You know, the people who supported Obamacare poo-pooed it when they predicted premiums would go up.

They dismissed it when critics said people would be dropped from their healthcare plans.

They mocked them when they said that employers would move a bunch of full-time employees to part-time to avoid the costs of Obamacare.

They mocked Palin for mentioning Death Panels (Paul Krugman's very recent quote was that this country needs "sales taxes and Death Panels").

And they belittled people who said rates would skyrocket.

All of these predictions came true.






Anyone want to bet on the prediction that it will bankrupt the nation...?

jpotts wrote:

Obamacare will destroy this country, just like national health care has destroyed all of the other countries that have tried it. It is why Rome fell and it is what killed the dinosaurs.

Btw, we mocked Palin for an unending number of stupid things she said. And the hits just keep coming and coming . . .

Brewha wrote:

. . . and your point is?

Abrignac wrote:

Obamacare will destroy this country, just like national health care has destroyed all of the other countries that have tried it. It is why Rome fell and it is what killed the dinosaurs.

Btw, we mocked Palin for an unending number of stupid things she said. And the hits just keep coming and coming . . .

Brewha wrote:

Granted that sarcasm can be difficult to follow. The points are something like this;
My bullsh1t detector is going off from the "facts" posted.
The conclusions suggested from the "facts" are ridiculous (and thus the ridicule).

Oh, and Sarah Palin says some stupid ****.

Brewha wrote:

Granted that sarcasm can be difficult to follow. The points are something like this;
My bullsh1t detector is going off from the "facts" posted.
The conclusions suggested from the "facts" are ridiculous (and thus the ridicule).

Oh, and Sarah Palin says some stupid ****.

Brewha wrote:

Great, go live in one of those other countries. I recommend Greece or Italy...or Spain...France...and so on.


Canada's greatest healthcare virtue is that their southern border butts right up to the US, so they can go across the border to actually get service.

You are a fool who is not even smart enough to know how frickin' foolish you really, truly are.

jpotts wrote:

Have I posted erroneous information? Care to correct me?

Abrignac wrote:

Yeah, another left-winger when their worldview is rocked by actual facts, denies that the facts are relevant, and mocks the right-wingers for being all doom-and-gloom. You are a true idiot.

I'll never forget the minute Obamacare passed - the rates on my insurance jumped 30%. Prior to that, people were bleeding out their eyeballs about insurance rates going up 10%. Once they jumped 30%? Silence.

None of the other nations you cite (which you haven't cited, I might add) do not have the massive debt this nation does. I'd also point out their GDP is NOWHERE NEAR that of this nation. Why?

Because we generally don't subsidize people. That's basically it.

The more we subsidize people with things like national healthcare, and all of these social services - just like now - our GDP will start dropping. Without a huge GDP there to service that $17 trillion debt, you're looking right smack dab into default. And if you notice, those healthcare systems run in those other countries? Among the largest outflows of cash aside from all of the other living subsidies they offer.





And honestly, by comparison, Palin couldn't hold a candle to you when it comes to saying stupid sh*t.

jpotts wrote:

Brewha thinks that somehow this will mange to stick it to the 1%

HockeyDad wrote:

No, I don't.

Yet those that cry about welfare breeding also cry about forced healthcare insurance.
Typical conservative republicans.

Brewha wrote:

The people who have to pay for welfare breeding are the same people that will have to pay for forced healthcare so it would make sense.

Those people are the middle class. (not conservative republicans.)

Now had you said that those that cry about welfare breeding also cry about abortion, that would be a better complaint. The people who have to pay for welfare breeding should be in favor of free (and required) abortions for the poor.

HockeyDad wrote:

No, I don't.

Yet those that cry about welfare breeding also cry about forced healthcare insurance.
Typical conservative republicans.

Brewha wrote: