DrafterX
8 years ago
Wtf are you talking about..?? 😟
RMAN4443
8 years ago
"if you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr.":-k ...................truth in Politics???
Kawak
8 years ago

The US government negotiated in good faith to get these illegal immigrants to become documented and in the system. If DACA is ended, ICE will likely just use those existing records to find and deport them immediately. It appears pretty poor form.

victor809 wrote:




DACA was an executive order ya nit. Courtesy of your off white, cocoa, beige, brownish, sometimes tan, sometimes white king. I know you notice peoples colors

Orange Lives Matter
victor809
8 years ago
How is an executive order not the us government?


Ya nit...
DrafterX
8 years ago
Nit..?? 🤔
Kawak
8 years ago

How is an executive order not the us government?


Ya nit...

victor809 wrote:




Do you even read your own chit? There was no negotiation. Executive order is king Barry saying "I'll do what I want, I don't need you". At least Mr. orange's EO to remove it gave the congress 4-5 months to work on it. He could have just ended it.
HuckFinn
8 years ago
Two nits are better than one
DrafterX
8 years ago
Sounds like Vic is looking for a reason to blame Trump for the Schumer Shutdown.. 😟
HuckFinn
8 years ago

Sounds like Vic is looking for a reason to blame Trump for the Schumer Shutdown.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Shadenfreude
delta1
8 years ago

DACA was an executive order ya nit. Courtesy of your off white, cocoa, beige, brownish, sometimes tan, sometimes white king. I know you notice peoples colors

Orange Lives Matter

Kawak wrote:




dammit...he's back!!! Didn't take long, he must be low....

or....................he likes us, he really likes us!!!
RMAN4443
8 years ago

Shadenfreude

HuckFinn wrote:



Gesundheit!!!!!!🍺
frankj1
8 years ago
very thoughtful.
victor809
8 years ago

Do you even read your own chit? There was no negotiation. Executive order is king Barry saying "I'll do what I want, I don't need you". At least Mr. orange's EO to remove it gave the congress 4-5 months to work on it. He could have just ended it.

Kawak wrote:



You realize that when I say "US government negotiated in good faith to get these illegal immigrants to become documented...." that I'm not talking about congress negotiating with every illegal immigrant, right? Or even Obama negotiating wtih every illegal immigrant.

Its a pretty simple idea. The US government set up a program (doesn't matter if it was EO or congress voted on it). The people who qualified had to choose to enter into it... they had to submit their information. That's the negotiation. the illegal immigrants could have chosen not to enter into the program. Hell, apparently there are even fees.

If you take that program away, you are essentially reneging on an existing agreement. Not just that, but the people (700k) who entered all their information into the program are now extraordinarily exposed, as ICE now knows exactly who they are and where they live and work. It's seriously bad form. But I don't expect you to understand that...

And Trump giving "congress 4-5 months to work it out"... they offered him a joint solution days ago and he said he wouldn't vote on it. After saying he would vote on anything they brought him. It's irrelevant if he gives them 4months, 5 months, or 25 months if he's going to refuse to sign anything both sides of congress agree on. He has no credibility.
HuckFinn
8 years ago

Gesundheit!!!!!!🍺

RMAN4443 wrote:


schadenfreudeèeeee
Damn.
Thank you.
RMAN4443
8 years ago

very thoughtful.

frankj1 wrote:


Thank You, that one year of German in High School finally paid off.....8-[
DrafterX
8 years ago
Last I heard they were working on a deal.. he said he has no intention of killing the deal.. Like I said, there is nothing to vote on today.. 😟
victor809
8 years ago
Honestly, whatever you think of DACA, whether you like it or want to get rid of it... can anyone honestly advise a congressperson to trust the president any longer?

"We'll totally take care of that in time" may have been good enough for other presidents, but when this one has literally changed positions within a day on a number of proposed bills or even executive orders (he can't even be trustworthy to himself).... that's just meaningless.

Seems to me that no matter who you are, if you have something important you want to get done with this administration, you need to hold something hostage which is important to the orange moron. That's how he's operated his businesses for decades... get someone to do something for you, then don't hold up your end of the deal (pay them). The dems got burned on this a few times, and it looks like they learned their lesson.

frankj1
8 years ago

You realize that when I say "US government negotiated in good faith to get these illegal immigrants to become documented...." that I'm not talking about congress negotiating with every illegal immigrant, right? Or even Obama negotiating wtih every illegal immigrant.

Its a pretty simple idea. The US government set up a program (doesn't matter if it was EO or congress voted on it). The people who qualified had to choose to enter into it... they had to submit their information. That's the negotiation. the illegal immigrants could have chosen not to enter into the program. Hell, apparently there are even fees.

If you take that program away, you are essentially reneging on an existing agreement. Not just that, but the people (700k) who entered all their information into the program are now extraordinarily exposed, as ICE now knows exactly who they are and where they live and work. It's seriously bad form. But I don't expect you to understand that...

And Trump giving "congress 4-5 months to work it out"... they offered him a joint solution days ago and he said he wouldn't vote on it. After saying he would vote on anything they brought him. It's irrelevant if he gives them 4months, 5 months, or 25 months if he's going to refuse to sign anything both sides of congress agree on. He has no credibility.

victor809 wrote:


accurate.

and to add fuel to the fire, calling them "illegal" is borderline, they were brought here as children (like they had a choice), raised with our kids, educated here, may have served in the military, many went to college and assimilated (isn't that the idea people?) paid taxes once employed...pretty much like our kids. And they agreed to identify themselves, not hiding.

They aren't stealing lettuce picking jobs. These aren't the ones you want out. The Dreamers want to live The Dream and did all that was asked. If they took a job from your kid, tell your kid to try harder.

Nothing was given.
victor809
8 years ago
Quack has a lettuce picking job?

.... explains things.
DrafterX
8 years ago
This doesn't have to be decided today... A bad reason to shut down the gubment... Protecting illegal aliens is more important than funding our military..?? Really..?? 😕
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