Brewha
13 years ago


Oh, and if we ask the rich to pay just a little bit more, it’s going to fix the deficit. HAAAA! The crap you libs swallow is a freak’n riot!!!!!!!!! But America has spoken. 52% of voters love to swallow crap.

dpnewell wrote:



78% of statistics are made up on the spot.
dpnewell
13 years ago

This sounds like an excellent idea and probably a great investment. They should know since they work there.

HockeyDad wrote:



No, the union would never buy the plants. They couldn't afford the labor costs. :-"
HockeyDad
13 years ago

No, the union would never buy the plants. They couldn't afford the labor costs. :-"

dpnewell wrote:




well maybe the labor union would take a pay cut......oh I see what you did there. You led me into that trap.
sd72
13 years ago
Yes. ^ Just because I'm union, doesn't mean live or die by it. Ill be non union soon. Right to work is in the Michigan law machine as we speak.

Maybe my point has been missed as well, I'm not a wordsmith as some of you can be.

Common ground, equality, a company wanting their employees to prosper for the good of both. Not make me a billionaire as I watch you starve from business. Not pay me till it bleeds from employees. I think maybe this approach is about the only one that fits what this country is supposed to be about.

Call me naive.
HockeyDad
13 years ago
HockeyDad
13 years ago
You assume that a union is required to achieve common ground, equality, a company wanting their employees to prosper for the good of both.

A lot of companies and employees are doing just fine without unions.
teedubbya
13 years ago
seems to be a lot of twink lovers in here. yall know more about it than me
HockeyDad
13 years ago

seems to be a lot of twink lovers in here. yall know more about it than me

teedubbya wrote:




You spelled twinkie wrong.
teedubbya
13 years ago

You spelled twinkie wrong.

HockeyDad wrote:



no I didn't...


speaking of twinks how are ya HD?
ZRX1200
13 years ago
Heard Rush this morning blaming the union completely for this. I think there is some blame there but the 800lbs silent gorilla in the room is energy cost and a dollar not worth a sheet.

Fuel has driven the cost up for Hostess (raw goods and logistsics) to the point that they were hemmoriging money.

Yeah I was yelling at the guy on t.v. this morning 0 x 18500 is 0! Enjoy that pay!
HockeyDad
13 years ago
Le HockeyDad is doing just fine. I was at a grocery store today and there were no Twinkies. I assume they are pulling them off the shelves due to the risk of the union members poisoning the product.
DrafterX
13 years ago

Le HockeyDad is doing just fine. I was at a grocery store today and there were no Twinkies. I assume they are pulling them off the shelves due to the risk of the union members poisoning the product.

HockeyDad wrote:




😨
HockeyDad
13 years ago

I think there is some blame there but the 800lbs silent gorilla in the room is energy cost and a dollar not worth a sheet.

Fuel has driven the cost up for Hostess (raw goods and logistics) to the point that they were hemorrhaging money.

ZRX1200 wrote:




You will pay the price for energy and like it. The dollar is doing just fine. it is devaluing in line with most other currencies.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Only zingers remain on the supermarket shelves.
What are fat people to do?


I still remember fondly the first tumor Hostess gave me.😞
tailgater
13 years ago

Here we go.....

Can anyone explain the 3.45 million the CEO got paid per year? I don't suppose the board of directors were making $35,000 a year either. Throw in a few Vice Presidents while your at it.

And yes I realize the CEO took a non pay for himself for a couple months to satisfy the unions a while ago.

Sometime I think you guys want everyone with no home, car, and insurance. Then you can say Romney would have done something for them. Closed a mysterious loophole or two.

Forget unions, what happened to "of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, for the PEOPLE. "

Need to change it to, "whatever the corporations want, for whatever the fed can get from their PAC's, screw people. "

Ignorance runs rampant in you're posts, very telling of the posters.

What if the top 10 people at hostess took a 1% pay cut, cut their golden parachutes a touch, and put the company into surplus? Food for thought.

sd72 wrote:



You're right.
I guess those "top 10 people" are the stupid ones.
They're giving up $Millions each year just to make a point.
They'd rather close the joint down then take a measley 1% decrease!!
They're closing the door just to spite the union. They're thowing away hundreds of millions, but man will they ever show that union!

sd is right!!


Or maybe he's not...
DrafterX
13 years ago
I just figured the CEOs were all old and ready to retire anyway...... prolly didn't have any kids to pass the business down too either... 😟
tailgater
13 years ago

It was only five thousand bakers who held out, but 18,500 lost their jobs due to the shutdown. If the news report on tv is accurate. So 5000 employees taking an eight percent cut on $33,000 equals?

$13,200,000.

What's the cost of pay, bonuses, retirement, and perks for the white collar employees?

Why does the guy making $33000 have to carry the costs of everything? Maybe we should all make min wage, that's $16000 a year! Gross. Not net.

If it was a non union company, they would just do it, and it wouldn't make the news. There'd be 5000 more people living at poverty level. Pretty soon we won't be able to buy the crap were importing from china.

After the majority of people get driven into the streets, and the corporations rule, like in the early 1900s, well have another wave of organizing. Just like then. And why? Because those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. And apparently most here are of that sort.

Why is there never common ground? Corporate profits are at an average all time high, but that's not the workers business to worry about. Is it?

sd72 wrote:



If it were a non-union company, they would just do it, and it wouldn't make the news.
And the company would be in business. And ALL the people would be getting paychecks.
You forgot to connect the dots, sd.

Corporate profits are at an average all time high.
Except, of course, the profits at Hostess. Where they closed the doors.

I hate when the damn facts get in the way of union logic.
tailgater
13 years ago

Yes. ^ Just because I'm union, doesn't mean live or die by it. Ill be non union soon. Right to work is in the Michigan law machine as we speak.

Maybe my point has been missed as well, I'm not a wordsmith as some of you can be.

Common ground, equality, a company wanting their employees to prosper for the good of both. Not make me a billionaire as I watch you starve from business. Not pay me till it bleeds from employees. I think maybe this approach is about the only one that fits what this country is supposed to be about.

Call me naive.

sd72 wrote:



What's a wordsmith?
HockeyDad
13 years ago

What's a wordsmith?

tailgater wrote:




They stick letters in fire, heat them up, and then hammer them out into words.
DrafterX
13 years ago
seems like a lot of work..... 😟

are the deaf & dumb..?? 😕
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