victor809
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:10:52 PM
Somewhat related to other threads running around....

Why do people think that there is a limited number of poorly socialized individuals on the internet? Any time someone shows up who you don't get along with you automatically assume that it must be someone you didn't get along with before, only under a different name....

The internet is a big place... there are more trolls than you'd be able to argue with in your lifetime, and some are here (I don't necessarily consider scompay a troll... he may not get along with some here, but there are others who consistently exhibit more "troll-like" behavior). Hell, they don't even need to be trolls, there are a lot of opinionated people on this forum, and they will argue with each other.

Just because you didn't like or agree with someone 3 years ago, doesn't mean the person you don't like or agree with today is the same person.

Hell, with so many people out there on the internet, the chances of someone new showing up who you don't like are probably higher than the chances of someone who left returning because they "missed you".

So why do we assume they must be the same people? I think it's an inability to grasp the world in its vastness. A human being has a lot of trouble understanding truly large numbers, so it's hard sometimes to realize that those same large numbers have a huge effect on the vast variety of people you are able to interact with on the internet (where space is removed from the equation). ... almost a teenage self-absorption where they are unable to grasp a world outside of what they already know.

The other possibility is that the people thinking this have some unresolved guilt over driving posters away, and they want to try to make themselves feel better by convincing themselves that the poster must have returned... I dunno....

Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is it's tiring to keep seeing the "he must be XXX! because I disliked both of them!" posts... maybe some people actually do return, but your odds are pretty high that a new person is actually a new person, even if you disagree with them (in some of your cases, especially if you disagree with them).

wheelrite
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:12:20 PM

Somewhat related to other threads running around....

Why do people think that there is a limited number of poorly socialized individuals on the internet? Any time someone shows up who you don't get along with you automatically assume that it must be someone you didn't get along with before, only under a different name....

The internet is a big place... there are more trolls than you'd be able to argue with in your lifetime, and some are here (I don't necessarily consider scompay a troll... he may not get along with some here, but there are others who consistently exhibit more "troll-like" behavior). Hell, they don't even need to be trolls, there are a lot of opinionated people on this forum, and they will argue with each other.

Just because you didn't like or agree with someone 3 years ago, doesn't mean the person you don't like or agree with today is the same person.

Hell, with so many people out there on the internet, the chances of someone new showing up who you don't like are probably higher than the chances of someone who left returning because they "missed you".

So why do we assume they must be the same people? I think it's an inability to grasp the world in its vastness. A human being has a lot of trouble understanding truly large numbers, so it's hard sometimes to realize that those same large numbers have a huge effect on the vast variety of people you are able to interact with on the internet (where space is removed from the equation). ... almost a teenage self-absorption where they are unable to grasp a world outside of what they already know.

The other possibility is that the people thinking this have some unresolved guilt over driving posters away, and they want to try to make themselves feel better by convincing themselves that the poster must have returned... I dunno....

Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is it's tiring to keep seeing the "he must be XXX! because I disliked both of them!" posts... maybe some people actually do return, but your odds are pretty high that a new person is actually a new person, even if you disagree with them (in some of your cases, especially if you disagree with them).

victor809 wrote:

WE ALL KNOW IT'S YOU VIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wheel,,8-[

victor809
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:16:52 PM

WE ALL KNOW IT'S YOU VIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wheel,,8-[

wheelrite wrote:

Hehehe... I am scompay848

Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:17:18 PM

WE ALL KNOW IT'S YOU VIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wheel,,8-[

wheelrite wrote:

I'm pretty sure the login would be "scompay808" if that were the case.

victor809
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:18:45 PM

I'm pretty sure the login would be "scompay808" if that were the case.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:

Some day I'll have to dig through old emails and threads to see what number I was up to when the system changed over.

808 was original...

I think I was up to 840something... maybe higher.

It's hard to figure out tho because they all got reverted back to 808.

scompay
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:24:45 PM
Its how group-mentalities and gene pools remain stagnant.
Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:25:39 PM

Some day I'll have to dig through old emails and threads to see what number I was up to when the system changed over.

808 was original...

I think I was up to 840something... maybe higher.

It's hard to figure out tho because they all got reverted back to 808.

victor809 wrote:

Might be able to narrow it down a bit more by searching for some of the old style post quotings.

Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:27:56 PM
BTW, I recall Trish posting this after the Whistlebritches vs Scompay heavyweight title bout a few weeks ago:

No one involved in this latest debacle was a previous customer who was banned.

TrishS@CigarBid wrote:

http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/m/3828596/Here-We-Go-Again-#post3828596 

Kind of rules out Adroomi and JimmyCT.

Personally, I kind of miss adroomi's posts.

victor809
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:35:27 PM

BTW, I recall Trish posting this after the Whistlebritches vs Scompay heavyweight title bout a few weeks ago:

http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/m/3828596/Here-We-Go-Again-#post3828596 

Kind of rules out Adroomi and JimmyCT.

Personally, I kind of miss adroomi's posts.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:

Thank you TG, I thought I remembered reading that.

victor809
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:36:06 PM

Might be able to narrow it down a bit more by searching for some of the old style post quotings.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:

Last I could find is a reference to victor84X by diver....

DrafterX
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:36:42 PM
How would she know if you used different info..?? 🤔
Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:37:34 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure I recall any victor85x's. I think you did get pretty high into the 84x's though.
Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:38:24 PM

How would she know if you used different info..?? 🤔

DrafterX wrote:

IT Ninjas.

DrafterX
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:40:14 PM
even from a different computer and new IP.>?? 😕
Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:41:37 PM
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of posters? The Sven knows!
victor809
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:45:17 PM
I'd bet that a clean IP/computer/cc# could trick the IT ninjas, but you have to remember that scompay has had an account since 2006ish... It's improbable (and a lot of work) if we had a poster who has managed to keep their logons from two separate accounts on separate IP addresses over all that time.
Thunder.Gerbil
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:49:49 PM
In all seriousness, yeah, if you use all new information and IP, then they might not catch it.

I find it amusing that almost every time someone shows up who disagrees with the groupthink here, they are near instantly branded as being either adroomi, jimmyct, fuzz or jbu by the cbid brain trust.

victor809
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:53:14 PM

In all seriousness, yeah, if you use all new information and IP, then they might not catch it.

I find it amusing that almost every time someone shows up who disagrees with the groupthink here, they are near instantly branded as being either adroomi, jimmyct, fuzz or jbu by the cbid brain trust.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:

But if you can't trust the cbid brain trust.... who can we trust?

DrafterX
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:53:49 PM
I guess I just never pay attention to anyone enough to make the connection.... 😟
scompay
Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:54:55 PM
Dont you think its a little odd, perhaps even unhealthy, to have such a need to know someone. You guys are going to make the real attention junkies on this site very angry at me.

The only person I know here is the butcher of Barcelona.

I suppose I dont understand because I am not even curious to know if any of you are even of this planet. I would like to meet Victor, because he lives in a city i like quite a lot.

But I have no need for this lovely attention. If I did, i would be posting pictures of what i had or some other crap to do with ego.

I feel like the Pied Piper, only its getting embarrassing to have rats follow me into all the bars. LOL.