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Speyside
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7 years ago

I am pro choice, my friend Dan is pro life. I feel strongly that none of his tax money should fund abortions and twice as much of my tax money should fund abortions. I am not talking about him paying less taxes and me paying more taxes. Rather a redistribution of how part of our taxes are spent.

Also I think abortion is wrong, but feel a womans choice to control her own body takes precedence until such time as the fetus could become a viable human being outside of the womb.

Not looking for heated discussion, rather I thought these would be good discussions.

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opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

1. You thought wrong.

2. You're gonna get what you're not looking for.

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

I think we should encourage people to have more abortions... thus, I'm neither pro-life, nor pro-choice... but pro-abortion.

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

I did tell a guy in Vegas this weekend that he was the reason people got abortions... So I'm pro-abortion insults...

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

So we agree then 😛

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

I'm with bgz on this.
I'm probably abortion up to the 57th trimester.... For any reason. Damn thing looks at you funny? Pull the plug.

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

Probably=pro... Damn phone

Gene363
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7 years ago

If a Mother choses to murder, (abortion = murder) her child, has consent from the Father and isn't past the first trimester, let the miserable biotches have at, the government has no business up a woman's skirt.

Public money should not be used for abortions, it's murder, not health care. One possible exception, if three doctors agree that childbirth would cause the death of the Mother its healthcare and in that case public funds would be acceptable, however, the operation should also include a tubal ligation.

Our civilization will be judged by how we treat the youngest and the oldest members of society.

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bgz
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

I've argued this on here before... You talk about public funds going towards unwanted pregnancies (or pregnancies of kids who have no business being parents)...

What's more expensive, an abortion, or a life of welfare and incarceration.

My position is a fiscally conservative position. I can also argue it's a better position for moral reasons as well, but I'm sold from the financial perspective... so I won't.

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#10

It's funny you'd be wrong within the first sentence Gene.

Murder is defined by the state... Not by you. If a death is legal it isn't murder.

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#11

That's true, murder is defined as an unlawful killing.

Abortion != murder.

Looks like today is an agree with victor day.

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#12

Every day is an agree with Victor day. You just usually forget to check your calendar.

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#13

My dog ate it.

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#14

if it gives him cancer victor will adopt him...

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#15

It did say on it that it contained materials known to cause cancer in the state of California, but he ate it here, and not in California, so he should be alright.

Just Relax
Aficionado

7 years ago

#16

I’m pro life. Dividing taxes up based on what people want is a bad idea IMO. Donations can be made to causes on both sides. What bothers me is the way many pro lifers treat girls wanting an abortion. Instead of spewing hate on someone already in a terrible position that energy should be spent providing a better option for her in a loving manner. Instead of picketing planned parenthood and calling them whores spend that time lobbying for better paths for adoption for couples who want kids but can’t have them. If there were better options than killing a child and living with that for the rest of their life due to current circumstances I bet some would take it.

Gene363
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7 years ago

#17

It's funny you'd be wrong within the first sentence Gene.

Murder is defined by the state... Not by you. If a death is legal it isn't murder.

victor809 wrote:

You are mistaken, I posted my opinion, this is a discussion, not necessarily current law. On the positive side, you appear to agree abortion causes a death.

FWIW, Many states have Fetal homicide laws, when even Kommefornia, "Cal. Penal Code § 187 (a) defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being or a fetus with malice aforethought."

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Gene363
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7 years ago

#18

Just Relax wrote:

There are better option, birth control is cheap and effective. Drop by most any public health department and they will be happy to send you out with free condoms. A woman is also free not to open that taco stand in the first place.

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victor809
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#19

Gene...
Unlawful is the key word there. If the state made killing homeless legal, then it wouldn't be murder.

(Note... "State" in my statements is not individual states, it is "government")

Death is a relatively meaningless word. I can cause death to a fruitfly and not find it significant. To end the parasitic existence of a cluster of cells is a "death" but not the death if anything important.

.... (Or is that the homeless again....)

victor809
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#20

Birth control fails occasionally gene. Not a huge percentage, but millions of people screwing means you have a very significant number of failed birth control babies.
Not to mention that a lot of those places that distribute birth control are planned Parenthood centers which are being shut down in some states....
And your putting it on the woman "opening the taco stand" is pretty questionable. What if the circumstances under which she "opened the taco stand" have changed? What if someone "broke into the taco stand"?

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