Gene363
13 years ago

The Constitution defines treason as giving aid and comfort to

the enemy. Edward Snowden is being called a traitor for

leaking NSA information to the American public.


Does that mean the American public is the enemy?

teedubbya
13 years ago
Some patriot.

Hong Kong (CNN) - U.S. intelligence agents have been hacking computer networks around the world for years, apparently targeting fat data pipes that push immense amounts of data around the Internet, NSA leaker Edward Snowden told the South China Morning Post on Wednesday.

Among some 61,000 reported targets of the National Security Agency, Snowden said, are thousands of computers in China -- which U.S. officials have increasingly criticized as the source of thousands of attacks on U.S. military and commercial networks. China has denied such attacks.

The Morning Post said it had seen documents provided by Snowden but was unable to verify their authenticity. The English-language news agency, which operates in Hong Kong, also said it was unable to independently verify allegations of U.S. hacking of networks in Hong Kong and mainland China since 2009.

Snowden told the paper that some of the targets included the Chinese University of Hong Kong, public officials and students. The documents also "point to hacking activity by the NSA against mainland targets," the newspaper reported.

The claims came just days after U.S. President Barack Obama pressed Chinese President Xi Jinping to address cyberattacks emanating from China that Obama described as "direct theft of United States property."

Snowden's allegations appear to give weight to claims by some Chinese government officials that the country has been a victim of similar hacking efforts coming from the United States.

His claims came as Gen. Keith Alexander, the National Security Agency chief, testified at a U.S. Senate hearing that the country's cyberinfrastructure, including telephones and computer networks, is somewhat vulnerable to attack.

On a scale of one to 10, "our critical infrastructure's preparedness to withstand a destructive cyberattack is about a three, based on my experience," he said.

In the Morning Post interview -- published one week after the British newspaper The Guardian revealed the first leaks attributed to Snowden -- he claimed the agency he once worked for as a contractor typically targets high-bandwidth data lines that connect Internet nodes located around the world.

"We hack network backbones -- like huge Internet routers, basically -- that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one," the newspaper quoted him as saying.
dpnewell
13 years ago


The Constitution defines treason as giving aid and comfort to

the enemy. Edward Snowden is being called a traitor for

leaking NSA information to the American public.


Does that mean the American public is the enemy?

Gene363 wrote:




No, not the entire American public, just 48.93% of us.
DadZilla3
13 years ago

It's largely been forgotten by our entire nation.

The thing I find so f-ing sad and hilarious about the entire thing, is that it's played out almost as a mockery of the same sh$t you'll see in literature.

It's like no one has ever read a book.

victor809 wrote:



We didn't forget so much as insist on clinging to the cultural paradigm that 'it can't happen here'.

Most Americans refuse to believe that they would ever have anything to fear from their own government.
HockeyDad
13 years ago


The Constitution defines treason as giving aid and comfort to

the enemy. Edward Snowden is being called a traitor for

leaking NSA information to the American public.


Does that mean the American public is the enemy?

Gene363 wrote:




Yes
rfenst
13 years ago

The ACLU has already filed suit over this matter. It simply happened to be on the right side of this set of issues- for the very first time ever- since its inception.


[sarcasm]











http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/aclu-files-lawsuit-challenging-nsas-patriot-act-phone 
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Sounds as though this "patriot" also has an agenda against USA interests by revealing our cyber strategies against despotic regimes. Thanks, TW.

Having said that, it appears that we're back to square one. At what point do the citizens' rights of privacy trump our country's security? We've traded rights to get that "security". This Snowden snitch incident has nothing to do with it. The time for real outrage and action was decades ago at the ballot box. That ship has long sailed.
DrafterX
13 years ago
I thought we were blaming the Nips..... 😟
HockeyDad
13 years ago

Sounds as though this "patriot" also has an agenda against USA interests by revealing our cyber strategies against despotic regimes. Thanks, TW.

Having said that, it appears that we're back to square one. At what point do the citizens' rights of privacy trump our country's security? We've traded rights to get that "security". This Snowden snitch incident has nothing to do with it. The time for real outrage and action was decades ago at the ballot box. That ship has long sailed.

bloody spaniard wrote:




All these domestic spying revelations surely won't help the push for gun control and banning guns. I still have faith that Americans will trade even more rights for "security".
teedubbya
13 years ago

All these domestic spying revelations surely won't help the push for gun control and banning guns. I still have faith that Americans will trade even more rights for "security".

HockeyDad wrote:



I heard Boston is the test market
HockeyDad
13 years ago

I heard Boston is the test market

teedubbya wrote:





...and it passed with flying colours!
tailgater
13 years ago

No, not the entire American public, just 48.93% of us.

dpnewell wrote:



Romney rounded down to 47%...
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
Unlike Obama's unconvincing, rehearsed fakery, I could sense Romney's genuine affection for his unwashed masses.
dpnewell
13 years ago

Romney rounded down to 47%...

tailgater wrote:



Yes, but some of us voted for Ron Paul and others. 48.93% voted for someone other then dear Leader.
teedubbya
13 years ago
I'm just afraid cornwallace will run again since he really was only elected once.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

I'm just afraid cornwallace will run again since he really was only elected once.

teedubbya wrote:



Master Dubya has decreed & given permission that his heir Jeb be elected.
Unfortunately for him, the electorate is hungering for yet another novelty candidate to elect- a slick woman with cankles.
DrafterX
13 years ago
are cankles like scrupples..?? 😕
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

are cankles like scrupples..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:


:-k Hillary's cankles overshadowed her scruples.

cankles = (too much) scrapple?
DrafterX
13 years ago
I heard they eat scapple like sugar pops over in Arkansas..... 😟
HockeyDad
13 years ago

I'm just afraid cornwallace will run again since he really was only elected once.

teedubbya wrote:




Correction: Elected four times.
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