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RMAN4443
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#21

I still think it is small minded on your part, but if Huck is fine with it who am I to quibble? Carry on.

Disagree with you about Helsinki.
Agree with yo about borders.
Not sure of your point about Tsarnev, please elaborate.
Agree with you about ICE, and would throw sanctuary cities in there as wrong and illegal.
Agree with you about Bill Clinton, and believe the senate should have voted him out of office.
Agree with you about Trumps infidelities.

Helsinki, my problem is 3 fold. I think meeting with Putin was as worthless as meeting with Kim Jung Un. Trump said he believed Putin over our security agencies. Trump said he was considering allowing Russia to question American citizens.

Tsarnev, what do you think could have stopped that?

Speyside wrote:

Good to know your ok with it if huck says it's ok...[-o< ...was that your own idea or did huck tell you it was ok with him for you to be ok with it?

if we open the borders and allow anyone in, do we allow Russians and known terrorists to waltz in too?

If Trump didn't meet with Putin and Un, he would have been derided for that....it was a no win...I think it's called Diplomacy, and Trump says a lot of stupid things, I already gave you that one

I think, had the FBI followed up on the report sent to them by Russia on the Tsarnevs in 2011 it could have been prevented...that's kinda like our intelligence agencies not acting on accurate information...from(I won't say it,I know how you feel), but had our intelligence agencies reacted properly to that tidbit of information,lives would have been saved...But in the words of Hildog..".what difference.at this point does it make'

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-explosions-boston-congress/russia-warned-u-s-about-boston-marathon-bomb-suspect-tsarnaev-report-idUSBREA2P02Q20140326

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/boston-bombing-anniversary/russia-warned-u-s-about-tsarnaev-spelling-issue-let-him-n60836

and I still don't get you jumping in to protect huck, and I guess the rest of the "Liberal Tribe",if you agree with most of the points I've been arguing... because huck and I disagree, you decide you need to jump in and say "RMAN, you want to insult people, I think I'll insult back"....I haven't been insulting liberals, just your favorite liberal? Jeez, it's not like I was insulting you....

….and I've read many of your posts insulting people, but never felt the urge to jump in and insult you for them....small minded?...not really sure, I never gave you that much thought

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Speyside
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#22

RMAN, I see a lot of conservative dog piles here on liberals. Basically I am tired of it. Perhaps I have not paid enough attention. If this is a you and Huck thing then I am out of line. It seems Huck gets ganged up on often. I think he deserves the right to be heard and not shouted down. So, I simply will offer you a blanket apology as it appears I have misunderstood your reasoning. You are right, you have not insulted me.

RMAN4443
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#23

Speyside wrote:

We good?.....I never really had an argument with you until this

Huck doesn't get shouted down....he makes his points known, and he has his backers...a lot of people take offense at some of the ideas he puts forth, and people let him know it...that's what this forum is all about ,right?

There's just as many liberal dog piles as conservative...different points of view

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#24

I keep seeing my name!

Here is am, minding my own business and....

.....leave me tf alone!

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#25

I'm actually glad you're here, Huck...I was one of the lib lightning rods who got "shouted down" a lot before your time...I was asked on many occasions why I hate America, told I'd be happier if I left this country, and then "invited" to leave...fun times...all good...

Got some perspective, tho, meeting fellow CBid brothers in person, most of whom are on the opposite side of the political spectrum...we get after it here, but are good friends when we get chances to herf: MACS, Abrignac, opelmanta, Palama ...recently met Drafter and Victor at the Morro Bay FishnHerf...both good dudes whose company I totally enjoyed...

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#26

delta1 wrote:

Will keep what you say in mind.
Thanks Delta

Speyside
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#27

There is a lot of revisionist history going on here. For as long as I remember liberals have been shouted down and dog piled on here. Now the conservatives are getting bent out of shape if they are called out. Equal treatment seems fair to me. There are a few obvious points, even though liberals usually provide facts they are always accused of making things up. You have seen the level of deflection and bombast when conservatives are either unwilling or unable to back their arguments with facts. Finally there are a few people here who are simply mean spirited and expect people to take their utterances as fact.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#28

I thought I was Mr. Congeniality.
WTF?

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#29

Youse guys... 🤣

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#30

San Francisco is permitting “undocumented immigrants,” as political correctness demands we label them, to register to vote this November in local school board elections. Who doubts this is the first step by the left and Democrats toward full voting rights in state and eventually in federal elections? The claim by lawyers will be that it is discriminatory to allow undocumented immigrants to vote in local and state elections and not for members of Congress and for president. At bottom this is what the entire immigration debate is about.

The former head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was interviewed last week on Fox News. Thomas Homan had some important things to say about calls by the left to dismantle the agency.

“What's incredible,” Homan said, “is these politicians, members of the legislature, would much rather abolish a law enforcement agency than fix the law. ... ICE is enforcing the laws they enacted.”

That’s because politicians, who often pass laws that exempt themselves, care more about their re-election than they do about having laws they passed enforced.

Homan responded to the narrative promoted by Democrats and the major media that the overwhelming number of people arrested by ICE are innocents seeking a better life in America:

“What's incredible is these politicians, members of the legislature, would much rather abolish a law enforcement agency than fix the law. ... ICE is enforcing the laws they enacted.”

“People want to ignore the data and the fact that ... 89 percent of everybody we arrested last year had a criminal history, either a criminal conviction or pending criminal charges,” Homan said. “We are prioritizing against the criminals. And abolishing ICE, there are going to be (fewer) criminals locked up. Over 100,000 criminal aliens have been arrested this year walking the streets of this country. That wouldn’t happen if ICE wasn’t there.”

Film at 11.... 🤔

Speyside
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#31

ICE serves an important purpose. The idea of dissolving it is very problematic. It is a much better idea to fix laws that have inherent flaws.

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#32

I agree. I'm sure that those who say they want to abolish ICE don't really mean "abolish ICE". Just abolish the current practices that remove human dignity from people who want to escape from a dangerous and violent environment for them and their kids and try to find a safe haven.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#33

Stop enforcing the laws then right..?? 😕

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#34

no, grasshopper...life is more complex...not everything is as simple as yes or no...use the example of King Solomon to guide your answer to your own question...