Speyside
7 years ago
Turns out Ivanka sent non government secured emails to people like cabinet members during 2017. I imagine our conservatives here want the same justice for Ivanka that they have wanted for Hillary for years so lock her up!
frankj1
7 years ago
no they don't.
RMAN4443
7 years ago
Let's address Hildog's issues first, so we have a precedent, then we can worry about Ivanka...if she broke the law,she should be dealt with the same way Hildog fared
MACS
7 years ago
If it's true, I don't like it. However... given the fact Ivanka is new to politics and OpSec, I'd be more willing to see her clearance revoked than jail time. But she should feel some form of reprimand. This isn't something to be taken lightly, obviously.

Hillary? Well versed in politics and OpSec. She knew what she was doing, and did it anyway. But as RMan said... the precedent has been set... by the DEMS... so they look like absolute hypocrites. Surprise! Not.
Krazeehorse
7 years ago
One comparison the MSM made is that Ivanka did not use her own server and she did not delete the emails. Like Macs said. The precedent has been set. You can say shame on you all you want but if there's no consequences then there's no need to modify your behavior. (But I'm old enough to remember when being told "shame on you" WAS a consequence and you WERE ashamed)
Burner02
7 years ago

Turns out Ivanka sent non government secured emails to people like cabinet members during 2017. I imagine our conservatives here want the same justice for Ivanka that they have wanted for Hillary for years so lock her up!

Speyside wrote:




It appears Spey that you are comparing apples and oranges. But if Ivanka breached gov com protocol then she should receive the appropriate level of punishment. I do find it very humorous that many on left are putting this at the level of setting up an unauthorized server in a non government facility and transmitting "CLASSIFIED" info through said server. Also, primary purpose for server was to conceal communications about ones involvement in a certain "Foundation."

Just curious, where was your concern this past week when it was released that it was documented that Comey used his personal email account to send FBI related sensitive emails. So sensitive that the contents can not be released to the public.
surfish1961
7 years ago

Turns out Ivanka sent non government secured emails to people like cabinet members during 2017. I imagine our conservatives here want the same justice for Ivanka that they have wanted for Hillary for years so lock her up!

Speyside wrote:


Maybe. But did she delete 33,000+ e-mails, destroy 2 cell phones with a hammer, and wipe a private server clean with "BleachBit" all under subpoena by a government agency. If she didn't then STFU.

I also don't believe she's Secretary of State.
teedubbya
7 years ago
Despite all the expert opinion in here Hillary was investigated multiple times and there was nothing actionable discovered. Most folks in here disagree with the results and often spread misinformation. Some of which is in this very thread and I think folks here actually beleive the misinformation.

We wasted a lot of time and money on those investigations for purely political purposes and to paint the picture that the Clintons are above the law. An easy picture to paint given their slimey actions.

So we elect a reality tv carnival barker because he isn’t Hillary. The dude and his family also beleive they are above the law, entitled and are every bit as slimy or more than the Clintons. Yet we are willing to rationalize it all because.... well Hillary or Obama.

Many of you are exactly what you profess to despise.

The Hillary investigations were obsessive and more than complete. They showed slime not crime which is no surprise. Some think it was crime but if there was she’d go down. Lock her up is a stupid farce some buy in to.

As for Ivanka same deal. Slime no crime likely. Do one tenth of the investigation done on Hillary and if no obvious crime move on.

Hillary is Trump, Trump is Hillary and the hatfields and McCoy’s dig in thinking they are being logical.

Nothing new here.
DrafterX
7 years ago
You sure love Hillary... 😟
DrafterX
7 years ago
So she really did just wipe her server with a rag or somethin..?? 😕
bgz
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7 years ago
There's protocols in place for a reason and I mostly agree with MACS. I think Hillary's private email server was a much larger risk due to her powerful position. I also think her strategy was far more dangerous to national security as she had some guy of unknown tech skills managing her personal server out of her toilet room. What kind of security was in place there? Was the dude any good? Was he trustworthy? In any case, the situation was much more shady than Ivanka's.

With that, Ivanka should have known better. With all that was said on the campaign trail, she should have known better. I think she should be punished, but it likely won't happen.

Comparing the two, I would say the Hillary situation was more shady, where Ivanka situation was just pure incompetence.

Lock 'em both up IMO.
Speyside
7 years ago
Burner, I am not concerned. I am just pointing out the obvious. Hillary committed no chargeable crime, neither did Ivanka. But people still argue that Hillary should be convicted, which is absurd. The lock her up theme played to a bunch of people in Trumps base. It still does. They both broke the same protocols, they both should be held to the same standards. The apples to oranges analogy does not work. They both used non government servers. It is not a question of private server versus public server. Nor is it a matter of content. It is about using a non government server.
DrafterX
7 years ago
If someone else was in charge Hillary would have been convicted.. ignoring that is insanity.. 😟
ZRX1200
7 years ago
Not a matter of content???
Speyside
7 years ago
Thinking that is insanity.
DrafterX
7 years ago
Highly Careless but not Negligent...

Get real.. 🤐
ZRX1200
7 years ago
Right, because everyone has equal access in the executive branch to all levels of classification.
ZRX1200
7 years ago
You do understand the differences between potential and actionable threats right? And the difference between a WH advisor and someone who has oversight over HUMINT assists?
Speyside
7 years ago
Do you understand the law?
Abrignac
7 years ago

Do you understand the law?

Speyside wrote:



I’ve not had the time to research this issue. What law are you suggesting she broke?
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