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rfenst wrote:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/05/09/romneycare-more-er-crowding-longer-doctor-wait-times/

I'm sure the writer was just trying to bash Romney or somethin tho... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

how much does no pain cost..?? most people would pay almost anything if it was bad enough... do you wait 2 weeks or walk into the ER..?? How bad can a sinus infection get in 2 weeks..?? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:

how much does no pain cost..?? most people would pay almost anything if it was bad enough... do you wait 2 weeks or walk into the ER..?? How bad can a sinus infection get in 2 weeks..?? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:

I don't see why an ER visit would be necessary then. that's what Urgent Care clinics are for. Every time I had something that wasn't going to go away on it's own (broken bones, haematoma that needs draining, that sort of thing) I would go to an urgent care facility which accepted my plan. Walk in, get fixed up, walk out. Maybe I'd tell my primary care dr about it at a later date.

victor809 wrote:

Is this just for two people?
I mean, I just today started an individual plan (not Obamacare - free market) and am going to pay about 6k annually for a reasonably good co-pay plan. Maybe you should shop around... obamacare doesn't mean you have to buy their plan, any plan will keep you from having to pay the penalty.

victor809 wrote:

Any systems that depends on the youngest and poorest people to sign-up for policies they couldn't afford before the law was passed, is doomed to fail.

So we are FORCED to depend on a bunch of 20yr olds just out of high-school or entering/graduating college to sign-up in order for the costs to go down? LMFAO!!! This is the same group of people demanding $15hr for minimum wage while working an unskilled labor job at a burger joint.

Good luck with that…

cacman wrote:

But if we don't pay won't the guys wearing Jack's boots come kick in our doors..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

What would work is single payer Medicare for all, cradle to grave.

HockeyDad wrote:

How? At what cost per person and how would those funds be raised?

Bur wrote:

That seems like a stupid assumption.

If people didn't have insurance, but had an emergency, they went to the emergency room.
If people did have insurance, but had an emergency, they went to the emergency room.
Some subset of people who didn't have insurance, but had a problem they needed looking at, went to the emergency room.

Now, if everyone has insurance, seems only the first 2 groups would go to the emergency room.
The third group would schedule with their primary care physician, as normal.

Primary care doctors, and emergency rooms are two different groups. There may not be enough primary care doctors, but there shouldn't be a burden on emergency rooms.

I don't like obamacare, but make better arguments.

victor809 wrote: