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frankj1
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8 years ago

#61

Sorry but inaccurate.

Tell me again why many colleges have given these dreamers in-state tuition but 2 of my grandkids have to pay out-of-state tuition to go to that same school.

deadeyedick wrote:

I can not answer that question specifically for state colleges.
can you tell me why we want these kids deported?

gummy jones
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8 years ago

#62

Shut it down

Stop kicking the can down the road

Our government is a collective joke

Reelection and maintaining oligarch status is all they care about

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#63

Seems 5 years ago during the 2 week shut down around 850,000 government workers were furloughed and it cost the government (us) more than $2.5 billion.

They're saying some agencies are better prepared this go-round. Have new revenue streams. So they can still operate and issue checks.

Still, government employees that are considered essential are gonna have to work with no paycheck. [gofishin] or....maybe there are options?

Thank god Lawmakers will continue to receive their pay, although some lower-level staffers may not.

And my cigars, i mean the mail will be delivered!! Ah yes!
Cause, neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night NOR GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds
Weather permitting

victor809
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8 years ago

#64

I don't see how a kid having to pay out of state tuition for a college out of state is germane to the discussion. If the illegal applied to a state they didn't live in they would have to pay out of state tuition too .

It isn't like you can't move the kid to the state to get residency after two years. ... or send them to a better college.

frankj1
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8 years ago

#65

out of state and out of country kids pay full boat making it possible for in state kids to pay fantastically affordable rates for excellent educations.

Phil222
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8 years ago

#66

With the money that we spend on illegal immigration, we could send every kid in this country to college for free and still have around 25 billion dollars left over annually.

teedubbya
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8 years ago

#67

Funny to see roles reversed in here. Think of what you were saying last time. Is it the opposite this time. Both sides.

delta1
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8 years ago

#68

The GOP was playing hardball back in 2013 because they didn't want to fund Obamacare...and were blaming it on the President...Dems were outraged...

now the GOP has its President in office, one who is on record as saying we could use a good shutdown, and they are outraged because not enough Dems supported their position, yet not ONE voted against the shutdown then...there were a few GOP Sen who voted against this bill......hypocrisy?

Guess the GOP doesn't like it when Dems play "hardball" (five crossed party lines, but not enough) politics...they never thought it would happen, so they didn't see a need to compromise...

I am outraged that there will be a shutdown, but this is not entirely on the Dems...Trump could've helped with the DACA part, but he didn't provide the leadership he said Obama lacked and he reneged on his support for DACA...

Maybe Trump was right about a shutdown being good right about now...the last one didn't collapse the USA, and neither will this one. I wonder what happened to the idea that our Congressmen, House and Senate, shouldn't be paid if they allow the govt. to shut down?

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

TMCTLT
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8 years ago

#69

With the money that we spend on illegal immigration, we could send every kid in this country to college for free and still have around 25 billion dollars left over annually.

Phil222 wrote:

THIS I can agree with....because it's TRUE.

TMCTLT
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8 years ago

#70

I can not answer that question specifically for state colleges.
can you tell me why we want these kids deported?

frankj1 wrote:

YES....they're here illegally and untold amounts of taxpayer funded resources are used up on them WITHOUT our approval as our men and Women in our military forces who have ALREADY GIVEN cannot now receive the proper medical care they so desperately DESERVE!!
Their bending the ears of OUR....get that OUR elected officials to be sympathetic to their cause and go AGAINST what the MAJORITY of Americans want. I'm sorry I do NOT feel as though we OWE them ANYTHING...and I want all that $$$$ spent on these law breakers to go to OUR CHILDREN and GRANDCHILDREN.

If they( the F'n dreamers) want to be pissed @ someone or something....let them focus their angst on THEIR PARENTS or the corrupt Sh*thole government they they came from and now abandoned.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

deadeyedick
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8 years ago

#71

I can not answer that question specifically for state colleges.
can you tell me why we want these kids deported?

frankj1 wrote:

Frank, can you tell me why you think I want these kids deported? Or did you just assume that? We may but I may not.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

deadeyedick
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8 years ago

#72

victor809 wrote:

There are some things you don't see because you don't look. My comment was not meant to be germane to this discussion but only to an assertion Frank made in this discussion. Carry on.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#73

We should all be outraged.. but some are celebrating.. 😟

tailgater
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8 years ago

#74

Honestly, whatever you think of DACA, whether you like it or want to get rid of it... can anyone honestly advise a congressperson to trust the president any longer?

victor809 wrote:

And there it is.
Justification to do or say anything. Because....Trump.

tailgater
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8 years ago

#75

out of state and out of country kids pay full boat making it possible for in state kids to pay fantastically affordable rates for excellent educations.

frankj1 wrote:

Meanwhile, we're all eating gumdrops falling from the sky while riding our unicorns.

Frankie T, I hope you were being sarcastic.

tailgater
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8 years ago

#76

Let's make this simple.

Every politician who chose DACA over military families should be forced to resign immediately.

And stop calling them "dreamers".
They're children of illegal immigrants.
Doesn't make the "kids" (many are over 18 now) bad. But it does put them as a lower priority than the families who sacrifice so their loved ones can serve our military.

Republican.
Democrat.
Independent.
I simply don't care.

If you voted to stop paying our military you don't deserve to serve in our political system.

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#77

We should all be outraged.. but some are celebrating.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Who the hell is celebrating?

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#78

Schumer & Pelosi for starters.. I'm sure The Resistance is celebrating also... A big ole Resistance circle jerk going on all night... 😟

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#79

tailgater wrote:

Military: The active-duty military will remain on the job, and military operations in places like Afghanistan would continue. Guidance from the Defense Department issued on Friday said military personnel would not be paid (they'll get all that's owed them when the SD ends)
neither would necessary civilian personnel. In previous shutdowns, training missions were curtailed. Military contractors would not be affected, as long as their work has already been funded.

Veterans Affairs: Ever since a scare about veterans not getting their health care during the last government shutdown, the Veterans Health Administration has been getting its funding appropriated in advance. According to the VA, 95.5 percent of its employees are exempted from a shutdown and would come to work. So the VA says it will suffer no effects from a shutdown.
https://www.npr.org/2018/01/19/578985305/open-or-closed-heres-what-happens-in-a-partial-government-shutdown

Dude, stop playing the freaking blame game. You want total exoneration? Me too!

frankj1
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8 years ago

#80

Frank, can you tell me why you think I want these kids deported? Or did you just assume that? We may but I may not.

deadeyedick wrote:

I assumed it...and I do know the assume rule!

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