tailgater
7 years ago
Victor, you're not even making sense.
Just calling them students?
Back pedaling?

I know you physically feel it in your sphincter every time someone disparages the left mindedness of college students. So your desperate retort was not unexpected.
Nor was your penchant (some might call it a habit) of blaming me for your discomfort.
Practically predictable.

But I've been consistent.

there are over 200 signatures on the petition.
I don't pretend to be a seer or read minds, but I have a feeling that at least some of those signatures belong to law students.
Maybe you know otherwise?

And it wouldn't even matter if there weren't.

The identity politics played by Harvard et al, is from the top down.

We could have discussed whether it's excessive or even if that's a bad thing.
But you chose to attack me for pointing it out.

Typical.



victor809
7 years ago

Victor, you're not even making sense.
Just calling them students?
Back pedaling?

I know you physically feel it in your sphincter every time someone disparages the left mindedness of college students. So your desperate retort was not unexpected.
Nor was your penchant (some might call it a habit) of blaming me for your discomfort.
Practically predictable.

But I've been consistent.

there are over 200 signatures on the petition.
I don't pretend to be a seer or read minds, but I have a feeling that at least some of those signatures belong to law students.
Maybe you know otherwise?

And it wouldn't even matter if there weren't.

The identity politics played by Harvard et al, is from the top down.

We could have discussed whether it's excessive or even if that's a bad thing.
But you chose to attack me for pointing it out.

Typical.



tailgater wrote:



No... I attack you for being inconsistent, for essentially telling your "opponents" what they think so you have something to argue, and for not being particularly bright.

You've harped on this petition multiple times now. The petition which states clearly in the opening paragraph that the dude defended a harvard economics professor (as in legal defense) in title IX issues. Who cares if some of those 200 signatures is a law student. That's a valid reason, whether you're a law student or not.

And hilariously, you complain about "identity politics" but haven't even started to explain how this plays into that nonsense. I think that's just a term you heard somewhere and wanted a reason to use it.

Then you claim the "identity politics" is played from the top down.... when this is a student petition to remove a house dean (wouldn't that be from the bottom up?)

Just stop being so terrible at logic and I won't attack you.
Speyside
7 years ago
^ Isn't your last statement quite illogical?
victor809
7 years ago
Speyside
7 years ago
How would tail be able to stop using terrible logic? But perhaps paradoxical would be more accurate. I think it is more likely that Trump will be presidential, than tail will be logical.
victor809
7 years ago
tailgater
7 years ago

No... I attack you for being inconsistent, for essentially telling your "opponents" what they think so you have something to argue, and for not being particularly bright.

You've harped on this petition multiple times now. The petition which states clearly in the opening paragraph that the dude defended a harvard economics professor (as in legal defense) in title IX issues. Who cares if some of those 200 signatures is a law student. That's a valid reason, whether you're a law student or not.

And hilariously, you complain about "identity politics" but haven't even started to explain how this plays into that nonsense. I think that's just a term you heard somewhere and wanted a reason to use it.

Then you claim the "identity politics" is played from the top down.... when this is a student petition to remove a house dean (wouldn't that be from the bottom up?)

Just stop being so terrible at logic and I won't attack you.

victor809 wrote:



Tell me how I told my opponents what they think.
You constantly spew things like this with no examples.
Then you move on, as if NOT proving point is mission accomplished.

I congratulate you on digging out the actual petition. And you make some valid points. But they don't dismiss what I've maintained from the beginning.

Which brings us to the top-down identity politics.
Having a grass roots petitions does not mean there isn't top-down influence. Heck, it practically proves that there is. The identity politics of Harvard University start at the top with their reactionary kowtowing to the liberal trigger dujuor.
Then, to borrow GHWB's vernacular, it trickles down to the faculty and eventually to the students. How could it not? I have to laugh. Not because you think otherwise, but because you think it proves your point!

So reach into your grab bag and accuse me of something else you like to whine about.
And do it without any reference.
I feel like you're my little brother and I'm slapping you with your own hand.
So do me a favor:
Quit hitting yourself!
Quit hitting yourself!
Quit hitting yourself!



tailgater
7 years ago

How would tail be able to stop using terrible logic? But perhaps paradoxical would be more accurate. I think it is more likely that Trump will be presidential, than tail will be logical.

Speyside wrote:



like a high pitched whine.


ZRX1200
7 years ago

Seems like these students do understand the constitution, freedom of speech. The world has passed you by and this angers you every time you see it. This is understandable. Your point of view has became obsolete, except within the group that holds the viewpoint. This group was the majority for a very long time. Now they are the minority. Year by year this minority will be smaller and smaller. Are you already a dinosaur, you just don't see it. You miss the obvious, to the majority of Americans your opinion is worthless. But you will go right on attempting to marginalize what the reality in front of you instead of trying to understand it. Our country is supposed to represent all our people, not just part of the people like you.

Speyside wrote:




Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick.......did that dopamine hit feel good Captain Sanctimony?

😂
victor809
7 years ago

Tell me how I told my opponents what they think.

tailgater wrote:



the students are protesting because of politics.

tail wrote:


They've told you why they are protesting. They did not use any political terms. You have decided to blame it on "identity politics"" (to be fair to you, you only think that because the article you read told you to call it identity politics, your refusal to point out how it's "identity politics" despite my many requests that you do so pretty much proves that).


I congratulate you on digging out the actual petition. And you make some valid points. But they don't dismiss what I've maintained from the beginning.


it actually does dismiss it... completely.... from many angles.
Your initial complaint wanted to stress "students from a prestigious LAW school" these are interior designers... or some other nonsense... your initial complaint only focused on the weinstein defense, but the reality is the petition clearly states an additional reason, one which is very logical.... so even if a law student were supporting this petition, that's not terrible.


Which brings us to the top-down identity politics.
Having a grass roots petitions does not mean there isn't top-down influence. Heck, it practically proves that there is. The identity politics of Harvard University start at the top with their reactionary kowtowing to the liberal trigger dujuor.
Then, to borrow GHWB's vernacular, it trickles down to the faculty and eventually to the students. How could it not? I have to laugh. Not because you think otherwise, but because you think it proves your point!

...sigh wrote:


You still haven't shown how petitioning against this particular professor even is identity politics. I'm not even sure you know what identity politics is at this point.

You certainly don't know what "top down" means.
It's laughable. Your logical leap is "grass roots petitions from students protesting decisions made by faculty is practically proof that the liberal trigger du jour has trickled down to the students".....

By your logic it rained today... so it's gonna be a really dry summer.

Do better tail. You know... be best.



MACS
7 years ago

Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick.......did that dopamine hit feel good Captain Sanctimony? 😂

ZRX1200 wrote:



Okay, now that was funny.

And if the world has passed by... and that point of view is obsolete... tell me again how Trump got elected?

Reminds me of Looney Tunes characters Spike and Chester.


victor809
7 years ago

Okay, now that was funny.

And if the world has passed by... and that point of view is obsolete... tell me again how Trump got elected?


MACS wrote:



technically, trump was elected by a minority....so spey's not really wrong there.
MACS
7 years ago

technically, trump was elected by a minority....so spey's not really wrong there.

victor809 wrote:



He won. Whether it was by plus 3 mil or minus 3 mil, the viewpoint is far from "obsolete". If it was even close to obsolete, there is no way he would have won. So... "technically" he is 100% wrong.
victor809
7 years ago

He won. Whether it was by plus 3 mil or minus 3 mil, the viewpoint is far from "obsolete". If it was even close to obsolete, there is no way he would have won. So... "technically" he is 100% wrong.

MACS wrote:




Hang on.... rewriting
victor809
7 years ago
Obsolete has nothing to do with numbers. And as such, wouldn't impact a presidential election.

Minority/majority has to do with numbers.

Obsolete has to do with value. You may have a factory full of obsolete equipment. It is there. there's lots of it. but it's not adding any value. Spey finds the view obsolete. Your response is that Trump won. That just means the minority of people who voted for trump don't find it obsolete. It's still a minority... and spey can still consider the view obsolete.



ZRX1200
7 years ago
What’s funny MACS is I almost posted Spike and Chester too!
frankj1
7 years ago
is there a political side not opposed to sexual harassment/assault?

now that more facts have emerged, I'm unclear on the political line on this op/issue.
I get disagreement on opinions of the "Dean", but is there really an argument against students who would not want to have him as their House counselor? I imagine there are a number of conservative students in the dorm as well as liberal students, and I imagine they likely agree on being against sexual harassment/assault...I just don't see politics as the divider here.
Gene363
7 years ago

is there a political side not opposed to sexual harassment/assault?

now that more facts have emerged, I'm unclear on the political line on this op/issue.
I get disagreement on opinions of the "Dean", but is there really an argument against students who would not want to have him as their House counselor? I imagine there are a number of conservative students in the dorm as well as liberal students, and I imagine they likely agree on being against sexual harassment/assault...I just don't see politics as the divider here.

frankj1 wrote:




Abuse of power, an apolitical problem.
Speyside
7 years ago
Captain obvious, your point of view in the world today is obsolete. No one thought Trump was the monster he has proven to be. His victory was more a vote against Hillary and the establishment, less a vote for Trump. Now you and the other Dinosaurs only have you alt right news sources to feel good about. Even FOX is beginning to call him out. His loss in 2020 will be a vote against Trump. Look around you, the country is changing. Your point of view becomes more obsolete by the day. Someone points out there are no longer bibles in hotel rooms, in a manner that strikes me as maudlin. Think there could be a reason bibles being obsolete in hotels? Like most people don't need a book of fairy tales to comfort them. Glad you have a safe place to go to and work up your hilarious diatribes snowflake. Your entertainment value really is priceless. Perhaps you can entertain us with more alt right type fairy tales.
RMAN4443
7 years ago

Obsolete has nothing to do with numbers. And as such, wouldn't impact a presidential election.

Minority/majority has to do with numbers.

Obsolete has to do with value. You may have a factory full of obsolete equipment. It is there. there's lots of it. but it's not adding any value. Spey finds the view obsolete. Your response is that Trump won. That just means the minority of people who voted for trump don't find it obsolete. It's still a minority... and spey can still consider the view obsolete.



victor Clavin wrote:


Didn't Trump win the election with a MAJORITY of the electoral votes? Which according to the Constitution is the determining factor...:-k I used the breakdown issued by the Clinton News Network...

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/president 
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