SteveS
9 years ago

... please tell the world what Obama did to make the U.S. and the world a safer place.

Burner02 wrote:



He did absolutely NOTHING to make the world safer ... he significantly weakened the US, created a wave of uncertainty among our allies, emboldened adversaries around the world, particularly in the middle east where he paved the way for ISIS (or ISIL), gave tacit approval to Irans nuclear bomb plans, put Israel in a bind ... etc., etc., etc. ...

In retrospect, it's safe to say that most of this was intentional ... he was very deliberate in reducing the status of the US as the "colonial power" his father envisioned the US being ...

Most of us won't live to see it, but I'm very confident in saying that the future will define him as being among the worst presidents this country ever had ... that is to say, if this country manages to survive the damage ...
DrafterX
9 years ago
the fake news media will play him up to be God and the next generation will grow up believing it... 😟
delta1
9 years ago
Just remember the mess that existed in the US after GWB when Obama took office...
Burner02
9 years ago

Just remember the mess that existed in the US after GWB when Obama took office...

delta1 wrote:




I will give you that .....but Obama did nothing for the U.S.
tonygraz
9 years ago
He did all he could while being obstructed by a republican congress. Perhaps you forgot what an economic mess he inherited.
DrafterX
9 years ago
And the rewriting of history begins... 😟
frankj1
9 years ago
I heard he got Saddam
Burner02
9 years ago

He did all he could while being obstructed by a republican congress. Perhaps you forgot what an economic mess he inherited.

tonygraz wrote:



Can't blame anyone for his failed foreign policy other than Obama himself.
frankj1
9 years ago
every President inherits the world left to him by his predecessor, and those factors can not be ignored when foreign policy begins for the newly elected.
Bush and his president Cheney inherited a tough hand globally, not more so than others foe sure.

They had the world's sympathy after 9/11, somehow magically converted that into hatred.

DrafterX
9 years ago
all by himself huh..?? 🤔
frankj1
9 years ago
nope. President Cheney helped a lot.

But Saddam was under control (no-fly zones) for years when he came in. He even ignored his Daddy, he went after (oil) Saddam instead of bin Laden, and a country sealed off under a brutal regime imploded and every hateful terrorist in the area rushed in...all on his watch.

This is not meant to pardon any before nor after, but non partisan history would agree with the above events.
DrafterX
9 years ago
If only Saddam hadn't kicked out the inspectors and stuff..... And by his own admission let us believe he had chemical weapons to make himself look cool to his followers... 😟
DrafterX
9 years ago
It's an old argument now... but it didn't have to happen.. Saddam brought it on himself.... He could have prevented the war by cooperating....
If you draw a red line you gotta follow thru... look at Syria now... 😟
SteveS
9 years ago

If only Saddam hadn't kicked out the inspectors and stuff..... And by his own admission let us believe he had chemical weapons to make himself look cool to his followers...

DrafterX wrote:



he did NOT "lead us to believe" ... we KNEW he had them ... because we PROVIDED him with them ... back when he was fighting with Iran ... he USED THEM in subjugating some of his own people ... this was not guesswork or spycraft done badly ... he got them from the United States ... also, we knew he was working to build a nuclear weapon ...

what we DON'T know is where he hid them ... but there is no question that he had them and was shifting them around the country (and possibly in Syria and/or other countries) ... remember, absence of proof is not proof of absence ...
tonygraz
9 years ago
I remember a pre-war2 inspector who said there were no WMDs and was ridiculed and denegrated as a result. Maybe Saddam used them all, but the repubs will be looking for them forever.
TMCTLT
9 years ago

You republicans blame Obama for everything - yet fail to recall that he came to the show late and long after the damage had been done. Obama had nothing to do with the support for the Shah that turned Iran against us and had nothing to do with us giving arms to both sides in the Iran-Iraq war. It was long ago when we provided funding and arms to Israel so they could defend themselves against the Arabs around them. Then there was the Bush wars against Iraq that left them unable to resist Islamic radicals taking over parts of the country and making Iran the elephant in the room. And now we have a nutcase in the white house that will probably start or encourage wars with Iran and North Korea while alienating many of our allies. It's not the black guy that caused those problems.

tonygraz wrote:





So you still think that anyone who thought Obama SUCKED as POTUS.....was because he was 1/2 Black not because he....just SUCKED???? Got it.....BUT your wrong, he just sucked.
Perhaps if he wasn't so invested in social re-engineering here in the US. with the whole transgender BS and trying to divide us by skin color he could have spent more time on World issues. See even you are able to look past his White heritage and ONLY refer to him as a Black man, that's called Racism Toni
MACS
9 years ago

If only Saddam hadn't kicked out the inspectors and stuff..... And by his own admission let us believe he had chemical weapons to make himself look cool to his followers... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



He had 'em. They're being used in Syria, where they were moved while the inspectors were rebuffed and stalled.
gummy jones
9 years ago

Russian continues to fly their Tu-95 "Bear" long-range nuclear bombers within the U.S. Air Defense Identification Zone -- now spanning a four day stretch, according to Fox News.

The same Russian bombers intentionally flew off the coast of the United States on Monday, which triggered two F-22 fighter jets and an E-3 airborne early warning plane to intercept the aircraft. And last week, Russia performed the same stunt off the coast of Japan to "send a message.”

Last week, President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson both said that relations with Russia were at an all-time low.

tonygraz
9 years ago

So you still think that anyone who thought Obama SUCKED as POTUS.....was because he was 1/2 Black not because he....just SUCKED???? Got it.....BUT your wrong, he just sucked.
Perhaps if he wasn't so invested in social re-engineering here in the US. with the whole transgender BS and trying to divide us by skin color he could have spent more time on World issues. See even you are able to look past his White heritage and ONLY refer to him as a Black man, that's called Racism Toni

TMCTLT wrote:



No, trolly- you suck !
frankj1
9 years ago

It's an old argument now... but it didn't have to happen.. Saddam brought it on himself.... He could have prevented the war by cooperating....
If you draw a red line you gotta follow thru... look at Syria now... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


the reason for hunting him was phonied up. the original hunt was for the 9/11 perp

he got it during Obama's term in office.
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