for 2013 to go up on average of 10-20%.

Don't worry; once the next layers of the mandates are in place for 2014, you'll look back wistfully on the 15% increase you had back in '13. Ahhh... the good old days.

bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

8trackdisco wrote:

So when can I expect to be able to drop my infernal BC/BS & pick up some of dat Obamacare??? 2014? I've asked the question & all I get is be calm, jefe loco, "sometime" within 2 years. Oh, and my premiums, have gone up more like 30% per year... for GARBAGE that barely covers anything & is more of a catastrophic hospitalization coverage that excludes vision/dental.

I'd rather save 2/3'rds on premiums and get crappy Soviet/Cuban healthcare and be able to buy my own bedpans/supplements & rent nurses than the current worthless crap with huge deductibles (and exclusions) I currently waste badly needed $$$ on.

YO QUIERO MI TACO CARE!!😮

DrafterX
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13 years ago

I've been hearing stories of smaller companies laying-off half their employees and stuff.. kind of figured they were paranoid or trying to make some sort of statement.... We've got over 40K employees now and I don't expect cutbacks due to Obamacare but somethings prolly gotta give....

I wish they'd come up with another name for it at least.... 😟

frankj1
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13 years ago

DrafterX wrote:

it's called Romneycare in MA...
same thing only different.

bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

DrafterX wrote:

:-k Something doesn't add up- especially if the premiums are going to be cut by two thirds.

Only people I'd be concerned about are those working for insurance companies... but it's hard to feel pity for people who rape you year after year and are then not only unapologetic but arrogant about it. They gleefully look for exclusions even after you've met huge deductibles and then pay medical "suppliers" at their convenience.

I suppose the insurance execs and stock holders are pretty satisfied with the way things are. No interstate competition, nice perks, salaries, fat bonuses... while the doctors get scraps.
Speaking of which, enjoy eating like pigs at the trough while you still can, folks.

watchurai
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13 years ago

#10

I wish they'd come up with another name for it at least.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

O-drama-care?

Cuz that seems to be the REAL side effect...#-o

DrafterX
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13 years ago

#11

this is pretty common it seems.....

The CEO of popular pizza chain Papa John's says his employees may face reduced hours and he expects his business costs to rise because President Obama's re-election most likely insures the president's health care reform law will be implemented in full.

NaplesNews.com reports John Schnatter made the remarks to a small group at Edison State College's Collier County campus the day after the election.

Schnatter, who supported Mitt Romney in the election, said all Americans having health insurance under ObamaCare is a good, but estimates the change will cost Papa John's $5 million to $8 million annually.

Schnatter estimated that these rising costs could adversely affect his workers. Since only full-time employees working 30 hours or more must be covered under the new law, he said he expects franchise owners will be forced to cut employees' hours because they can't afford the costs of health insurance plans.

"That's probably what's going to happen," he said according to NaplesNews.com. "It's common sense. That's what I call lose-lose."

The comments were not Schnatter's first statements on ObamaCare. He made headlines in August for telling shareholders the law may lead to increases in the price of his pizza.

In addition, the Applebee’s family restaurant chain is under public attack, including the threat of boycotts after New York-area franchisee Zane Tankel told Fox Business Network that cost increases related to implementing ObamaCare might result in no expansion or additional hiring. Critics appear to have interpreted Tankel’s comments to mean he will layoff customers as a result of ObamaCare.

Film at 11.... 🤔

DrafterX
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13 years ago

#12

🤔
so if you work less than 30 hours a week do you qualify for food stamps..?? 😕

8trackdisco
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13 years ago

#13

"..Schnatter estimated that these rising costs could adversely affect his workers. Since only full-time employees working 30 hours or more must be covered under the new law, he said he expects franchise owners will be forced to cut employees' hours because they can't afford the costs of health insurance plans..."

Penalize employers for having people work 30 hours a week, and they'll reduce the number of people working 30 hours a week. There you go.

You reward behavior you want repeated.
You penalize behavior you don't.

The government is essentially saying do not hire people full time.

Brilliant!

leftyposthole
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13 years ago

#14

So you folks who work for a living like me think the insurance cos. are the culprits. I am sorry but sometimes intelligant people make the most idiotic statements. 2 years ago I had a total knee replacement. In the hospital 3 days with four mos. of therapy afterwards. The total cost of everything was nearly $75,000.00 almost totally paid by insurance. The surgeon charged $10,000, the hospital charged $ 52,000 for a three day stay. The surgeon makes $600,000 a year and his malpractice insurance costs him over $10,000 a mo. So please stop pissin and moanin cause you have to pay $1000. a mo. for insurance. If your gonna be pissed at someone be pissed at the lowlife lawyers who get their paydays suing the hospitals and Dr. everytime a Dr. or nurse cut someones hangnail too short.

8trackdisco
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13 years ago

#15

leftyposthole wrote:

Paying $1,000 a month for insurance is no big deal? Count your blessings. You've got it better than most.

leftyposthole
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13 years ago

#16

I don't pay that, I'm talking about all the other whinners out there

DrafterX
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13 years ago

#17

is the thousand dollar whinner fine part of Obamacare..?? 😕

bloody spaniard
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13 years ago

#18

I WAS going to respond to this but thought better of it after my first paragraph... damn shame too & waste of my time typing (finger pecking) but it would have been a lose- lose if you know what I mean. Good luck to you, leftyposthole.

sd72
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13 years ago

#19

Join a union. EXEMPT!

DrafterX
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13 years ago

#20

lefty seems to be in a bad mood today.... 😟

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