Brewha
10 years ago

Brewha, so your good with lying, scumbag, elitist?

Speyside wrote:


I think I made it clear that I would not vote for Trump.
mikey1597
10 years ago

You're just trying to hurt my feeling, arn't you Mikey....

Brewha wrote:




nope, my opinion
Brewha
10 years ago

nope, my opinion

mikey1597 wrote:


But I remember when we had beers in Dallas, and you told me of you respect for him - not just as a president or a Democrate, but as a man.
A strong, tall, muscular black man......



... Or maybe Drafter said that ....
TMCTLT
10 years ago

It was not eloquence alone. Some us us also understood both the words and the ideas.

But, any practical measure - he ase been the best president in our time.
Don't you think?

Brewha wrote:






It'a a shame you have to consistently insult others intelligence in order to defend your own biases...

Again....you couldn't have possibly said that with a straight face....
mikey1597
10 years ago

But I remember when we had beers in Dallas, and you told me of you respect for him - not just as a president or a Democrate, but as a man.
A strong, tall, muscular black man......



... Or maybe Drafter said that ....

Brewha wrote:




Ha Ha Ha, what kind of drugs were you on that night?

Next herf I'll remind you what I said, they wont let me post it here on the boards.
Brewha
10 years ago

Ha Ha Ha, what kind of drugs were you on that night?

Next herf I'll remind you what I said, they wont let me post it here on the boards.

mikey1597 wrote:


Steroid if I recall - I was fighting off the last of a chest infection......
Ah - good times.

Don't worry about Drafter - I could never shake his love for Obama.
Not that he has a lot of it....

Brewha
10 years ago

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It'a a shame you have to consistently insult others intelligence in order to defend your own biases...

Again....you couldn't have possibly said that with a straight face....

TMCTLT wrote:


Now if you would bother to look, I did not insult Mikey - who disagreed with my "biases". So much for the consistency theory.

I'll have you know I take great pride giving a few hopefully well crafted insults - playful and not. But when they are only dispensed when earned - I mean that's only good manners. Or, manners of some kind anyway.

I did in fact have a smirk on my face when I wrote it. Not because I didn't believe it, but rather the audience I wrote in in front of. Why, you would not believe how polarized and hateful some people can be on this forum.....

Would you?
DrMaddVibe
10 years ago

To be honest Dr. M. The only thing I actually agree with in your post is that you will seriously miss Obama.

The rest of it - no so much.....

But I will call you out on one thing:
"Carpetbagger"?

Wow. - you can really cross the line.....

Brewha wrote:




Full Definition of carpetbagger
1
: a Northerner in the South after the American Civil War usually seeking private gain under the reconstruction governments
2
: outsider; especially : a nonresident or new resident who seeks private gain from an area often by meddling in its business or politics
victor809
10 years ago

The important part of the story is NOT "american dead". It's that the CIA were selling guns and holding hostages at an annex building. They attacked the place for over 8 hours. They smoked out a US ambassador of his safe room and killed him.

Then again, you tend to believe her lies.

I really thought you were smarter than that. Thanks for clearing that up. Your priorities are wrapped up in defending lies. Good luck with that, but then again...you're used to it. You're a useful idiot to a power elite that wipe their feet on your back.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/why-hillary-clinton-keeps-lying/493841/ 

DrMaddVibe wrote:



You conflate "believing" or "defending" lies with being interested in evidence over predisposed dislike for her.

If your biggest concern is whether a dead american's family was told they were killed by a riot or a premeditated attack within the first 72 hours (when we know they were eventually given the accurate information), then perhaps she's done a great job.

I mean seriously... the way the republicans talk she's the devil incarnate. And the best she's managed to do is that? I think you should expect a bit more in your evil incarnate.

I didn't even want the dems to nominate her... but I'm pretty unimpressed with the scandal everyone wants to try to bring her down on.
DrMaddVibe
10 years ago

You conflate "believing" or "defending" lies with being interested in evidence over predisposed dislike for her.

If your biggest concern is whether a dead american's family was told they were killed by a riot or a premeditated attack within the first 72 hours (when we know they were eventually given the accurate information), then perhaps she's done a great job.

I mean seriously... the way the republicans talk she's the devil incarnate. And the best she's managed to do is that? I think you should expect a bit more in your evil incarnate.

I didn't even want the dems to nominate her... but I'm pretty unimpressed with the scandal everyone wants to try to bring her down on.

victor809 wrote:




Yet she quotes her time as Secretary of State as being some crowning achievement. I don't know who's worse in that job...her or JOhnKErry!


And now this...

tailgater
10 years ago

I tend to agree with her here.

The important part of the story is "american dead". the important part isn't "because of riot due to video" or "because of planned attack". Either way americans are dead. If you think the important part is trying to parse whether a politician correctly identified the cause within the first 72 hours (there is plenty of time for analysis later)... then I'd say you've got your priorities wrong. But that's just me.

victor809 wrote:



So if your family was killed yesterday, you wouldn't worry about WHY they were killed.

tailgater
10 years ago

Again. You are presupposing that she lied, without any clear information. While I understand you don't like her, you can't possibly think that you are looking at this in an unbiased manner when the words you use are assuming she was wrong before you even think about the problem.

victor809 wrote:



So Google is your friend, except when you're trying to make a point in a losing effort?

10 second research:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/07/31/have-we-forgotten-that-hillary-pretty-much-called-a-gold-star-mother-a-liar-n2200420 

"As the Daily Caller reported in April, new State Department documents showed Clinton offered different stories to foreign leaders about the night of the Benghazi attack, telling the Egyptian Foreign Minster that a “stupid, very offensive film” was the point source for the upheaval in the region. During her 11-hour testimony to Congress, emails showed that Clinton knew this was a terrorist attack, and not the result of a video—or part of some protest. And on Fox News Sunday, she said that she didn’t hold any ill feelings toward those families who in their grief might have forgotten what she said to them as the caskets of their loved ones were off loaded. Both Smith and the father of Tyrone Woods, another Benghazi victim, have said that Clinton told them the Innocence Of Muslims was the reason the compound was attacked."

She lied directly to the parents.
Emails exposed during testimony show that Hillary was aware the Benghazi attack was terrorists. NOT an uprising over a video.


tailgater
10 years ago

I think the perceive bias in the media is largely owing to Trump being an embarrassment to his party. Add to this our on going embarrassment in front of other countries because of his grade school remarks and it seems clear why news would focus on his foibles.

Brewha wrote:



You may be correct.
But that would be admitting that the media is indeed biased. Something you've been unwilling to admit previously.

tonygraz
10 years ago
I'm sure Brewski would admit that Fox was biased, unfair and unbalanced.
DrafterX
10 years ago
I heard Eleanor told Hillary to say those things... 😟
Brewha
10 years ago

You may be correct.
But that would be admitting that the media is indeed biased. Something you've been unwilling to admit previously.

tailgater wrote:


While I find it hard not to lampoon FoxNews for their selling opinions as fact, it happens on both sides of the fence. The media is largely biased - unfortunately. And yes - the liberal media does it too.

They are also painfully guilty of fact stacking and describing events in emotional terms - so as to tell us what to think of things. Oddly, some gravitate to this - others are appalled.

But I think most people walk way with the conclusions and opinions they are given. Critical thinking is starting to look like a lost art here in the states....
DrafterX
10 years ago
It is odd how reporting actual quotes can being taken as bias tho... 🤔

and then be argued by the other side with 'She didn't mean that'.... 😟
banderl
10 years ago
😂

It is odd how reporting actual quotes can being taken as bias tho... 🤔

and then be argued by the other side with 'She didn't mean that'....

DrafterX wrote:




😂
DrafterX
10 years ago
opelmanta1900
10 years ago

I think the perceive bias in the media is largely owing to Trump being an embarrassment to his party. Add to this our on going embarrassment in front of other countries because of his grade school remarks and it seems clear why news would focus on his foibles.

Brewha wrote:



Doesn't really add up... Obama has been in power for 8 years and the rest of the world thinks he's a joke, and not just an embarrassment for his party but the whole country... so why wasnt the media exercising bias against him?

Trump speaks without thinking, shoots from the hip, spends a lot of time backpedaling and will ultimately - if elected - accomplish only a fraction of what he's promised...

Obama speaks carefully, rarely shoots from the hip, spends a lot of his time defending his decisions and ultimately - once elected - accomplished only a fraction of what he promised...
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