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rfenst
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#201

Master Dubya has decreed & given permission that his heir Jeb be elected.
Unfortunately for him, the electorate is hungering for yet another novelty candidate to elect- a slick woman with cankles.

bloody spaniard wrote:

Jeb would win and he is a far better choice than Romney was in term of ability wand experience. My problem with him is that he is a very strong so social conservative. Jeb v Hillary would be an amazing race!!!

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#202

rfenst wrote:

Funny because I think of him as a wishy washy moderate like his brother and father on immigration, taxing big business, foreign entanglements, green power, & (somewhat) pro-life etc.. Probably takes after dad in the brains and shrewdness department though. Cornhole, er Cornwallace was a loser that I initially supported with time & $$$ and expected to blossom into a more Reaganesque politician. Alas, he fell in love with the Saudi King and the rest is history. The beginning of the end of this country. Hillary & her Clinton machine will put the final touches on our epitaph after she wins.

Edited by user 13 years ago | Reason: Not specified

bobsnook
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#203

confused

Taps86
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#204

.........
France Calls For 2-Week Delay in US-EU Trade Talks

Government spokeswoman Najat Vallaud-Belkacem told reporters Wednesday "it seems wise to us to suspend them temporarily, for a period of 15 days." She says France will first "discuss with our European partners to take a joint decision."

She said mutual trust is needed before launching talks on such a huge trade deal, expected to provide a boost to economies on both sides of the Atlantic.

http://www.wltx.com/news/national/article/241284/142/France-Calls-For-2-Week-Delay-in-US-EU-Trade-Talks

QMPASH
Aficionado

13 years ago

#205

A similar act of heroism was done in the 19th Century by Emile Zola, when he defended Captain Dreyfuss against the French Military. He too, was found "guilty" of Defaming the French military and had to flee the country to avoid a jail term. It was the military's claim that Zola "was endangering the country" with his accusations. Sound familiar? In the end, Emile Zola was found to be right, Dreyfuss was freen from Devils Island and returned to the military and several high-ranking officers either resigned or committed suicide.

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#206

^ fascinating stuff

I'm torn. Is it possible to betray your government and still be a hero to the American people?
Is our government that bogus?

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#207

^ fascinating stuff

I'm torn. Is it possible to betray your government and still be a hero to the American people?
Is our government that bogus?

bloody spaniard wrote:

Benedict Arnold was misunderstood!

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#208

Benedict Arnold was misunderstood!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

:-k 🤔
then what were the British doing..?? 😕

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#209

the rosenbergs were innocent!

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#210

Benedict Arnold was misunderstood!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

So in a similar vein, you're saying Snowden is a traitor as well, working against a "good" government?

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#211

the nazis were evil. a german during wwII that gave the USA german secrets was still a traitor.

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#212

i pity the foo

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#213

So in a similar vein, you're saying Snowden is a traitor as well, working against a "good" government?

bloody spaniard wrote:

Nope.

I think if Snowden's intentions were pure in that he wanted to bring awareness to a government that's snooping on what you're doing...you don't need to fly off to a Chinese controlled island or hang out in a Russian airport terminal while despot 3rd World crapholes bid on your residency. There's a right way to whistleblow in this nation and be defended for doing it. He didn't do it and from his own admission he sought the job just so he could gather intel and expose the government. He's not a traitor...he's a spy!

If you all really thought the government wasn't doing this DECADES ago then you're fooling only yourselves!

Now, what should be the rallying cry everyone should be yelling is why our government outsourced Top Secret access to 3rd party vendors. Why weren't they doing this all "in-house"?

Edited by user 13 years ago | Reason: Not specified

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#214

Government workers are way too lazy for this kind of spying work. All they would do is spy on their neighbors and stuff. With the cost of their massive salary and benefit packages, 3rd party vendors are cheaper and more efficient.

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#215

HockeyDad wrote:

this.

although if you could somehow convince them there is a union violation they seem to get more energetic.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#216

HockeyDad wrote:

Sure you want to keep that?

Snowden WAS a 3rd party vendor!

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#217

...and a HS dropout to boot but I'm still not sure how I feel about what he did.
He eventually got his GED before they gave him access to secrets btw.=d>

Spying on Americans = bad (unless they are America- hating infiltrators)
Spying on China & rest of world = good (or at the very least standard operating procedure expected by everyone)

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#218

I heard they only spied on muslim americans

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#219

they can't spy if they don't have a haystack/everybodies stuff.... 🤐

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#220

they can't spy if they don't have a haystack/everybodies stuff.... 🤐

DrafterX wrote:

they only have muslim stuff

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