So California went from deficit to surplus in a relatively short time due to spending cuts only? Raising taxes on the wealthy and on corporations didn't help?
Are you also part of the crowd that doesn't believe in a minimum wage? I remember paying my employees a livable wage well above the minimum wage and it didn't hurt me. Sometimes you have to unclench your fists and let a few dollars escape your grasp for other than your own trinkets.

bloody spaniard wrote:

California got its "surplus" by underfunding the K-12 teachers pension by a few billion. The state and various govermental agencies are sitting on in the area of one trillion in debt and unfunded pensions and the tax structure is heavily dependent on taxing the wealthy.
The Great California Exodus is still ongoing.
A minimum wage is fine. I minimum wage of $15 is fine. I just recognize that it comes at a cost.

When you paid your employees a livable wage well above the minimum wage and it didn't hurt you, it that because you passed it on through price increases to some other sucker or you took a pay cut that you could afford? How white is that horse you're riding?!

The desire to punish the wealthy or to achieve some sort of payback from them is unhealthy.

HockeyDad wrote:

Before you pay a salary you assess the bottom line. The "sacrifice" is mutual. One has to determine worth of employee as it applies to earning revenues. A good employee will be worth their salary and allow one to earn more than enough to sustain their salary. If not, then they get less or are laid off. One doesn't have to pass on "higher prices" to unsuspecting "suckers". In addition to one's own moral compass, the open market takes care of that. Unfortunately the latter doesn't exist as much anymore. Thus, folks are getting laid off in droves. My contractors (not employees) make less than half of what they used to make a decade ago. The small business community is going backwards.

bloody spaniard wrote:

My contractors (not employees) make less than half of what they used to make a decade ago. The small business community is going backwards.

bloody spaniard wrote:

Now you're moving the playing fields a bit and now it sounds not quite so noble and more just like a businessman.
You made it sound like they were worth minimum wage and you were paying them more than that out of greatness. If you assessed the bottom line (costs and prices) and the prevailing wage for their position was $50K and you paid them $50K, you don't get no white horse status!
If they were worth minimum wage and you paid them $50K, then I would be impressed.

My moral compass demands that you double the wages of all your employees and contractors immediately.

HockeyDad wrote:

^ Me too! Too late now.



LOL! You think I'm going to hire deadbeats like Drafter who post all day just cause he's handsome and knows clever parlor tricks?

bloody spaniard wrote:

poor deadbeat Drafter... 😞

DrafterX wrote:

change may be coming soon... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

finally getting the operation huh? Growing the teets just wasn't fulfilling?

teedubbya wrote:

that will depend on if Obamacare will cover it... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

My son is active military and claims the PX is more expensive than anywhere else especially for electronics etc. That seems weird to me. Is that true? Sorry just reread you are a contractor. Nevermind.

teedubbya wrote:

But think of the children!!

bs_kwaj wrote: